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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Can you imagine the outrage if someone posted a similar pic w/different colored faces?

Double standards for phony people.

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Trump just flat out said he wants racial profiling.

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You say that like there isnt any racial profiling now.


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So it's okay? We're gonna stop and frisk everyone with brown skin?

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Also, I swear Trump just makes things easy for Hillary. You'll see about 500 ads on his comments.

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Thats probably not gonna stop regardless of who is in office. Sorry to get your hopes up. But feel free to march about it.


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Swish likes this. LOL

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Swish likes this. LOL

I'm ready for a three page long tirade about this from Swish...

For the record, this is the first I've heard of these comments.

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He also double downed on the comments on Oreillys show

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Swish likes this. LOL

I'm ready for a three page long tirade about this from Swish...

For the record, this is the first I've heard of these comments.


Im waiting for the spin job on his comments followed by 30 links related to Hillary.

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Im waiting for the spin job on his comments followed by 30 links related to Hillary.


Every coin has two sides. It's why these threads are so long, and nobody's minds are ever changed.



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Swish likes this. LOL

I'm ready for a three page long tirade about this from Swish...

For the record, this is the first I've heard of these comments.


Im waiting for the spin job on his comments followed by 30 links related to Hillary.

The tirade thing was just a friendly jab at Swish based on an old joke about the tirades we go on sometimes. It kind of came off wrong. nothing meant by it.

As far as Trump's comments, I still have to watch the full video. On one hand, I don't trust the media to provide full context and an accurate interpretation of his remarks. On the other hand, I don't want to put my foot in my mouth, at face value his comments are divisive and I think it's strange he would be going down that road this late in the election season. He's been doing so well the last six weeks!

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He's been doing so well the last six hours!


Now, it's fixed.


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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-tr...ory?id=42191664

you know what's crazy? some conservatives sincerely thought that obama was gonna declare marshall law and such.

yet the only person coming close to it is a republican nominee.

how come nobody targets the polygamist in this country? i mean, the cops know who they are, right? isn't polygamy illegal? why aren't the cops doing anything about it? are they afraid?

Haus, your boy can't keep his mouth shut. bank on it: he's gonna say something beyond dumb in the debates.


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I don't want to deflect over to Hillary, candy made a good call on that, but the rabbit hole on this Reddit discovery is crazy and the timing of these posts was right around when subpoenas were issued by congress and then soon after tens of thousands of these emails were deleted.

I should add that for the non-tech geeks, usually when things are 'deleted', they are not really deleted, it's more like hidden from view but files can still generally be retrieved. These were more scrubbed so that not even the FBI could retrieve them (it is still possible they were tracked in some other way.)



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The way I understand this, and keep in mind that I've just poked around on reddit and some of the conservative sites that have covered this, is that the emails that were deleted were supposed to be preserved, unaltered, via the subpoena from congress. Supposedly the deleted emails were deleted routinely, but if some of these guys are correct, there is blatant intent here to try to change the contents of the emails, and ultimately when that was deemed technologically unfeasible, they were scrubbed altogether.

Then there is further evidence of malice when the owner of this account has gone to great lengths to delete his internet history (on Reddit and various other sites where he shares this username). What a cluster. But if these guys are right, this discovery would go a long way to untangle the web of confusion that has been given to the American public.

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Something is funny here. I don't know what will come of it but there are a lot of people working on it and I guess we'll just see what happens.

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Just one other general comment about this whole thing: Apparently this user had some extremely embarrassing posts up on various sites. I'm not trying to shame the guy but I'm just vaguely bringing it up to give a friendly public service announcement that everything you do on the internet is out there for good. Even deleted content will be archived or cached somewhere. Just keep that in mind when you visit some shady site or make a heated post on here in a moment of passion.

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I think the source is legit. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around a fact that someone is this incredibly stupid.

After everything that has happened, I guarantee secret information will never have an electronic trail again.

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Originally Posted By: candyman92
I think the source is legit. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around a fact that someone is this incredibly stupid.

After everything that has happened, I guarantee secret information will never have an electronic trail again.

This particular case is surprising, given Combetta's position and the fact that this just got kicked off by a bunch of regular internet users searching around. It is hard to believe that Clinton's IT guy was this careless.

As far as secret information never having an electronic trial again, I have to disagree with that. People can be careless and some security considerations are very complex. That's a bad combination. This does have to be a wake up call for sure though.

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So Trump never said anything about 'racial profiling' after all. Literally never said anything about race. He made vague comments about Israel profiling when they see somebody suspicious and they bring them in.



The part about "racial" was added by Clinton News Network. I guess the actual quote, while a little dicey, wasn't potent enough. No wonder why I couldn't find a video.

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http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/black-voters-are-turning-from-clinton-to-trump-in-new-poll/

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Donald Trump is gaining support among African-American voters — whose enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton is eroding, a tracking poll released Saturday revealed.

Trump saw a 16.5 percentage-point increase in backing from African-American voters in a Los Angeles Times/University of Southern California tracking poll, up from 3.1 percent on Sept. 10 to 19.6 percent through Friday.

Meanwhile, the same poll showed Clinton’s support among that group plummeting from 90.4 percent on Sept. 10 to 71.4 percent.

