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The IRS already said that he can show his tax returns no matter if he's being audited or not.

And I feel you bro. Just cause someone is being audited means nothing. Billionaires get audited on the regular, just comes with the territory.

And that's why I said before: if you don't want to release your tax returns simply because you don't want to, just say that. Sure, people will continue to speculate, but at the end of the day, all they can do is be mad.

But when you start coming up with weak ass excuses as to why you won't release them, then it makes you look shady as all hell.

I'm absolutely convinced he's hiding something that would embarrass him.

Anybody know what he's hiding?

Based off of polls, I think Trump wins Florida and Ohio. However, I think Hillary wins Pennsylvania, Colorado, and Virginia. I think Hillary also holds on to all blue states. Michigan and Wisconsin are becoming essentially blue dominated states. This will be a very close race. I'm talking 272-266 type of close.


I'll wait for the standard response of "well, my buddies in Wisconsin and Michigan (probably white males, which I've said Trump owns this demographic) have said they're voting Trump!"

Priorities...

While the "healther" movement continues to create a conspiracy theory about Clinton's health Mr. Trump continues to be....Trump.

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Trump can literally say and do whatever the hell he wants and it's okay. Here's what happens when you call that stuff out:

1. You get labeled as a biased liberal.
2. You get labeled as too PC.
3. You get a deflection tactic of "LOOK AT WHAT HILLARY DID!"

On behalf of all Canadians, please....just finish it up. The length of the campaign process in the US is ridiculous and it turns the media world into a cesspool of mudslinging and exhaustive commentary.

Oh..and if it could not be Trump, that'd be super.

isn't y'all campaign time something like no more than 3-6 months or something like this?

thats about the standard around the world.

i think we're the only country that turns the election cycle into a full length season on TV.

Survivor: Election 2016.

There's actually no precise timeframe but it typically runs for about 2 months. Only limitation is that its supposed to be at least 36 days.

2 months doesn't even clear primaries for the US.

Read something that I've felt for awhile about coal mining and other jobs similar to it.



These jobs aren't coming back. Unless you guys think Trump will magically create mountains and force companies to stop using machines.

Yep. That's the reality now skill jobs are the ones most likely to die and/or get replaced by robots.

That's why I laugh at the McDonald's workers wanting 15 an hour. In Germany I was already ordering my food inside from a machine back in 2010.

It's only a matter of time before it happens here in the US large scale. It's already happening in certain places, btw.

Industries die, and industries rise.

Either adapt, or die off.

candyman92, it's no secret that the politics of the overwhelming majority of this board fall inside the GOP camp. SInce most are blue collar on here, I don't get it either but that's the way it is.

So, sure you are going to get those reactions when you post something counter to their thinking. And try as you may, you will probably never be able to reach most with any sort of reasoning simply because your political leanings are to the left.

Welcome to hell.

I don't think I know anyone that wouldn't prefer the length of the campaign process to be cut to 6 months.

But in this day and age, I'm not sure that can be accomplished.

What would help is if we could appoint a commission of some type that would independently investigate the charges that candidates make against either other.

If they find it to be a lie, some punishment needs presented.

No more PAC's. No More independent groups pushing for one thing or another.

No more stupid stuff on Facebook that just lies. I mean BIG HUGE lies. Both parties are guilty of that one.

That might be a good start, but I'm not holding my breathe

Oh what a difference a month makes! What happened to your spewing about a landslide for Hillary and Trump having zero chance?

Surprised no one has talked about Colin Powell's emails getting hacked and released.

I don't think he said that.

But I certainly did. And come the debates, it's gonna happen.

You better pray your boy is prepping hard for these debates. Cause if sounds like anything we've heard on the campaign trail, it's gonna be so ugly that I MIGHT actually start feeling bad for you.

If trump wants to make this a close campaign at the LEAST, never mind win, then he better show up as the man, and hit Hillary with straight up fire.

I can't wait for the first debate.

Hope my boy is quick enough to catch Hill when she faints at the site of truth.

He has to start telling the truth before that happens.

As somebody who decided a few weeks ago that he just doesn't have a dog in this race anymore... I think it's sad that one of these two people will be the next POTUS and even more sad watching friends and family argue over which one it should be.

Neither will be good for us.

I still don't want Trump in no matter what.

I also believe that Hillary is really sick. President Tim Kaine? OMG

Not to mention that I agree that Hillary is crooked.

In the past at least we could choose the worst of two evils, there is just no choice here and a very small fraction of Americans will side with one or the other and determine who will lead while the majority stays home and tunes out. Sad for America.

Was that part of Guccifer 2.0's recent hack? I did see part of that and one article about Colin Powell having some negative things to say about both Trump and Hillary (probably worse things about Trump though).

There was a lot of other interesting stuff too, like stuff that expands on the "pay to play" shenanigans when Hillary was in office. I'm going to look through it some more later.

It's reality TV bro.

Government is suppose to be boring.

Not here though. We need those ratings.

According to The Daily Caller, Powell also sent one email in March 2015 complaining that “Hillary’s Mafia keeps trying to suck me into” the email controversy, which at the time had only just surfaced.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/...ges-reveal.html

When did I spew Trump will have no chance? Hell, if anything I've said Hillary has to carried to the finish line because she has run a garbage campaign.

How the Trump Organization's Foreign Business Ties Could Upend U.S. National Security

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/donald-trump-foreign-business-deals-national-security-498081.html

Simply too long to post.

