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CapCity Dawg #1145441 08/25/16 03:07 PM
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The Chargers finish the season with a road game against the Denver Broncos, but according to Canter, the team's reason for not bringing the safety along for the trip is that they couldn't fit him on the plane.


Couldn't fit him on the plane? LOL.

Yep, as lies go, that one screams, we didn't even want to try to come up with something better.


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And Weddle was an excellent player for them.

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Of course, him signing might set a new precedent, one the union may not want.


See, but this I don't get.


I mean, yes, it is unfair. But San Diego holds the leverage. Point being, if he doesn't play this year and goes in the draft next year, the odds of him being hte number 3 pick are ridiculously low. And while it's one less year wear and tear on his body, he IS still getting older.

Is what he is doing good for the union? Yes. But they don't pay his paychecks....... And does he have a point, absolutely. But looking at his options, and what's the best for Joey Bosa, his best option would be to take that best offer, play his 4 to 5 years, and get himself geared up for his second contract (and say see ya to San Diego (The city which means "Whale's Vagina" in German)


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Seems to me Joey might be better off taking a crap contract just to play anywhere but SD. I mean if he gets taken later in the draft and loses 10-20 million on rookie deal he will probably make it all back when he does his next deal which will expire at the same time he would have if he signed a 5 year deal with SD as a top 5 pick.

It's not always a bad thing to sit out a year. For one, he could choose to do some very intense training that gives him 100% focus on improving technique. For another, his body will have a chance to rest and recover from the non stop abuse of football from highschool and college.

There might also be a chance he could enter the supplemental draft where team could basically make whatever contract they wanted to maybe. I'm not sure how the new supplemental draft works in the new agreement.

Either way the idea that he will suffer a great loss by refusing to sign with SD is not that realistic. I don't think anyone in there right mind expects a play to put up with what SD is trying to make happen to Bosa and I seriously doubt other team hold any ill will about it. Rather they are probably licking their chops to grab him themselves.


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San Diego (The city which means "Whale's Vagina" in German)


LOL man, but I don't think San Diego is German. wink grin

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San Diego (The city which means "Whale's Vagina" in German)


LOL man, but I don't think San Diego is German. wink grin


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Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
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The Chargers finish the season with a road game against the Denver Broncos, but according to Canter, the team's reason for not bringing the safety along for the trip is that they couldn't fit him on the plane.


Couldn't fit him on the plane? LOL.
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The Chargers finish the season with a road game against the Denver Broncos, but according to Canter, the team's reason for not bringing the safety along for the trip is that they couldn't fit him on the plane.


Couldn't fit him on the plane? LOL.



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I know it's all conjecture at this point, but I don't think he'd drop so far next year. Maybe not top 3, but he's still a potential stud pass rushing DE. Last I checked, those are hard to find and teams will bend over backwards to draft them. I think he still goes in the top 10. And with the standard increase for rookie contracts, he's going to be okay (still going to lose a bundle, but it won't be like $20m less).

If he's willing to stand his ground, I think he's going to be okay taking a bit less to get away from the Chargers.

I know the Aug 8th deadline has passed to trade an unsigned rookie, but couldn't the Chargers sign him to the deal he wants with the intent of trading him to another team?


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Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
I know it's all conjecture at this point, but I don't think he'd drop so far next year. Maybe not top 3, but he's still a potential stud pass rushing DE. Last I checked, those are hard to find and teams will bend over backwards to draft them. I think he still goes in the top 10. And with the standard increase for rookie contracts, he's going to be okay (still going to lose a bundle, but it won't be like $20m less).

If he's willing to stand his ground, I think he's going to be okay taking a bit less to get away from the Chargers.

I know the Aug 8th deadline has passed to trade an unsigned rookie, but couldn't the Chargers sign him to the deal he wants with the intent of trading him to another team?


Yes in theory. But his signing bonus would hit the cap in full and they unlikely have that much free room (don't know, maybe they do).

I suspect that there would need to be some sort of agreement between the two teams and Bosa to make it happen - something like fully guarantee his year 1 salary at as much as SD could cover from a cap perspective, then other bonuses to get him to what he'd have made. It'd certainly have to be creative to get it within cap rules, the slotting system, and to make sure it appeases Bosa.

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Of course, him signing might set a new precedent, one the union may not want.


See, but this I don't get.


I mean, yes, it is unfair. But San Diego holds the leverage. Point being, if he doesn't play this year and goes in the draft next year, the odds of him being hte number 3 pick are ridiculously low. And while it's one less year wear and tear on his body, he IS still getting older.

