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Irresponsible gun owners leave their guns where children can get their hands on them.

Protect your family.

Responsible gun owners store guns and ammo in a locked safe when they know they can't keep them in sight.



http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/08/31/abington-child-shot-linwood-street/

ABINGTON (CBS) – A young boy was accidentally shot in the face Wednesday inside an Abington home.

Plymouth District Attorney Timothy Cruz said an 11-year-old boy was shot on Linwood Street during an incident that also involved another 11-year-old.

Sources told WBZ-TV the boy was playing with his friend when the friend accidentally shot him.

Massachusetts State Police responded to the scene along with Abington Police and firefighters.

Police have not said the circumstances that led to the shooting.

One of the boys suffered serious injuries and was taken to South Shore Hospital in stable condition. He was then taken to a Boston hospital by MedFlight.

Plymouth D.A. Timothy Cruz addresses shooting


“We believe he’s doing OK right now, but any gun shot wound is dangerous and anything can happen,” said Cruz. “Our thoughts and prayers go out to that little boy’s safety. That’s No. 1 right now.”

Cruz said he is “not aware” if any adults were in the home at the time of the shooting, and he added that the gun was legally owned.

Neighbor Beverly McAuliffe looked on as the boy was loaded into an ambulance after the shooting.

“I saw the kid in the ambulance and he was just covered with blood in the face,” said McAuliffe. “They were playing together. I don’t know what they were doing or how they got the gun.”

Another woman said the incident is out of character for the otherwise quiet neighborhood.

“I panicked big time. You don’t expect anything like that to happen here. I hear so often that kids get a hold of a gun,” the woman said.

The only thing that will stop a bad 11 year old with a gun is a good 11 year old with a gun.

I know a few gun owners,, friends of mine,, I haven't asked but I bet they would say that if you want to own guns, you have to act responsibly. Keep the guns out of the reach of children.

A trigger locking mechanism is a ten dollar route to safety, and, enables you to be able to keep guns more out in the open/spread throughout the home in case of an emergency. Much, much easier to hide a key than it is to hide a firearm.

I have several lock boxes in my house that use a PIN to unlock quickly. They aren't super expensive and allows for quick access, more so than a trigger lock IMO. I have a combination lock gun safe as well. It amazes me the number of people that leave guns laying around the house, especially when kids might be around.

I have a gun, and it is pretty well hidden, but accessible.

However, I don't have kids.

If I had kids, it would be locked in a gun safe, with either a fingerprint lock or a combination, so that even if a child found a key, they would not be able to open it.

Glad it sounds like he is going to be ok. Pending an investigation, the gun owner/home owner should be punished fairly severely.

Unfortunately, being a dev and seeing a ton of various numbers and combinations of numbers, I'd not be able to to remember the key code. It would suck to need it, but not be able to unlock it.

Now, if you have a brain with a killer memory or good with numbers, those locks are by far the best route, imo, to be safe. Now, you don't need to be concerned if a key was found or not.

Unfortunately it wouldn't work with me. And I keep a firearm in every room of my house (I don't have children though).

man... some of you guys must live in some rough places to need so many guns. I feel lucky.

Just because you live in a fancy neighborhood doesn't translate to not needing protection... I'd assume the risk is lower, but you can never eliminate the risk. With that said, you could have a hundred weapons in every room, and that too won't eliminate the risk.

Gun safes just makes sense, even if you have no kids to keep out of them. It's so much easier to control the humidity.

You're in the living room, the gun safe is upstairs where the stairway is across the hall where you'd need to pass by the entrance door... which happens to be where a psycho is breaking in.

I like my odds of taking a few steps within the same room as opposed to running all over the place. That's my only issue with gun safes.

Or maybe, speaking for myself here, some of us live in a county of 420 sq. miles. Patrolled by, sheriff wise, generally 2 deputies. There may or may not be a highway patrol officer in our county at any given time.