Colin Powell, in Hacked Email, Calls Trump ‘National Disgrace’

WASHINGTON — Former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who served as President George W. Bush’s top diplomat, derided Donald J. Trump as a “national disgrace” and an “international pariah” in personal email exchanges that were leaked online Tuesday.

In the emails, reported by BuzzFeed News, Mr. Powell also accuses Mr. Trump, the Republican nominee for president, of having embraced what Mr. Powell called a “racist” movement when he questioned the validity of President Obama’s birth certificate.

An aide to Mr. Powell confirmed the hack and said, “They are his emails.”

“Yup, the whole birther movement was racist,” Mr. Powell wrote in an email to a former aide, according to BuzzFeed. “That’s what the 99% believe. When Trump couldn’t keep that up he said he also wanted to see if the certificate noted that he was a Muslim. As I have said before, ‘What if he was?’ Muslims are born as Americans everyday.”

Mr. Powell’s emails appeared online at a website called DCLeaks.com, according to BuzzFeed. The site has previously posted documents from hacking into prominent Democrats and some Republicans, according to news reports. In July, The Intercept reported on emails leaked to the site from Gen. Philip M. Breedlove, the former commander of NATO forces in Europe.

An aide to Mr. Powell, a retired general who also served as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, responded Wednesday morning to an inquiry about the emails: “We are confirming that General Powell has been hacked and that they are his emails. We have no further comment at this time.” Mr. Powell did not respond to an email sent directly to his personal account.

In a separate leaked email exchange reported by NBC News, Mr. Powell also criticized aides to Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate for president, for their attempts to “drag me in” to the controversies surrounding her use of a private email server when she was secretary of state.

In that email, Mr. Powell lamented that he had repeatedly told Mrs. Clinton’s “minions” that they are “making a mistake trying to drag me in, yet they still try.”

In her interview with the F.B.I. into the use of the email server, Mrs. Clinton told investigators that Mr. Powell had advised her to use a personal email account, according to notes of the interview disclosed to members of Congress by the bureau last month.

The Associated Press reported that in another leaked email, Mr. Powell, using Mrs. Clinton’s initials, wrote that “Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us/politics/colin-powell-emails-hack-donald-trump.html?_r=0

Both of these candidates suck. It's funny reading a thread about how one sucks less than the other.

Actually, I think I've said and it's a fair statement: Trump is facing a uphill battle. It had nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the battle the GOP had ahead of themselves. Obama really laid waste to Romney on the electoral map. Dems have locked up major blue states which will make it difficult for Repubs to win. Trump has to keep his read states, win Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina. Yet he still might not win.

Oooooooooooo damn.

Will this matter to Trump supporters?

I know for anybody who is on the fence with voting for trump or not, this should certainly make you lean one way or another a bit.

How I see thing breaking down-



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Boy do I feel your pain.. man we don't have a reasonable choice in this race. Even Johnson isn't exactly a winner either, not that he had a chance at all.

I don't know if Hillary is really sick, I hope not, I don't wish that on anyone of course. But if she is, she should pull out.

Trump should be disqualified if for no other reasons that his crooked business dealings. Man is that ever coming out now. Not that it wasn't already known.

No matter what happens, this country is in a pickle.

Best thing that could happen is that both lead candidates get disqualified in some way, then the Reps could run Ryan and the Dems could run either Sanders or Biden..

That way, no matter what, I think we end up with a good human being. Flawed sure, but at least a decent person.

Now imagine that your map is 100% accurate EXCEPT that Gary Johnson wins his home state of New Mexico - Doh!

It is my sincere hope that as President, Trump will be the one to finally solve America's Black problem.

40 I don't want to take you out of context, so what do you mean by this? On the surface this quote could be misinterpreted and make you sound like a Klan member.

In fairness, you should quote his/her entire comment:

Now, that doesn't clarify exactly what he meant, I know. But when I read YOUR quote, I took it as what you are hinting at.

When I read his original quote/post, I didn't take it that way at all.

I hope you don't mean this like Hitler's Final Solution to the Jewish problem...

I too would like you to clarify exactly what you mean here.

I am sure he doesn't mean extermination... I'm just surprised it hasn't been pointed out that he referred to it as "America's black problem"..... I'm not the most PC guy in the world, but damn, that's a terrible way to word it..

This is exactly how I feel about this election.

Hmmm, wife yelled to order Chinese for dinner so I posted what I had at the time. Ordered, set the table and ate.

First to answer some questions that came up...
Yes, as a person of Scottish heritage, I am a proud member of my Clan. We have a President, castle, tartan and lands in Scotland.

Second, I meant to say "In the Black" problem. Everything in America is currently in the Red, our Budget, National Debt, Pensions etc... It is my hope that Trump can at least turn the corner on this problem to get us back in the Black. Our house needs to be built on Rock to fix all the other problems in our land and not on sand.

And Third, yes, I hope his solutions are Final.

Thanks for clarifying that.

j/c

Here is a quote from swish in the previous thread - about Trump and his military deferment:

And then we have this article:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/14/hillary-clintons-story-of-a-vietnam-era-confrontation-over-law-school-admissions/

Allow me to highlight one paragraph from said article:


So, Bill was eligible to be drafted, but he got a deferment because he promised to join the ROTC. Okay.

Then, when he got a high draft number, he gave up the ROTC program at Arkansas and entered Yale.

Weird.