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When you make it possible and profitable to leave the hood the people will leave in a heartbeat.

It is possible and it is profitable... it's just not common. And once somebody does it, they don't go back to bring others along with them, they just disappear into suburbia somewhere...


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
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When you make it possible and profitable to leave the hood the people will leave in a heartbeat.

It is possible and it is profitable... it's just not common. And once somebody does it, they don't go back to bring others along with them, they just disappear into suburbia somewhere...


Yes, is possible as I am living proof of it but they are not taught that nor are they seriously ever shown that. Instead they are systematically told by everyone that their life has no hope and they should just learn to accept their life how it is.

So let me rephrase that it not only needs to be possible but also probable.


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When you make it possible and profitable to leave the hood the people will leave in a heartbeat.

It is possible and it is profitable... it's just not common. And once somebody does it, they don't go back to bring others along with them, they just disappear into suburbia somewhere...


Yes, is possible as I am living proof of it but they are not taught that nor are they seriously ever shown that. Instead they are systematically told by everyone that their life has no hope and they should just learn to accept their life how it is.

So let me rephrase that it not only needs to be possible but also probable.

I agree and I apologize if I came off as combative with my comment, that was not my intention. It does need to be shown as a viable alternative, that there are roads that lead out of the hood that don't involve a ball or music...


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Your right of course and I wasn't offended. I was just clarifying. I think we both get each other's point.

There is no perfect solution to people suffering from poverty. Still, I think if everyone is fed and has housing that you at least give the kids a safer starting point.

At some point we have to give up on this whole if only they were smarter or made better choices they wouldn't be in this mess. I mean it's true but it's also not. You can only make choices when you think there is a real choice to be made. When your 3rd and 4th generation into poverty your elders don't think about teaching you to get ahead they teach you how to survive another day.

Even if you're fed and housed you're not going to be happy with just that. You probably won't even be grateful because at a certain point it becomes expected. This is why you have to teach people to work for their food instead of just handing it out for free. You have to have a way of making them earn it that is still respectful to the person receiving it. Otherwise they will take the food because they need it but they will resent you because they had to.

To me I would make volunteer work part of a requirement to receive aid if your not working at all. Then it's not a handout but a payment for work rendered. Society gets something back and the person receiving aid is being useful to society. Once they get a job no volunteer work required even if they still need aid. Imagine all the benefit a city could receive if all the people receiving welfare and NOT working were instead organized into a workforce to benefit their own city.

Don't want to do volunteer work then get a job or starve. Either way it forces action when they get hungry enough. Treating people like dogs that just have to be fed and housed is not ok in my book. People should be cared for better than dogs and more should be expected of them too.


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There is no perfect solution to people suffering from poverty. Still, I think if everyone is fed and has housing that you at least give the kids a safer starting point.

You mean safe like the projects??


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You probably won't even be grateful because at a certain point it becomes expected. This is why you have to teach people to work for their food instead of just handing it out for free. You have to have a way of making them earn it that is still respectful to the person receiving it.


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Now, if you read the article, I'm sure a lot of the drop is economic improvement. It's not a coincidence that the 2 biggest drops are 2005 and now, both times we were coming out of a recession... but I do believe there is something to this and what you are saying.

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There is no perfect solution to people suffering from poverty.

You are correct because some percentage of people, black, white, and other are going to make craptastic decisions and are just too damn lazy to go do it for themselves even if you laid the golden path to success at their feet. That's a sad but true statement about human nature.

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At some point we have to give up on this whole if only they were smarter or made better choices they wouldn't be in this mess. I mean it's true but it's also not. You can only make choices when you think there is a real choice to be made. When your 3rd and 4th generation into poverty your elders don't think about teaching you to get ahead they teach you how to survive another day.

This is something I have come to realize lately..


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