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Okay. So, it's not illegal under the cba.

Bosa is free to get a job anywhere he wants. With 1 caveat: If it's another nfl job, he'll have to wait a year.

He can do anything he wants, outside of joining another nfl team.

I would seriously offer one of next year's 1sts to them right now.

Then, give him a contract that gets him in and work him into the lineup. Even if he is a few weeks behind, he'll get up to speed fast enough - it's just football.

I thought I read that the Chargers can't trade him until he signs a contract... and that deadline has passed.

I don't understand how a team will select a guy that high in the draft and then insist on offset language. They believe in him enough to spend that draft pick on him, so....

And in response to earlier in the thread, SD "fans" are obnoxious. They're super fair weather. They have second teams. Part of it is that there are so many transplants, and those fans keep their teams, but still. Charger fans are weak.

I seem to remember it being past the point the Chargers can trade the pick.

A few posts had me truned in Bozas favor. Now, it looks as if he is way too concerned with the payday over playing football. It's not like SD is offering him chump change.

Let him sit out. He won't get anywhere near what he is being offered today.


Either way, I am glad we didn't draft the guy. I think this a case where Dad and Uncle Buck are screwing where they don't need to be screwing.

Yeah, all athletes are dumb?

Btw.......what's your degree in? Creating stupid threads?

IIRC they can't trade him anymore ... he either signs or sits out the year and goes back to the draft

You seem like a nice guy, but your football takes are so whacked. I thought you were an educator? How are you not able to comprehend the written word?

I remember Emmit Smith held out for a deal with the Cowboys that lasted until 2 weeks in the Regular season had been played out.
I don't remember who "won" or how the deal finalized, maybe someone remembers better, but if I had to recall, I think the end was about the same as it would have been if he'd / they'd agreed a while earlier.

And Emmit Smith was a proven NFL commodity, even a star running back at that time.

I'm kinda glad that every once in a while a player stands up, .. ya know, if you don't buy the cow you can't get the milk for free, or something.

I hope he has the ability to sit out. The Chargers suck as an organization.

Let's say he sits out ... when is he picked next year? Still top 5?

No idea. Too early to tell.

Come on....no one will touch him until the 2nd round tops....maybe late first, but then it could be 5th round.


I feel for the fans...

I disagree w/that. SD is a bad organization. They are the one in the wrong.

And really the guy brought it on himself.He should had been signed in by now.

Ok.....either way, I think he is getting bad advice.

It may be that SD is a badly run team, but I also think this kids advisors don't know the score.


He's not going to get more money next year to re-enter the draft.



Either way, I am glad this isn't us.....I know you agree with that.

Again, I disagree. I hope that he has the resources to actually make a stand. Most guys are not capable of standing up to unfair practices by the team. The Mannings did several years ago when Archie would not allow Eli to play for SD.

I hope Bosa can stand up to SD's BS!

I don't think they're allowed to do a combine again. So he might fall, but he won't drop pass the Patriots. I do know that.

Can't fall....comes from money, Dad played pro ball, grandfather in MOB Chicago...goes to raves, out of football year, probably spend it at church and working out....get real, he could get into drugs/alcohol, raised in Ft. Lauderdale - no parties there....does he REALLY love football....maybe...he's been suspended in college, kicked out of game for targeting...he's great....MAYBE...and his value goes up after year out of football playing....not...reminds me of a Buckeye named Maurice.....GO Browns!!!!

Food for thought.

Yep.

I have been as outspoken as anyone on these boards as far as my great dislike of offset language. I think that no bust player should get paid twice for failing with the team that drafted him.

However, San Diego now wants that language, which has worked its way into so many rookie deals ..... and also language that schedules his signing bonus over the life of his deal, instead of giving it all to him at once. (at least as I understand it)

He has said that he will either one or the other, but not both.

I cannot remember seeing another high draft pick being asked to include both things in his deal.

If it was just offset, then I would say that Bosa was at fault. However, his willingness to include one or the other, like almost every contract of almost every similar contract I can remember, leads me to believe that this is Chargers, and not players. (as the article suggests)

I also remember hos the Chargers treated their all-world Safety, Eric Weddle, last year. You would think that he had been a bum for them. I think that gets around quite quickly, among players, especially when they fined him $10,000 for staying on the field for a few minutes to watch his daughter perform at halftime. (and they were up by 3 TD at the time)

They chased him out of town once the season ended, saying all kinds of stuff about him ..... and chased off their All Pro FS, and let him run straight to the Ravens.

