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The headline says moore is afraid the u.s. will confiscate his film..............It should've read "moore HOPES the u.s. will confiscate his film, since it would result in better sales".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070611/us_nm/moore_dc

Moore is money hungry, do whatever it takes to make money whore, in my opinion. I guarantee he's hoping the gov't. even acknowledges his latest film, for the exact reason I just mentioned - press.

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Wow, I totally thought this was about Mikey Moore from the Net's.

Until I actually clicked the link.

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My bad...........Michael moore.

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The government should tie him up and beat him to death with popsicle sticks.

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The government should tie him up and beat him to death with popsicle sticks.




Or, we can get the dorky Super Hero from those Popsicle commercials to teach him a lesson!

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I consider myself a political moderate, but I HATE MICHAEL MOORE...he earns bok


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But you know deep down,that you have a soft spot in your heart for him Arch.....................


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But you know deep down,that you have a soft spot in your heart for him Arch.....................





Well, I can see you have me pegged.

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Government takes his film then that is censorship.

Government sanctioned censorship. If that happens there is something seriously wrong with this government - aside from what is already wrong with it.

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Government takes his film then that is censorship.

Government sanctioned censorship. If that happens there is something seriously wrong with this government - aside from what is already wrong with it.


Actually, it'd be perfectly legal and I'm for it as Michael Moore is a terrorist.

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I don't share his politics but I admire this publicity stunt and say it was very smart. I wouldn't have ever known he had a movie out for me to avoid unless a month or so ago FOX News hadn't saw fit to fall prey to discuss his travel to Cuba.

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Government takes his film then that is censorship.

Government sanctioned censorship. If that happens there is something seriously wrong with this government - aside from what is already wrong with it.


Actually, it'd be perfectly legal and I'm for it as Michael Moore is a terrorist.




Michael Moore is not a terrorist.

To say that Michael Moore is a terrorist is completely biased and has no solid ground or anything to back it up. He makes documentaries - if you don't like what he says then say so. Leave it at that. Just simply state: "I do not agree with Michael Moore" - nothing more is needed.

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Soup the guy is a tool in the same vien as Anne Coultier, but a terrorist? That makes no sense. I have a feeling I know why you say that but it still makes no sense! (now since I thought words in your head tell me why you believe him to be a terrorist.)

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He can have all of his First Amendment rights,...I paid for them in more ways than he can ever imagine to be gracious enough to acknowledge.

In my opinion, the truth is he isn't really doing any of this because he actually cares about his country or society. That's what makes what he does horse manure.

I just don't watch anything he produces. That's a good enough line-in-the-sand for me.

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Government takes his film then that is censorship.

Government sanctioned censorship. If that happens there is something seriously wrong with this government - aside from what is already wrong with it.


Actually, it'd be perfectly legal and I'm for it as Michael Moore is a terrorist.




Michael Moore is not a terrorist.

To say that Michael Moore is a terrorist is completely biased and has no solid ground or anything to back it up. He makes documentaries - if you don't like what he says then say so. Leave it at that. Just simply state: "I do not agree with Michael Moore" - nothing more is needed.




Michael Moore does not make documentaries. He creates lies that he tells you is a documentary. He's a fat worthless scam artist who is a detriment to the US. He needs done away with. Nothing in Farenheit 911 was true, it was a big terrorist lie debasing our president. Bowling for Columbine, he forget to tell you that the head of the NRA has Alzheimers disease which is why he sounded so foolish. Micahel Moore spreads lies to make people fear the governing body, something I view as terrorism. Therefore that fat worthless waste of oxygen is a terrorist and I hope he chokes on a hot dog.

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Michael Moore does not make documentaries. He creates lies that he tells you is a documentary. He's a fat worthless scam artist who is a detriment to the US. He needs done away with. Nothing in Farenheit 911 was true, it was a big terrorist lie debasing our president. Bowling for Columbine, he forget to tell you that the head of the NRA has Alzheimers disease which is why he sounded so foolish. Micahel Moore spreads lies to make people fear the governing body, something I view as terrorism. Therefore that fat worthless waste of oxygen is a terrorist and I hope he chokes on a hot dog.




Alzheimer's is no excuse to go to a city with a recent tragedy (Columbine) and proclaim for everyone to hear "From my cold dead hands" he chose to go to Denver immediately after Columbine for the simple fact that Columbine occurred. If his appearance had been planned beforehand - he would have cancelled out of a sign of respect for the families that lost people. But NO!!! He insisted on still having that rally. So, everything in 9/11 was a lie. So Bush did not sit at that school for several minutes. Bush did not fly Saudis (including the some of Bin Laden's relatives) out of the US following the attacks. You are just angry and since you don't agree with him you choose to bash him. Just because you disagree with someone that isn't an excuse to sit here and make up false allegations.

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Just clicking...

I can't stand the guy for his films, but why do people always attack him by calling him fat? Over 66% of Americans are overweight or obese link. Who cares how heavy he is?

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Bush did not fly Saudis (including the some of Bin Laden's relatives) out of the US following the attacks.




