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Geesh


Seriously.

I posted comments that I heard on the radio. I didn't add my opinion. I simply posted what I had HEARD!!!!

You are the ONE who challenged that. Not sure why YOU are getting exasperated.

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Geesh


Seriously.

I posted comments that I heard on the radio. I didn't add my opinion. I simply posted what I had HEARD!!!!


You got a link?

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LOL................yes, but it's the missing link.

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They did say that the big TE, what's his name---Connor Hamlet or something is looking pretty good.


Connor Hamlett did well on the practice squad previously.

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Like everyone else, I know nothing on this Connor guy other than supposedly he's catching everything thrown his way.

Bibbs might get the back seat again. Ps, he's #89 so watch out for him in tonight's game.

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'Browns receiver Rannell Hall out for season with broken fibula'

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By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com on August 13, 2016 at 3:51 PM, updated August 13, 2016 at 3:54 PM

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns receiver Ranell Hall, a first-year player from Central Florida, will be out for the season with a fractured fibula suffered in Friday night's 17-11 loss to the Packers.

Hall (6-0, 200) suffered the injury during the third quarter after catching a 19-yard pass over the middle from Austin Davis.

It was a costly drive, what with Davis suffering a concussion three plays later after a 6-yard scramble up the middle. Hall caught two passes in the game for 27 yards. He got more playing time than he might have with Corey Coleman and Andrew Hawkins both sidelined with hamstrings.

Originally signed by the Bucs in 2015 out of Central Florida, Hall was signed off the Bucs practice squad on Dec. 14th and appeared in one game. With four receivers drafted this year, Hall was on the bubble to make the final roster, but would have been eligible for the practice squad.

Davis will most likely sit out Thursday night's preseason game against the Falcons, leaving the Browns with only three quarterbacks. In Green Bay, he played as the third-team quarterback ahead of Cody Kessler, who made two mistakes that resulted in safeties. Once, he got confused about the extra line around the field and threw it after rolling out of bounds in the back of the end zone.

If Davis' concussion lingers, the Browns might have to add another camp arm.

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So hall goes to IR and will get to be at camp next year. Davis down for the week, he will be odd man out anyway.

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Davis down for the week, he will be odd man out anyway.


I know that the fans want to keep Kessler over Davis, but I am not sure if that is the best move. RGIII has an injury history and came up gimpy after each hit last night. He looks fragile. McCown was injured quite a bit last year and is another year older. Add in the fact that the OL will be worse and the team really has to consider if they want to play a significant number of games w/Kessler as their starter.

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I guess it depends on who you think better.


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Davis down for the week, he will be odd man out anyway.


I know that the fans want to keep Kessler over Davis, but I am not sure if that is the best move. RGIII has an injury history and came up gimpy after each hit last night. He looks fragile. McCown was injured quite a bit last year and is another year older. Add in the fact that the OL will be worse and the team really has to consider if they want to play a significant number of games w/Kessler as their starter.


I see the thinking here but,for what it's worth my 2 cents are: we know what we have with Davis and lets be honest...he's not brilliant. If he was Dallas would have shown interest in Austin rather than McCown. We also have no clue what we have with Kessler. I don't think it's fair to judge the kid on his performance in his first pre-season game. Even vets had jitters and made mistakes last night. Also, he only played a 1.5 quarters (if that). Yes, he was shaky but, he can hopefully learn from it and improve. Can Davis improve? Perhaps, but so far in his career he has proven otherwise.

Because of Davis' concussion I wonder if we bring somebody else in and if so I hope it isn't the return of Thad Lewis!

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Davis down for the week, he will be odd man out anyway.


I know that the fans want to keep Kessler over Davis, but I am not sure if that is the best move. RGIII has an injury history and came up gimpy after each hit last night. He looks fragile. McCown was injured quite a bit last year and is another year older. Add in the fact that the OL will be worse and the team really has to consider if they want to play a significant number of games w/Kessler as their starter.


I see the thinking here but,for what it's worth my 2 cents are: we know what we have with Davis and lets be honest...he's not brilliant. If he was Dallas would have shown interest in Austin rather than McCown. We also have no clue what we have with Kessler. I don't think it's fair to judge the kid on his performance in his first pre-season game. Even vets had jitters and made mistakes last night. Also, he only played a 1.5 quarters (if that). Yes, he was shaky but, he can hopefully learn from it and improve. Can Davis improve? Perhaps, but so far in his career he has proven otherwise.

