As for the draft deferment - I honestly didn't even know about that.
I don't care about Trump, I don't like Trump - I don't listen to any of the noise about Trump. The ONLY thing he has going for him is that he IS NOT Hillary.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
A guy deferring from the draft for health reasons yet more than willing to put troops in harms way, as well as commit war crimes?
I shouldnt have to draw a chart or graph to show relavence.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Watch the video. For real. The number of incidents with her and the amount of time that things have been going on is disturbing. At best, it shows a frailty that I'd prefer to not have in the Oval Office. At worst, it shows a whole lot worse.
Last edited by PrplPplEater; 09/12/1609:44 AM.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I wish y'all would spend the same amount of time on trump draft deferments for 'health' reasons as y'all did Hillarys health.
I don't expect unbiased opinions from somebody like Arch, but I certainly did from guys like Purp and Haus.
But I guess that shows my flaws in expecting people to be balanced.
Well quite frankly, I think the health of the candidates now is more important than why one of them didn't get drafted 50 years ago.
It's not like I take any pleasure in going after somebody for their health. Health is precious. You don't really realize that until you lose it. I don't wish ill on anybody-- not Hillary, not anybody.
At the same time, I realize that the presidency is a stressful and demanding job. Obama was a healthy and fit candidate going in. Look at him eight years later. It takes a toll on people. It took a toll on Bush. It will take a toll on the next president, and if that president is already extremely unhealthy going in, all bets are off. Seriously, forget about policy differences or rhetoric right now-- imagine having a president who is mentally deficient, like totally gone.
That is a national security disaster waiting to happen. I'm not saying that is Hillary right now, but if there are all these things that point toward her having Parkinson's disease or something along those lines, isn't that a pretty big deal? I used to work with old people as part of an old job. I've seen what dementia, Parkinson's etc. do to people and it is awful.
Just for FYI, I respect you and others enough to watch the videos when you post them.
I watched the one you posted.
All I'm saying is she's going through a rough period with her health.
But I'm not about to sit here and act like that's gonna be a problem during her entire period of presidency, knowing that she'll have the best doctors making sure she's good.
The fact that she has pneumonia and is still out here getting it, no matter how stupid it may be of her to do so, shows that it must not be THAT serious.
If she passes out on the debate stage, then I'll take this problem seriously.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I respect you and others enough to watch the videos when you post them.
And vice versa.
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The fact that she has pneumonia
If she has pneumonia, that is, and pneumonia isn't being trotted out as a covering explanation for the coughing fits and other things we are clearly seeing go on with her. I do not believe pneumonia explains the video of her being dragged into the van yesterday with legs that weren't under her control - especially when she comes walking out of her daughters building just a short while later. This means that what was happening with her motor skills yesterday was an episodic event; pneumonia is not ever in that category and does not explain this.
What this means is that IF she has pneumonia, it is in addition to whatever else is going on with her. It is not the full explanation, at all.
Last edited by PrplPplEater; 09/12/1610:04 AM.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Just for FYI, I respect you and others enough to watch the videos when you post them.
I watched the one you posted.
All I'm saying is she's going through a rough period with her health.
But I'm not about to sit here and act like that's gonna be a problem during her entire period of presidency, knowing that she'll have the best doctors making sure she's good.
The fact that she has pneumonia and is still out here getting it, no matter how stupid it may be of her to do so, shows that it must not be THAT serious.
If she passes out on the debate stage, then I'll take this problem seriously.
She passed out during/after the 15 year 9/11 memorial service. That's pretty bad. Apparently it was due to overheating/dehydration but it was only about 75 degrees and 45% humidity.
Apparently it was due to having been diagnosed with pneumonia a couple days earlier, but even that doesn't add up when you consider all the other health problems she has had both recently and going back years, and also brings other questions into play (why was she playing with young children two days after being diagnosed with bacterial pneumonia?!)
I'm tempted to say that she will skip the debates entirely to avoid this kind of debacle, but I have a hard time imagining that will happen. More likely, the debate structure will be highly controlled, with frequent breaks and such so her doctors can check on her often. I'd be shocked if she was left alone on the debate stage for an hour or more at once. I don't think she would be able to handle the stress.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
At what point do the dems stick Biden in the race and get hillary into the hospital? Surely they aren't going to continue on this path with that unknown she gave the VP nod to.