I don't think much of the Chargers organization. I think that LA probably would deserve them.

Why would the Chargers, who are extremely poorly run, want to give a guy the same contract that everyone else in his position has gotten? They should make him look bad in the press, that'll fix everything!

Vers...at times you seem like you may know your x's and o's but, it's increasingly obvious you have an agenda when you log into this forum. You don't care about talking football you just look for arguments to pick and or to insult people. A lot of times you really do seem more like the kids you once taught than an adult. Not sure how you could have been their mentor.

There are a lot of Charger fans who are first and foremost Charger fans and are not weak or disloyal. But this area has a lot of imports (me included) who support other teams as well. Sometimes you just follow the team you grew up with and it is impossible to break that bond. No matter how pathetic the Browns may be.

The politics of San Diego is part of the problem. The costs are also higher because of structural requirements as earthquakes are a possibility. California ego as well, as the development involves areas that are in the most expensive areas of town for that blimp photo during December.

No problem, and I don't totally disagree with your position.

As for being able to stand up and wait it out, in many cases the agent will help the guy....

I don't know much about the SD organization or about the specifics, but this has gone too far.

Listening to ESPN radio, Mark Domenik said he expects it to get done within the next 3 days. We'll see.

I'll rescind the "nice guy" comment.

Look, all you have to do is actually read to see who is at fault between Bosa and SD. It's not that hard to figure out.

NRTU,

Ok, based on precedents for top 3 picks, Bosa is in the right. No top 3 pick, since the new CBA, has had both a deferred bonus AND the offset language. SD's take is that they have never had to do this with a pick since the new CBA, but they have not had a top 10 pick in that timeframe, either. So, apples to oranges.

So, I agree w Bosa in principle. But I think he needs to sign, with the message that he is doing so for his teammates and the SD fans. And then move on when the contract is over, do not entertain an extension or re-signing with them. Him sitting out the year will not help him in the long run, sending the message only does so much.

Of course, him signing might set a new precedent, one the union may not want.

Contract time is his time to take care of Himself. He needs to look out for #1 because nobody else will.

Dear Bosa, ask for a sign-&-trade to CLE

I think it's funny that LT has said Bosa should sign, but he himself had a 30-day holdout when he was a rookie with the same organization.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/11/tomlinson-puts-heat-on-bosa-too/

LOL There you go,, Bosa for Gordon, straight up!

As if!

We will give you K'Wuan Williams, Justin Gilbert, Mingo and Danny Shelton SD!

I'm changing sides, I believe, from what I've gathered, the issue is mainly on behalf of SD and their staff. YTownBrownsFan made a great point in which they treated Eric Weddle, especially the incident with Weddle and his daughter, just proves it.

Yea, I was kind of neutral in the beginning but SD is looking real bad as this thing drags out.

Unfortunately they have Bosa over a barrel and they know it. If Bosa takes this to conclusion, and sits out the year, he will have lost 1 full year of salary, which is huge, he will also likely fall significantly in the draft next year. Almost no chance he goes #3 with a fresh new crop of guys and nobody has seen Bosa take a snap in well over a year, which will cost him significantly more money in signing bonus and initial contract.. and all of this money he can never get back.

And in the end, his fight will not be for some "greater good".. most teams are already doing it the right way, the only thing he could hope to change is the SD Chargers, which history says is not going to happen...

I know he has to look out for #1 at this point.. but if he wants to do that, the best thing he can do is sign the deal, get into camp, prove himself, and get out as soon as he is able.

Here is an article about the story you mentioned regarding Weddle, his daughter, and the Chargers. There is other information in there that tells you all you need to know about the Charger's organization.

shady as hell.

LOL....yeah.

Yep, there was more to it than just the daughter ordeal, which was just total bs.

Three time pro bowler, led the team with tackles five years outta the nine he was there, I can't recall any issues/off field or on and just a great safety and player... dumped with the middle finger in the air on full display.

Having little knowledge about that team, it's becoming clear that organization isn't... well you finish the sentence.

Couldn't fit him on the plane? LOL.

I know.........right!

Yeah .... that's just low.