Because of Davis' concussion I wonder if we bring somebody else in and if so I hope it isn't the return of Thad Lewis!


With Josh giving up reps to get RG3 more, I'd pass and bring in more OL if Davis isn't right by next weekend.

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...Cody Kessler, who made two mistakes that resulted in safeties. Once, he got confused about the extra line around the field and threw it after rolling out of bounds in the back of the end zone.

That double line confused me too. Typically that space between the end line and the second line is filled-in white. It's hard to imagine he didn't know the layout but it was odd. Also, not making excuses but it will be interpreted as that, it' tough for a rookie making his first game experience standing in the end zone. Still, a couple of bad mental mistakes. The second one he held onto the ball too long as he learned how much faster the NFL game is, and it ain't even a real game yet.

Tough break for Hall.


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It was a tough break, especially given that the coaches obviously saw something they liked .. he was a focal point Friday


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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Davis down for the week, he will be odd man out anyway.


I know that the fans want to keep Kessler over Davis, but I am not sure if that is the best move. RGIII has an injury history and came up gimpy after each hit last night. He looks fragile. McCown was injured quite a bit last year and is another year older. Add in the fact that the OL will be worse and the team really has to consider if they want to play a significant number of games w/Kessler as their starter.


Here is what I would prefer:

Kessler on the practice squad the entire year this year.
RG3 and McCown on the gameday active roster
Davis inactive on gameday unless someone gets hurt
Pryor as emergency QB if two guys happen to go down in the same game.

That still gives us plenty of roster stability and keeps us 4 deep at QB and 5 if you count Pryor.

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That is what I would prefer, too. I just didn't know if Kessler would be "safe" on the practice squad.

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Yea, Kessler would get picked up by someone if we put him on the PS.

We don't need Davis. He is not the future. He will be let go.


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I am not a Kessler fan, so I wouldn't care. But if we were that worried, we could keep him inactive on gameday as well. I don't think that the 53rd spot on the current roster is that valuable that we couldn't protect a 4th QB.

Or even better he could suddenly come down with a mysterious injury.

Cody Kessler is put on IR for the season diagnosed with a case of stultus novum iaculari?
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This could be a real fun group to watch .. In 2 or 3 years it could be a bust group or it could be special .. Hopefully these guys are good and we can coach them up ..

Prior looks to have some skills ... And he has a few things U can't teach .. He's HUGE .. A big boy and a GREAT ATHELETE for his size ... He seems to be adapting well to WR ..

Will be interesting to see where this goes .. Plenty of work to do but definetly some major upside ..

Haven't seen Coleman yet .. Sounds like he has some mad skills that can't be taught .. If that's so he should be fun to watch grow and hopefully be a play maker for us for years to come ..

Again .. They could also turn out to be bums .. But there's also some reason for optimism here ..

So if only one of the other hits .. We're in good shape ... And then if by some miracle .. Naaaa .. Not sense even going there ...

Anyhow .. There's reason for some optimism with this group . LONG WAYS TO GO and there a few years away .. Let's hope they got the talent, work ethic and coaches to lead them ..

As far as the QB'S ..

This is a re-build .. So let's RE-BUILD ....

RG3
Kessler

Trade McCown ... It's gonna happen when there's an injury .. Maybe even to Dallas sooner rather than later .. Cut Davis .. Chances are he'll be available when RG3 goes down .. If not, pick someone else up ..




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LOL.........that was funny while making a good point.

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Diam the best thing about Pryor you forgot to mention: He's putting the work in. That's a huge deal to me. We've seen and heard guys all the time being lazy. Pryor is busting his behind to make it work.

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I had to like that because it was funny.


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I am pretty excited about the potential in our receiving options. Duke, Coleman, Pryor, Gordon, Barnidge could really be a fun group and then you add the monster target in Hamlett, Hollywood filling that true route runner dependable guy and even Coleman islooking a lot better in disguising what he is doing.

Now do we have anyone that can get them the ball? Based on Friday I would say doubtful but we will see.

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Now do we have anyone that can get them the ball? Based on Friday I would say doubtful but we will see.


Up to the oline..