I was aware of Moore's accusation of that, but I was not aware that it was a fact. Is it?

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Bush did not fly Saudis (including the some of Bin Laden's relatives) out of the US following the attacks.




I was aware of Moore's accusation of that, but I was not aware that it was a fact. Is it?




http://www.sptimes.com/2004/06/09/Tampabay/TIA_now_verifies_flig.shtml

They were flown out - though none were Bin Laden's relatives. Perhaps that was a mistake by me going from memory. Apparently one was from the Saudi Royal family though...

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Alzheimer's is no excuse to go to a city with a recent tragedy (Columbine) and proclaim for everyone to hear "From my cold dead hands" he chose to go to Denver ....




I know a guy with Alzheimer's that chose to go to Dayton....naked at 3 in the morning.


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Interesting. I'm not sure I saw Bush mentioned in the article, as you stated, but I must be missing something, right? And, I saw nothing about Bin Ladens family on the flights either, but that's neither here nor there. (even though you said they were on)

Let me see if I have this right though. Bear with me. Let's say France was attacked. And let's say it happened during Clintons administration. And let's say Chelsea Clinton was in France when all planes were grounded. Next, let's say that the u.s. gov't, called france and said "we need chelsea back here" and the french gov't said "okay". Would that make the president of France guilty?

Better yet, let's drop it. Michael Moore puts in his movies what he thinks will sell and make him money. End of story.

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Alzheimer's is no excuse to go to a city with a recent tragedy (Columbine) and proclaim for everyone to hear "From my cold dead hands" he chose to go to Denver ....




I know a guy with Alzheimer's that chose to go to Dayton....naked at 3 in the morning.




Alzheimer's is not an excuse for such a public display of the disregard of people's feelings. He doesn't even have the dignity to respect those whose family was killed - no excuse can be made for his despicable actions.

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To say that Michael Moore is a terrorist is completely biased and has no solid ground or anything to back it up. He makes documentaries




To say he makes documentaries is completely biased and has no solid ground.

If you're gonna ask others to be honest with themselves, I would hope you could do the same and label his work properly..... Propaganda Films. He's no terrorist (and I can honestly say I hate the man), but he's also not a documentary filmmaker. He makes sensationalized propaganda flicks designed to promote a specific viewpoint, attempt to lead the viewer to the conclusion he wants them to reach the entire time. He also goes over the top in much of what he does to drum up publicity (such as leaking to the media that he has supposedly stashed a copy in Canada ).

This is just a dumbass publicity stunt, most likely as a means of gauging preliminary interest in a U.S. release of the film.


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Moore and Limbaugh are two sides of the same coin...both make me laugh.

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Micahel Moore spreads lies to make people fear the governing body, something I view as terrorism.




By your standards that would make Bush a terrorist.

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So, everything in 9/11 was a lie.



No, not everything. Moore is very good at taking a kernal of truth, then fabricating a story around it and using misapplied visual images to convey a message which is totally unrelated to that truth...

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So Bush did not sit at that school for several minutes.



Yes he did. So? Would the events of the day have changed if he had raced out 5 minutes sooner?

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Bush did not fly Saudis (including the some of Bin Laden's relatives) out of the US following the attacks.



The fact that this is a non-story is pretty well documented. Refer to kernel of truth statement from above....

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You are just angry and since you don't agree with him you choose to bash him. Just because you disagree with someone that isn't an excuse to sit here and make up false allegations.



Michael Moore's false allegations are well documented. There are entire websites devoted to debunking his lies, half-truths, and inaccurate inuendo. And I'm not mad... but if your premise is to attack the government for being incompetent liars, then don't get caught in 100 lies trying to prove your point... it just doesn't look good and makes you look no better than they are. Our government screws up enough, why somebody would have to resort to lying to prove that is beyond me.


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Just because you disagree with someone that isn't an excuse to sit here and make up false allegations.






Tell that to Michael Moore.

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Moore and Limbaugh are two sides of the same coin...both make me laugh.




Two fat loud mouths who can talk 24/7 without offering a solution. And somehow they are popular spokespeople for die hard conservatives and die hard liberals in this country.

I'm so sick of this country being polarized into two flocks of frightened sheep who find safety in numbers and care more about their damn political party winning and taking power than the welfare of the country.

Not that everybody is that way. There are people of common sense caught in the middle. Too bad not enough to get any into Congress & the White House.

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He doesn't even have the dignity to respect those whose family was killed - no excuse can be made for his despicable actions.




That's what I'd say about Moore-on.

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Two fat loud mouths who can talk 24/7 without offering a solution. And somehow they are popular spokespeople for die hard conservatives and die hard liberals in this country.

I'm so sick of this country being polarized into two flocks of frightened sheep who find safety in numbers and care more about their damn political party winning and taking power than the welfare of the country.

Not that everybody is that way. There are people of common sense caught in the middle. Too bad not enough to get any into Congress & the White House.