At what point do the dems stick Biden in the race and get hillary into the hospital? Surely they aren't going to continue on this path with that unknown she gave the VP nod to.
I was thinking either Biden or Sanders.. not sure which. But I bet they would go to Biden first then Sanders.
I'd feel better about Biden than I do about Hillary. But still, he's got his issues as well.
At least he's not Trump LOL
Funny thing is, Bernie is probably the most honest of the bunch.. Sad isn't it?
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
At what point do the dems stick Biden in the race and get hillary into the hospital? Surely they aren't going to continue on this path with that unknown she gave the VP nod to.
How insane would it be if this happened with Hillary and then Trump drops out and the Republicans have to go with Ryan at the last minute?
Nobody would have any idea at all whom to vote for.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
At what point do the dems stick Biden in the race and get hillary into the hospital? Surely they aren't going to continue on this path with that unknown she gave the VP nod to.
How insane would it be if this happened with Hillary and then Trump drops out and the Republicans have to go with Ryan at the last minute?
Nobody would have any idea at all whom to vote for.
Oddly, none of that would change my vote,, I'm going with Johnson even if he doesn't know what an Aleppo is LOL
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
At what point do the dems stick Biden in the race and get hillary into the hospital? Surely they aren't going to continue on this path with that unknown she gave the VP nod to.
How insane would it be if this happened with Hillary and then Trump drops out and the Republicans have to go with Ryan at the last minute?
Nobody would have any idea at all whom to vote for.
What would be great about it is the fact that those two are so much better than the current clowns we have running.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
At what point do the dems stick Biden in the race and get hillary into the hospital? Surely they aren't going to continue on this path with that unknown she gave the VP nod to.
How insane would it be if this happened with Hillary and then Trump drops out and the Republicans have to go with Ryan at the last minute?
Nobody would have any idea at all whom to vote for.
What would be great about it is the fact that those two are so much better than the current clowns we have running.
At least Biden would offer comic relief to the election cycle, he has that natural gift of comedic timing, even when not he's trying to be funny.
At what point do the dems stick Biden in the race and get hillary into the hospital? Surely they aren't going to continue on this path with that unknown she gave the VP nod to.
How insane would it be if this happened with Hillary and then Trump drops out and the Republicans have to go with Ryan at the last minute?
Nobody would have any idea at all whom to vote for.
This would be the greatest thing to happen. An HW Republican vs a Socialist. As much as I don't like the economic policies of Republicans, HW was a very fine president overall. He's certainly a safe-bet President. I'm going to be really excited to see the Elizabeth Warren vs. Ryan in 2020... Right? 2020? There's no way we can elect either one of these clowns for 2 elections in a row.
Right? Anyway, her health condition is very scary to all of us. I hope this doesn't tip the election to give it to Trump. Heck even the twitter reporters I follow on twitter (Mainly from Politico, AP, NYT, Intercept, etc.,) were saying how this is a problem. And calling it a "media conspiracy" was unfair as she refused to meet with reporters for the prior two years.
Very interesting. And I've noticed how, when she's being spoken to/asked a question, the head bob she has. I just assumed it was "learned political" move - you know, show the questioner that you're hearing them.
The doc's explanation makes a lot of sense though, as I think about the 2 people I knew that hard parkinsons.
I respect you and others enough to watch the videos when you post them.
And vice versa.
Quote:
The fact that she has pneumonia
If she has pneumonia, that is, and pneumonia isn't being trotted out as a covering explanation for the coughing fits and other things we are clearly seeing go on with her. I do not believe pneumonia explains the video of her being dragged into the van yesterday with legs that weren't under her control - especially when she comes walking out of her daughters building just a short while later. This means that what was happening with her motor skills yesterday was an episodic event; pneumonia is not ever in that category and does not explain this.
What this means is that IF she has pneumonia, it is in addition to whatever else is going on with her. It is not the full explanation, at all.
First, yesterday, it was "she over heated". Then, it was "she was dehydrated", then, it was "she has pneumonia".
And, with an attack like she had, where she couldn't even walk, none of the secret service even seemed overly concerned.....and she was taken straight to the hospit.....wait, no, she wasn't. She went to her daughters apartment.