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Now do we have anyone that can get them the ball? Based on Friday I would say doubtful but we will see.


Up to the oline..


Exactly. RGIII has a beautiful long ball and etc. No Qb will excel with pressure in their face almost right after the snap.

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I'd say that if we can come away from this season satisfied with our WR corps, satisfied with who we have at RB, and generally content with our OLine, then regardless of our record, the season is a victory.


Browns is the Browns

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
I'd say that if we can come away from this season satisfied with our WR corps, satisfied with who we have at RB, and generally content with our OLine, then regardless of our record, the season is a victory.



I expect some new faces on the oline after next years draft.. This year is really patch work.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
I'd say that if we can come away from this season satisfied with our WR corps, satisfied with who we have at RB, and generally content with our OLine, then regardless of our record, the season is a victory.



For me ,,, our record will have NOTHING to do with weather we had a good year or not ..




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This year's OL looks a lot like the OL on most teams. We might even he more heavily invested than most.

We have a 1st round LT, a 2nd round LG, and a 1st round C. That is a lot of investment in the OL. This team needs more weapons, on both sides of the ball.

As far as RG3, they have to find a way to buy him more time than most QBs might require. It appears that, like McCown, he is slower reading a defense than most QBs. He can move, so that may help .... but he is not going to be a QB who can drop back and have scanned the whole field by the time his back foot hits the end of his drop. I suspect that Hue will give him many plays with reads on one side of the field, or the other ..... but not a lot of full progressions.


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The problem is that our first round center might be doo doo.

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Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
I am not a Kessler fan, so I wouldn't care. But if we were that worried, we could keep him inactive on gameday as well. I don't think that the 53rd spot on the current roster is that valuable that we couldn't protect a 4th QB.

Or even better he could suddenly come down with a mysterious injury.

Cody Kessler is put on IR for the season diagnosed with a case of stultus novum iaculari?
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hahaha that was truly funny... I just had to push the button


I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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The problem is that our first round center might be doo doo.


That definitely is a problem.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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The problem is that our first round center might be doo doo.


But our 3rd string center comes from good breeding stock wink


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
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The problem is that our first round center might be doo doo.


But our 3rd string center comes from good breeding stock wink


Maybe we can mix their DNA and get an average center outta it? Lol

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This question has me stumped. Who is the 5th best wide receiver on the Browns right now?

Just assuming nobody gets suspended, and nobody is using any perf. enhance. drugs. and assuming everyone is 100% healthy.

Who is the 5th best Wr on this team?

Is Pryor better than Gabriel or Hawkins, Is Coleman better or worse than any of them.
Is Gordon as good as his good year, or as mediocre as his shortened year.
Do any of the 3 late round picks make the top 5, and what about
What about the UDFA's and guys who almost made the team last year, namely Darius Jennings or Marlon Moore, do either of them make the top 5 wide receivers.

Who is the 5th best Wr on this team.

Just leave Duke Johnson,RB, and Gary Barnidge,TE, out of the box because they're technically a different position.


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Coleman
Pryor
Hawkins
Higgins
Payton
Moore


then Gordon replaces Moore after suspension maybe


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Well I'd have

Coleman, Pryor, Gordon, and Hawkins, in some sort of order as the top 4, I just don't know who to put in at #5.

You've got Gordon at 6 after week 4, again I'm going on a no suspensions, everyone 100% healthy.

Maybe I'm forgetting somebody.
Ricardo Louis,.


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Higgins and Payton as rookies?


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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meaning maybe you forgot about them


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Here's a thought... I'm not sure Hawkins makes the team.

We have some very talented looking rookies behind him that will get snagged off the PS. Hawkins is older and not perfect by any means. Just a thought so don't crucify me.

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The 2016 Browns, the team about to start regular season games, Higgans and Payton are rookies.

( I think Hawkins started all of last year, and if he wasn't going to make the team if healthy, he'd have been cut when cut Hartline, or that time frame.

well, Higgans is getting time in the 1st two pre season games.

I was thinking only two of Payton, Higgans, and Louis, makes the team, but now I'm not sure if it's more than one.

If Taylor Gabriel is #5 and say maybe one of the 3 first round rookies after Coleman, is #6, then the other two rookies might not have a roster spot.
It's really hard to gather where they stand about the 5th wideout down.


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