That pretty much sums it up for me as well. I can only add that I'm tired of hearing politicians speak of their solutions rather than fulfilling their obligation to protect our Constitutional rights.

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I'm so sick of this country being polarized into two flocks of frightened sheep who find safety in numbers and care more about their damn political party winning and taking power than the welfare of the country.




That about sums it up for me.

It seems like too many politicians are on such a republican or democratic agenda that they get blinded about finding solutions to problems and just start focusing on getting thier party this vote or that one.

What ever happened to finding the best solution to a problem (no matter which party comes up with it) and fixing it.

It seems like in today's world politicains can't be pro-choice and conservative at the same time, or vice-versa.

I honeslty beleive that a majority of americans are somewhere in the middle but today's politics does not let them vote that way. Too many of us are voting for what they consider "the lesser of two evils" rather than a candidate they can honeslty support.

People like Micheal Moore and Anne Coulter are not helping matters at all.


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DC, I think your "kernal of truth" analogy is quite accurate and to the point.

IMO- If Moore so chose to,he could make a very compelling case for the inneptness of this administration based on purely accurate situations and facts. But that doesn't "sale" like the dramatic falsehoods, fabrications and half truths that he puts into docu-dramas that he calls documentaries.

And with his movies being more false based than fact based,he holds no credability to the whole of his work. He is his own worst enemy IF revealing the "truth" about this administration were actually his goal. But obviously creating publicity for his films and making wild accusations and statements to draw people to the box office in order to line his own pockets are his top priority for anyone willing to objectively look at it.

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In this case? You are your own worse enemy. Liberal and conservative don't "win" the elections on a national level. In many parts of the country,not even on the state level. Do you really believe I vote for my Gov. Sen. or Congressman based on "the president" at the time? That has nothing to do with it. So you can take Michael Moore out of that part of the process.

As for who "decides the elections",it's moderates and independant voters,not party hardliners. Do you think I'll vote Democrat because I didn't like Bush as a president? Not on your life. So what is it Moore has done "that's so bad"? BS us like almost every politician has? Like pro athletes have? Like actors,actresses and the bulk of society does? If your asserion is "propeganda" we can hold most every president we've had accountable for that to at least some extent on at least some issues.

Let me tell you something. I am a moderate. I don't like extremeism. I've seen both Bowling For Columbine and Ferinheit 9/11. I saw what they were,checked out the facts. If anything, most moderates IMO, would be far more "turned off" by those films than "turned on" by them. He is the Ann Colter of the liberals. He does more to hurt any "growth" of the liberal cause than to help it.

Getting rid of Michael Moore,would be getting rid of the best possible recruiting tool the GOP has IMO.



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Michael Moore makes most of his money from two sources... those on the far left that listen intently and believe every word he says... and those on the right who see his movies to hate on him..... I saw columbine once from Netflix.. I'm yet to see 9/11... and I doubt I'll go see his next one either. I refuse to contribute to his wealth...


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Alzheimer's is not an excuse for such a public display of the disregard of people's feelings. He doesn't even have the dignity to respect those whose family was killed - no excuse can be made for his despicable actions.




This is one of the most STUPID / ASSININE comments I have ever seen on this board. Do you know ANYTHING about the disease? Do you know anyone with this disease? I did. My mother died of it. The things she said during this disease, she had no idea she was saying. She didn't fully realize the things she was doing. She was not even close to her once very religious being and had no self awareness. Get a freeking clue!!


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Michael Moore's films are a symbol as to why this country is great. If you disagree with the President and want to make films about it your free to do so.

If Michael Moore was Russian and tried to make a film about Putin, he'd be dead. I disagree with Michael Moore and his message but he is protected under the constitution, period.


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Hmm...apparently my post was cut off.

I was just saying that I HATE MICHAEL MOORE and it has nothing to do with right/left BS.

The fact of the matter is that he:
1. Makes/has made money off of people who are suffering
2. Dramaticizes problems without trying to provide an alternate solution
3. From my experiences living in Europe, he increases the distorted view of Americans.
4. Misuses information that people in his movies give to him.
5. Uses video imagery and I have to admit is very effective in strongly suading the minds of people who can't think for themselves.

Hey, by the way Michael, how's that lawsuit going where the soldier from Fahrenheit claims that you misrepresented what he was trying to say?

Thanks for being part of the solution, Michael.


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Alzheimer's is not an excuse for such a public display of the disregard of people's feelings. He doesn't even have the dignity to respect those whose family was killed - no excuse can be made for his despicable actions.




This is one of the most STUPID / ASSININE comments I have ever seen on this board. Do you know ANYTHING about the disease? Do you know anyone with this disease? I did. My mother died of it. The things she said during this disease, she had no idea she was saying. She didn't fully realize the things she was doing. She was not even close to her once very religious being and had no self awareness. Get a freeking clue!!



The reason I didn't respond to Charlie is because it's obvious he doesn't know a thing about it. My Grandma died from it. My Uncle has been married for 50 years, she was asking him how his girlfriend was -- the one who he saw BEFORE he married my Aunt.

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