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There's also the sexual harassment case against Bannon, too.

Sure it's about as beautiful as Anne Ramsay




If you want to teach them critical thinking then have them take a course on critical thinking. NOT MATH and if your going to teach them math then teach them math not critical thinking.

I can understand his argument if he's taking this approach: Most kids don't care about math. Most kids only take certain low level math and that's it. Once kids graduate they rarely use the math they were taught in school. However, if you can teach the concept and ideologies which help develop critical thinking, you WILL use that. As a developing child, knowing HOW to do something is more important than just getting a result.

Sure lets teach them to use the calculator to do their math too and allow them to use it in class..... oh wait we already do that. It's why we have all the dummies working that can't even make change for a dollar.

Who are Trumps advisors again?



In his defense, after he got ripped to hell he posted this an hour later:

It's gonna be an interesting first few months for whoever ends up elected. Just a criminology tidbit. Violent crimes are at their peak during the winter. It's because people don't like being trapped inside their homes and tensions build up. They actually lessen during the Summer when people can get some fresh air and enjoy nice weather.

I'm scared to imagine what Chicago is going to be like in December and January. When Obama is out of office he really needs to return to Chicago and be prepared to de-escalate what's going to be a bloodbath.

The fix to inner-city crime is acknowledging an uneven economic playing field. Swish, Lurker, and others chronicled their experiences. Luck plays a huge part in anyone escaping that situation.

Good luck getting politicians, even basic human beings, to find enough empathy to swallow the actual reality of inner-city life.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/creeping_sharia_in_health_care_.html

Think health care costs are outrageous now. Think before you vote. This is coming to the good ol' USA.

Racist garbage! You could plug in Christian for every time the word Muslim was used and it would ring just as true. Or Amish.

There is one thing I would like to point out that WILL bring Sharia to the good ole US... The Muslim Manifesto that more or less says: Peacefully turn the world Muslim from the inside. Get into government, get into communities, spread the words of the prophet.

And it sounds eerily similar to exactly what Christians do...

I don't care when he wrote it, Wades cousin getting shot has no bearing on anyone voting for or against him.. Not a damn thing.

You pointed out he got ripped to hell then an hour later he wrote that.. Not sure that's how it happened, but I'll take your word for it. That is, in a nutshell why Trump can't become president. He doesn't have the attitude.

I don't often agree with Hillary, but she was absolutely correct when she said you can Bait Trump with a Tweet...

The president of the US has to have a thicker skin that that.

But that's JMO

"Muslim" is a race?


Anyway, it does seem odd. You know, how we're starting to go out of our way to accommodate Islam and Muslims, while at the same time attacking Christianity in this country.

But........this will be a thread killer/instigator.

We should let go of the xenophobia.

How can there be a war on Christianity when it remains the dominant religion in this country? I've never understood the "War on Christmas" narrative, either.

You find it odd that one of the board's few Atheist points out the hypocrisies in religion? At the end of the day we are all human suffering the human condition; no religion changes that fact.

And yes racism fits in this circumstance because we have had converted black and white muslims in the US for a long long time and these smear campaigns of fear mongering were never carried out against them; but enter the middle eastern Muslims into the equation and the bigotry rises tremendously. So that IS racism.

But you are right in that religion does not equal race therefore racism does not apply in situations of bigotry towards a particular religion, in these instances it would be called religious bigotry, or sectarianism.

It's eerily similar to the cries of reverse racism. The poor poor white guy can't catch a break... I'm white and not doing so good, but at least I know the only people to blame other than myself are those who have rigged the system. AND GEORGE BUSH, I HATE THAT GUY FOR WHAT HE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO THE ECONOMY!

Fairly certain I didn't say anything about a "war" on Christians, or Christianity. If I did, please highlight that post.

Thanks in advance.

Here ya go:



Attacking being the key word which he translated to war. Easy to understand.

There we go.

A "attack" on Christianity would imply that y'all are being hunted down like dogs for your faith here in America.

Seeing as both conservatives and liberals make up the 70% of people who identify as Christians in this country, as well as every president in history, I find that nothing more than baseless fear mongering.

Anyway, Cjrae's article is pretty disturbing. Especially the fact that she really believes it. But is anybody really surprised? This is a person educating our kids, folks. A teacher who thinks Muslim is a race.

But ok.

Well, since you put it that way, ok. But "ya'll" think blacks are being hunted down like dogs. And that isn't the case either.



Cool.

Seeing as muslims make up......what, 5%? Maybe less? They certainly seem to be getting their way an awful lot. Even jails/prisons are somehow supposed to bow down their (muslim) rules on food.

That's cool.



And you know what swish?

You take a damn broad liberty in assuming you know what the other person is saying. In fact, I'd go as far as to say as you put words in others mouths.

CJ never called muslims a "race". Your buddy Oldcold did.

Look back. Check it out. Oldcold called muslims a race.

You saying Cj called muslims a "race"? Pathetic.