Is what he is doing good for the union? Yes. But they don't pay his paychecks....... And does he have a point, absolutely. But looking at his options, and what's the best for Joey Bosa, his best option would be to take that best offer, play his 4 to 5 years, and get himself geared up for his second contract (and say see ya to San Diego (The city which means "Whale's Vagina" in German)


Yes, which is why I started off saying that I think he should sign, do his time, and move on to another team.

I can see the union urging him to not sign, in order to not set a new precedent. But that does not mean I think he shouldn't sign. He needs to sign because not doing so will not improve his situation.

I had mentioned earlier in the thread about spending a couple of days in SD with a client. Not only did none of them know who Bosa is (after the talk switched to the Chargers) but no one was aware of that line from Anchorman, either.

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Next CBA the NFL should get contract arbitrage written in to avoid stupid disputes like this one. Teams have too much care blanche on contracts.

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The guy is a jerk! I hope he doesn't play one down this year!


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still no movement here? It's looking like he won't have much time to get prepared to be an initial impact


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Watched every Bosa game here in CBus, product if a system, took plays off, edge rusher thats it, reminds me of Kruger

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Originally Posted By: Jcamm
Watched every Bosa game here in CBus, product if a system, took plays off, edge rusher thats it, reminds me of Kruger


I agree, something about Bosa always had bust written on him for me at the next level, at any rate contracts being slotted as they are he should have just shut up, signed and proved it on the field.


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Bosa always seemed to be somewhat of a loose cannon or oddball (not that it's a bad thing, especially in sports) ... but if you would have told me one person who was going to have this scenario in the 16 draft, I would have said him


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Go Joey!!!


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I know you guys addressed it briefly, but do you guys think he's doing just simply because he just doesn't want to be in San Diego?

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I know you guys addressed it briefly, but do you guys think he's doing just simply because he just doesn't want to be in San Diego?


As much as I hated it, Eli Manning did it right. Let them know, "I'm not ever going to play for San Diego".. So SD made a deal and everyone is happy to this day.

Although I don't know that's the reasoning. Probably just the dollars like everyone is reporting..


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I know you guys addressed it briefly, but do you guys think he's doing just simply because he just doesn't want to be in San Diego?


I thought that but if he didn't want to be there I would have thought he would have pushed them more to be traded... If he misses this year hell lose a ton of money


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I know you guys addressed it briefly, but do you guys think he's doing just simply because he just doesn't want to be in San Diego?


I thought that but if he didn't want to be there I would have thought he would have pushed them more to be traded... If he misses this year hell lose a ton of money



Let him sit out and go as a UDFA next year. Then Joey Bozo can pick his team.


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I know you guys addressed it briefly, but do you guys think he's doing just simply because he just doesn't want to be in San Diego?


I thought that but if he didn't want to be there I would have thought he would have pushed them more to be traded... If he misses this year hell lose a ton of money



Let him sit out and go as a UDFA next year. Then Joey Bozo can pick his team.


He actually goes back into the draft...


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Originally Posted By: jaybird
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I know you guys addressed it briefly, but do you guys think he's doing just simply because he just doesn't want to be in San Diego?


I thought that but if he didn't want to be there I would have thought he would have pushed them more to be traded... If he misses this year hell lose a ton of money






Let him sit out and go as a UDFA next year. Then Joey Bozo can pick his team.


He actually goes back into the draft...



I know. That is why I said UDFA, but I am sure some team would draft him.


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Article did not mention how those two points ended up, the deferred bonus and offset language.

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Who finally gave in I wonder? Sure we'll know here soon, guessing it was Bosa giving into SD.

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Who finally gave in I wonder? Sure we'll know here soon, guessing it was Bosa giving into SD.


Bosa's contract is fully guaranteed.

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Glad he's signed. Now he's got to go to work.


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Good for both parties. For his sake I hope he's not too far behind.


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Now he's missing practice due to a soft tissue injury.

What a horrid beginning.

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Now he's missing practice due to a soft tissue injury.

What a horrid beginning.


yeah, it's not ideal


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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LOL....glad we didn't draft the guy, but it's not like our 1st rounder hasn't been gimped up with pulled muscles.


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LOL....glad we didn't draft the guy, but it's not like our 1st rounder hasn't been gimped up with pulled muscles.


Our first rounder attended everything from rookie minicamp on up though. Bosa is light-years behind.

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