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At this point, even IF McCown possibly gets cleared to play next week, it's pointless.

As much as RG3 is made of glass, so is McCown. Yes, the O line has some responbility in that, but he just can not stay healthy since being on this team.

If we're gonna do this youth movement, might as well go all the way.

It's time to see what Cody has.


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NO, saith I.

But, in reality, we have our starter out for another.......8-10 weeks? We probably have our best qb out for.............who knows how long.

So, more than likely, in goes Kessler, so we can ruin another qb.


After McCown got inured today I was thinking "well, at this rate, we only need 13 more quarterbacks to finish the season."

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as much as I like Josh, I would not be too upset to see Cody get out there. At the same time I don't think Cody can push the ball up field like RGIII or Josh can. Josh had some nice deep balls today.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
At this point, even IF McCown possibly gets cleared to play next week, it's pointless.

As much as RG3 is made of glass, so is McCown. Yes, the O line has some responbility in that, but he just can not stay healthy since being on this team.

If we're gonna do this youth movement, might as well go all the way.

It's time to see what Cody has.



I disagree. It's Week 3.

If the coaches feel McCown gives the team the best chance to win, then you play him. It's too early to lose the locker room, presumably forfeiting the season, and Kessler will get plenty of chances to play towards the end of the season once the team is out of contention.

I also don't think this FO's thought process for the future is contingent upon seeing Kessler.


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I disagree. I'm not too sure putting Kessler out there is going to accomplish anything other than severely traumatizing a young QB with our OL. I'd rather take the lumps with McCown and focus on developing the young group of WRs and help all skill players learn this offense. Putting out an inexperienced QB will stunt any experience other players get.

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Put Kessler in when he is game ready. I'm not sure he is yet. Giving the OL time to gel probably wouldn't hurt either. No need to break him if he's not ready.


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So you out this guy back out there with a dead arm?

Did you not learn anything from last year when Pettine ran this guy into the ground?

Doesn't a healthy QB give us the best chance to win?


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1) Depends on what's up with the shoulder.

2) I think McCown ran himself into the ground more than Pet did. McCown might not have a good grip on the live to play another down concept.

3) Depends on who the healthy QB is. Kessler didn't look ready in the pre-season.


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Neither did wentz.

I'm just saying. Why trot a guy out there who, by your own admission, has no concept of living for another down, and is thus likely to just get killed again?

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I'd say no. He definitely can't be ready to play at this moment ... if he ever will


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Just let it happen bro.

Cody is the future. Get that jersey ready.


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Or, get ready to send another qb to the scrap heap because they weren't ready.

That'll work. We'll draft another qb. Next year. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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I don't think theres a need to rush Kessler out there, just for the simple fact we'll see him sooner rather than later at the rate this right side blocks


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Arch and lead:

So who do we put out there if McCown can't play?

Cody has gone through all of training camp and beyond. He's knows the playbook better than any QB we pick up on the street, as of now.


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So you out this guy back out there with a dead arm?

Did you not learn anything from last year when Pettine ran this guy into the ground?

Doesn't a healthy QB give us the best chance to win?


If he isn't healthy? No, I don't play him. But that's not what you said in your original post... You said regardless of that fact, you'd play Kessler. I would disagree if McCown is healthy to play next Sunday.


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I'd still start him over McCown.

Start the Browns Christmas tradition of starting the Third stringer early.


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So who do we put out there if McCown can't play?

Cody has gone through all of training camp and beyond. He's knows the playbook better than any QB we pick up on the street, as of now.



Absolutely. But, you're assuming, possibly correctly, that McCown won't be able to play.

If that's the case, Yup, Kessler gets the start. If that's NOT the case, no, McCown gets the start.

And, like I said somewhere, we're only looking, at this rate, at 13 different starting qbs. We'd best be looking for backups.

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I would rather have Pryor out there at QB than Kessler.

I don't think Kessler would make it through one series alive.

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So who do we put out there if McCown can't play?

Cody has gone through all of training camp and beyond. He's knows the playbook better than any QB we pick up on the street, as of now.



oh i was just being funny, i don't think it matters who starts, neither are going to make the difference in winning. I do however think, unless McCown is 100% I'd start Kessler, right now is the perfect time.. Miami isn't that great and you can manage what kessler does and protect him. McCown is just what he is, He'll do a couple things that make you hmm..ok maybe this will work, then he'll revert back into the guy that was 1-14..he's just not the answer to any question. Kessler just didn't look like he could do anything in preseason. I think we will see Hogan before the bye


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I dunno if I want Suh to be the first DT he faces. I feel like it would end badly. Hopefully McCown can survive at least one more.

Sadly, I don't think there is a front I'd like him to face till the Redskins and maybe not even them.


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He's probably not ready for it but I'd ask this.

What's he learning behind these current QBs?

It's one thing to be Aaron Rodgers behind Brett Favre but what does Kessler get behind Griffin or McCown?

He could sit here for three years and learn to be a mediocre backup. When is it the right time? Around here the answer seems to be never...

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He's learning from the Coaches more than the QBs hopefully.


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Could starta new thread, but:

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He's probably not ready for it but I'd ask this.

What's he learning behind these current QBs?

It's one thing to be Aaron Rodgers behind Brett Favre but what does Kessler get behind Griffin or McCown?

He could sit here for three years and learn to be a mediocre backup. When is it the right time? Around here the answer seems to be never...


theres something to be said for that, learn on the field and Hue coaching him throughout the game..mold him the way HE wants his Qb's to play..not 14 years of journeyman habits


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Expect him to be out at least a little while


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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It may only be time for Kessler because of crisis. No way out of curiosity would I start him to see what he has; pretty sure I saw it in preseason and it was lacking a bunch. He is not the answer and won't have much shelf life either. Greco over Erving.

Better put the NFL Available waiver wire on speed dial. Austin Davis?


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Kessler is not Wentz by any stretch. He is healthy now and probably will join the likes of our two hurt QB's is very short order with worse production. Dial up some help that has survived. Hue's dream or experiment is not NFL ready yet, and not sure he will be.


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Sign Austin Davis and Connor Shaw.

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i think davis signed elswehere


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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and i think connor shaw is out for the season


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Fantastic

Our options are Ryan Lindley, Josh Freeman, and for lulz Manziel.

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Lol man I can't even imagine the crap storm that would come if we resigned manziel.


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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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It's time to start Kessler? That sounds like a "hot take" I'd hear from Goldhammer on WKNR.

Kessler is not clearly not ready. McCown is obviously not the future, however, his steadiness at the helm allows the young guys around him to develop.

Kessler's likely ceiling is career backup and that's ok.

Kessler will not in any way preclude the Browns from taking a QB in the draft next year.

The coaching staff knows where he is at in his development.

In all likelihood, he'll see some time sooner than later, no need to force it at the detriment to the other players that need developed.


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Kessler is not clearly not ready.



So he's ready? Get your jerseys ready, guys!!! The future is here!!


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Kessler is not clearly not ready.



So he's ready? Get your jerseys ready, guys!!! The future is here!!


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Fantastic

Our options are Ryan Lindley, Josh Freeman, and for lulz Manziel.


Actually with Manziel serving his 4 game suspension, he could not serve as the backup QB.

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They may not have a choice but to start him.


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Tony Grossi ‏ @ TonyGrossi 13s 13 seconds ago

Itinerant QB Josh Johnson has experience in Hue Jackson offense. # Browns scrambling to sign somebody.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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