You do it a lot - putting words in others mouths, or attributing things said to people that didn't say them.

actually, that brings up an interesting observation.

ya know, most of everything we talk about is an opinion with some facts for back up.

however, there are things people mention on this board that is fact...like..no debating it.

for example: Islam is not a race. Christianity isn't a race. Fact.

Hillary and Trump are liars. again, fact.

the sky is blue.....ok, i know the science nerds are gonna be like "well its because some particulars in the air spread blue rays faster than red rays from the sun"

but...to the naked eye. the sky is blue. fact.

i thought that was common sense. apparently not, as this isn't the first time that this has had to be addressed on this board.

here's the sad part: you can tell who really reads post on here. The fact that we still have posters who view muslims as a race of people tells me that what Newt Gingrich said is true:

"i'll go with how people feel"

so i ask the board. when people can't even acknowledge basic facts, how are we suppose to get anything done in this country?

You tell me.

You can't even attribute the fact oldcold was the one that called muslims a "race".

So how the heck do you get off preaching to others about reading posts?

well, i'll take the non emotional route.

you should actually read the link Cjrae posted.

the author refers to muslims and arabic speaking constantly, implying that they are different from others.

hey Arch, did you know that there are other muslims not in the middle east?

and i'm not only talking about Cjrae, i'm talking about the entire situation as a whole in this country. Cjrae posted the article, so it's why i refer to her.

also, from Cjrae link:

"And therein lies the rub with Muslim doctors, as with all Muslims. If they are good Muslims and follow the teachings of the Quran, their values will necessarily be in direct conflict with our own."

All muslims, bro. now think about Cjrae's past comments on islam.

i didn't put words in her mouth. she says it-and supports people with those views-all on her own.

it's funny how you will try and step up to my comments but won't say anything toward Cjrae about her views.

so that also leads me to conclude that

A. you agree with Cjrae's views on islam since you never say anything about her.
B. you just dislike me(i understand, i feel the same way about you), or
C. all of the above.


edit: also, if she, and this author, doesn't think muslim is a race, then (from her own link):

"And when Muslims do access health care, special demands may be made as when a Muslima in New Jersey went to an emergency room complaining of chest pain and insisted on a female (corrected) technician after she was told she’d need an electrocardiogram. No male technician was available and she was informed of her options. She decided to sit and wait. After several hours her husband requested she be transferred to a different hospital. The couple then sued, claiming the Patient’s Bill of Rights entitled the Muslima to her demands."

what's a muslima? i never heard anybody i know who is muslim say that, here or in the middle east. and the only think i'm aware of a muslima is a clothing brand. some people use muslima in europe to refer to women, but it isn't common whatsoever.

muslima? sounds like a made up race. actually, sounds a lot like a race, seeing as the author of this article can't even use it in their own context on a consistent basis

Nah, dude. You dislike me.

If I told you the sky was blue, you'd try to tell me I'm wrong. The dislike is on you.

Furthermore, you continue to blame cj for calling muslims a "race", when it was in fact oldcold that did it. Hey, the posts are there for anyone and everyone to read.

Oh, I did read cj's link. Top to bottom, twice - wondering if I missed where the author of the post called muslims a race. I didn't see it anywhere. If it's there, can you highlight it for me?

Or would that prove too tough to do.


I could highlight oldcold calling muslims a race, if you'd like.

As for the author of the link cj posted referring to muslims, well, uh, it WAS a post about how muslims are expecting different treatment, wasn't it?

Where was race mentioned?

And as for your other crap about me:

I wasn't aware cj was a she. I guess I don't keep track of who's male and who's female, who's black and who's white.

Again, the issue here isn't me - it's you and your dislike of me. (see your parenthesized quote about me. Or, the other posts where you "despise" me, or you'd knock me out if we ever met, etc).

No, the issue here is you are attributing to cj what oldcold said. And your refusal to admit it, while it's there in orange and brown, is sad.

i just gave you a whole break down of the article, on the parts where the author used it as a race based confirmation with only referring to arabic people. with quotes and all.

you didn't post the last part in your response. how come?

Edit: man I keep making edits cause this topic is stupid.

Hey, is their a special word for Christian women? I honestly don't know

I just explained to you. Reading is good. Reading and understanding is even better.

NO WHERE in the article was "race" brought up. NO WHERE.

Oldcold brought that into it. Go back to my first post where I asked oldcold about "Muslim is a race?"

Plus, I read the whole article, twice. The author did no such thing as you claim - "author used it as a race based confirmation...."

It's not there.

Muslim is not a race. Christian is not a race. For you to take what oldcold said and attribute it to someone else is just foolish.

And you hate me. That's cool. You say it all the time.

Not that I'm aware of.

Why? Would that be a race thing?

Race wasn't brought up?

"in Illinois proposed a “Muslim-centric” medical facility replete with many of the features noted above as well as Arabic-speaking staff, private rooms to ensure a Muslim standard of modesty, and space for ritual foot baths. The state rejected the plan but it was resubmitted without any references to sharia law."