There are certain times when there may be as many as 5 deputies on patrol, but those are generally the "big" nights/days. (holidays, holiday eves).


I've had to call 911 at 4 in the morning before. Guy beating on my door screaming that he wanted to come in. Took just under 20 minutes from the call to 911 until a cop showed up. Luckily, the guy was only hopped up on oxy and decided to not break in.

I've discussed this with cops before: What happens if someone breaks into my house and the deputies are 15 minutes away or so?

"Well, if it's a shooting situation, the dispatcher would try to get ahold of other police agencies to see if they could respond."

Comforting, isn't it?

I have 1 or so guns. Not one bit ashamed.

Yup. I have just a few as well. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it, hoping that a cop gets there in time.

Your situation above highlights that quite clearly - nearly 20 minutes for them to get there. That's called a mop-up operation if things turned bad after you got off the phone because you likely wouldn't be able to place another call while dealing with things gone wrong.

Also, to add to the topic: this is a shame, and the owner of that firearm definitely should have been more responsible. That said, we don't know that he wasn't -- an 11-year old is fully capable of finding where his dad keeps things and discovering a key for a locked up gun. About the best thing he could have done was to teach the boy gun safety and how to handle/respect one -- then they likely would not have been carelessly handling a loaded weapon.

Yes, back to the topic: Gun safety. A loaded gun should never be left laying around if kids are present. If it's not in your physical control, at worst it should be unloaded with the ammunition locked up.

Unlike the the shootings in, I don't know, say, Chicago. Doesn't Chicago have some of the supposed "toughest" gun laws around?

This. Also, if you store a gun in a safe and the assailant is bashing down your door, I would hope the freaking combination has been committed to memory.

This scenario reminds me of a Jim Jefferies bit (the comedian), lol.

that vid is a stitch.

When my son was 11, if he were to happen upon a firearm, there would have been no accidental shooting. He was taught how to safely handle weapons and to get an adult ASAP if he found one. As much as I trusted him, I did keep my firearms locked when he was a child though.

Yup, 4 digit code. I can do it left handed, right handed, upside down if need be. It's a small handgun safe, under the bed.

But, I don't use the safe at night.

I have a naked ass, and ten fingers I can pull. No need for a gun with that kind of weapon around.

While you are correct, the problem is that neighboring states don't.

I'm a strong second amendment supporter, yet at the very same time I realize that statements such as these really hold no merit when in just a few hours away, a person can buy a gun very easily in another state. Not only that, but towns and cities in Illinois have much more lax gun laws.

I believe it's very hard for strict gun laws to have any impact on a city when firearms are easily purchased close by.

That leaves one of two choices. Strict gun laws everywhere or no strict gun laws anywhere. I'm for the latter.

I really don't think - and I could very well be wrong - that most of Chicago's shootings are done with legally purchased and registered firearms by the people that those firearms are registered to.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the majority of them either are not registered, or have been stolen and while they may have been originally purchased legally, the person committing a crime with them is not the one that purchased it.


I just do not see it realistic - at all - that there is a steady stream of Chicago's violent offenders lining up in the suburban gun shops, or managing to complete out-of-state purchases.

I really should have been more specific. I was speaking about where they originate from.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/12/us/gun-traffickers-smuggling-state-gun-laws.html

While many do still originate from Illinois, many others in large numbers come from out of state. I'd say very few originate from Chicago.

That has nothing at all to do with this thread, but nice try on your attempted deflection.

General reply:

I really hope that whoever becomes president, they don't try to take guns away from honest and responsible US Citizens. I guess I understand the need to limit or eliminate certain models that can fire lots of rounds per second. Not sure what their value is myself.

But beyond that, leave it alone. From everything I've read, it's not the person that is a responsible gun owner that is the problem.

Again that's not what this thread is about. This thread is about keeping your family safe. And with the growing numbers of gun owners in the U.S. gun safety needs to be put at the top of the priority list for family safety these days.