I'm trying to be a nice person here, so I'm going to leave you to research who speaks Arabic.

Here's another nice one:

"In addition to Muslim males becoming enraged if a male health care provider attends to their wife, there other things that may set them off."

Man this article is full of gems. I might send this to my family so they can see how some Americans view them. Should be great dialogue involving laughter.

So Muslim makes are that violent huh? Is it the African Muslims, Arab Muslim, phillipno mulsims....

Or just Muslims? I didn't know violence was an inherent trait in Islam. I guess the same can be said for Christianity.

But my bad, what was I thinking? How can somebody have an inherent trait in a religion?

Ah, you finally get it.??

Here, YOU listed race/nationality. Not cj. And, Oldcold was the one that brought up race.



I wasn't aware of that. Yup, some muslims ARE about violence. Those are the knothead extremists. Some supposed Christians are violent. Those people are also knotheads.

What's your point?


Weird, I was thinking the same thing. The article doesn't mention race, it mentions religion. cj didn't mention race.

Oldcold brought race into it, and attributed it to someone that never mentioned it.

And you jumped right in, attacking. Even though the person you started off attacking wasn't the person that said what you attacked about.


It's very simple swish.

I attacked Cjrae because she posted the article.

Again, I would understand if the author tried to separate the different races.

But he didn't. You need to understand something. I'm trying my ass off to see from your eyes how the author didn't mention Muslims as a race.

But the quotes I'm posting are damning. The author is limping all Muslims and Arab speaking nations together. They are one in the same to the author.

And Cjrae's agrees with this article.

1 + 1 equals 2 bro.

We truly must stop the labeling of others who we know nothing about in the name of democrats.

Muslim isn't a race. Period.

oldcold is the one that mentioned race. Period.


You can pull all the quotes you want. Race wasn't mentioned, Muslim, and islam, was mentioned. Period.

What you're trying to do is akin to taking an article about christians (or oldcold) and saying it's the race.

What damn race? There's no race in islam/muslimhood, just as there's no race in Christianity.

Drop it. Oldcold brought race into it, I called him on it, he/she hasn't replied. But you go all out over cj for posting an article, that doesn't mention race? You just "interpret" race over the muslim terms? Here's a clue - there's white muslims.


Come on man, you're better than this, aren't you?

Better than what?

At this point in the discussion I'm talking directly about the article. You're not addressing the article and going back to OCD.

Here's my point on that. I have OCD's back, whether he wants it or not. That's my boy.

Cjrae didn't mention race. I already know that.

However, the article she posted is my beef. And that's where the discussion of race is coming into play. Cjrae's comment on her link shows she believes this BS in the article.

The author lumps all Arabic speaking nations and Muslims together as violent. This is where race comes into play. Arabs speak what language again? Yet he implies that all Muslims speak Arabic. . He then says "all Muslim".

Then he says Muslim men are violent, with NO distinction of which races, just all Muslim men, as if violence is a biological trait amongst Muslim men.

So, do you agree with the article or not?

If not, why check me and not Cjrae on her post?

Discussion over.

Race was brought in by oldcold...........yet you attack cj.

Done.

I know you have oldcolds back. But, sometimes, when you attack someone that didn't even mention what your buddy brought up, it's best to either stop, or just say "hey, my bad." Instead of twisting and turning and trying to say the article brought up "muslim" as a race.

You got your buddy's back. Cool. Your buddy was wrong.

Discussion over?the discussion is over when this thread gets locked.

How about her obvious love for the author who does imply race?

So you aren't gonna address the article. Ya know, the whole thing that blew this discussion up?

Whack.

Dude, you don't get it. Sadly, I don't think you will.

She posted (is it a she? or a he?) an article.

He/she loves the author simply because it was posted?

I addressed the article. However, in your rage, you saw oldcold post about race, and instantly everything, for you, became "race".

You have a race chip on your shoulder. No, rather, you have a bag of chips on your shoulder, and sadly, it's blinding you.

It's tough discussing things with someone that sees race even where race doesn't exist.

One more time: oldcold brought race into it, even though race wasn't mentioned in the article at all.

But, here comes swish.

Your refusal to admit cj didn't mention race at all is the problem.

Seriously.

I'm not raging.

I'm just wondering why you can't address the article. I've address your accusations. But you won't address my questions. I showed how it does imply race but you won't directly refute those points.

Is this something I can expect in the future? Are you already set in your ways, or does that happen after a certain age?

Yes, I just took a friendly shot at pretty much everyone on EE.

The article does not imply race. UNLESS you are racist and think only middle eastern people are muslims.

See, I don't think that. I guess you do?

Bottom line, oldcold brought race into it. In your love of him/her and your "I got his back" statements, you're missing the whole discussion.

Muslims are not a race. Islam is not a race.

Period.

Why would I think that? I'm arguing against the author, just in case you weren't aware.

Also, I dont love OCD.

But I get it. Man love must float your boat. It's ok, I still accept you for who you are bro. I treat everyone equally.