Clinton’s nearly 20-point crash began Sunday, said Dan Schnur of USC. Sunday was the day Clinton was recorded collapsing while entering a Secret Service van at a 9/11 event.

The survey, which spanned through Friday, included the days in which Trump reignited the divisive “birther” issue — which critics contend is a thinly veiled attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the country’s first black president.

Late Wednesday, Trump had refused to acknowledge that President Obama was born in the United States, demurring on the topic in a Washington Post interview published the next day.

But at a bizarre press conference at Trump International, his new ­hotel in Washington, DC, on Friday, the tycoon conceded, “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period.”

For the week, the poll found a 6-point rise for Trump. The Republican is now at 47.2 percent of the vote to Clinton’s 41.2 percent.

“It’s the largest shift we’ve seen in a one-week period since we began polling in July,” Schnur said.


Expect more outrageous dishonesty from CNN and perhaps other mainstream media outlets (MSNBC anybody?) The shifts have to be disconcerting. If Trump won't say anything controversial, I guess they will just modify his quotes to reflect what they heard and not what he said.

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UPDATE: House Panel to Look Into Reddit Post That Blows Hillary Email Scandal Wide Open

Jim Hoft Sep 19th, 2016 6:00 pm

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/...mails-stripped/

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

Yeah, this has me all jacked up and I really should be getting ready for bed. Ahhh! Well if nothing else, it's a great example of media dishonesty.

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Originally Posted By: Haus
So Trump never said anything about 'racial profiling' after all. Literally never said anything about race. He made vague comments about Israel profiling when they see somebody suspicious and they bring them in.



The part about "racial" was added by Clinton News Network. I guess the actual quote, while a little dicey, wasn't potent enough. No wonder why I couldn't find a video.


Did you miss the O'reilly factor when he doubled down?

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I have not followed this all that closely. I have actually been trying to follow politics less lately but I keep getting sucked back in. I read more about the Combetta situation today than Trump's comments about profiling.

He may very well have said something controversial. I just don't know. The thing that I am upset with is the fact that we have a major, mainstream media station that literally changed his quote, perhaps in an effort to sabotage Trump's gains with minorities.

This is why I so many people don't trust the media. I actually make an effort to follow what they say but sometimes I don't even know why I bother. Usually they are more subtle than this but I guess with less than two months to go, they have to pull out all the stops to try to save Hillary. Crazy.

As far as him doubling down, if you want to link me to a video or whatever, I'll watch it tomorrow. It's too late for me right now. Or if you want to transcribe what he said or give your take on it, that would be cool too.

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Are you certain?
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Former President George H.W. Bush is bucking his party's presidential nominee and plans to vote for Hillary Clinton in November, according to a member of another famous political family, the Kennedys.



So, a democrat say's "He said it......"

Hey, you heard it here: I heard that Bill Clinton was voting for Trump.

Holds the same value as what you posted.

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The Bushes and the Clintons have become good friends over the years. This wouldn't surprise me one bit.


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Catchy headline, but like arch pointed out, that is just hearsay.

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Asked about Townsend’s post, George H.W. Bush spokesman Jim McGrath in an email replied, "The vote President Bush will cast as a private citizen in some 50 days will be just that: a private vote cast in some 50 days. He is not commenting on the presidential race in the interim."


Maybe he is voting for Hillary; maybe he isn't. I don't trust politico to be fair. This headline is misleading enough, but perhaps some have forgotten about how in the summer, politico had an agreement with the DNC to let them 'review' Clinton stories before being published. [edit: reading this businessinsider article again, they write that the agreement was with one influential reporter at Politico. It shouldn't apply to Politico as a whole.]

http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-dnc-emails-wikileaks-2016-7

Somehow I get the feeling that they don't allow Donald Trump to review and suggest edits to articles written about him.

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The email's subject line read: "per agreement ... any thoughts appreciated."

"Vogel gave me his story ahead of time/before it goes to his editors as long as I didn't share it," Paustenbach wrote in an email to Luis Miranda, the DNC's communications director.

"Let me know if you see anything that's missing and I'll push back," he added.

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so that's just hearsay, but you expect us to believe your nonsense from reddit?


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Right, because no old people do this at all.


I would say that almost none of the old folks do it on purpose. We may do it because we are not computer savvy. Heck who knows maybe the younger folks don't do it on purpose either. Maybe they just can't see their screen with all the boogers on it wink


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so that's just hearsay, but you expect us to believe your nonsense from reddit?

I'm not sure how you're even equating these two things. whatever.

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For the record, that "nonsense from reddit" has been picked up by U.S. News & World report (I posted that link yesterday) and is being investigated by the House Oversight Committee.

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how come nobody targets the polygamist in this country? i mean, the cops know who they are, right? isn't polygamy illegal? why aren't the cops doing anything about it? are they afraid?


They are to busy making pot busts to worry about polygamists.

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Haus, your boy can't keep his mouth shut. bank on it: he's gonna say something beyond dumb in the debates.


I can hear him now as Clinton goes into a coughing fit.

Hey Hillary that's what Monica did before she stained that blue dress.

As she goes into another one of her exaggerated spasms


Trump: Hey is that Hillary or Linda Blair?

As Hillary has a major seizure and falls to the ground.

Trump: She is flopping around like a fish out of water. Hey Bill get up here quick and bring some cigars. For once she will be moving while you do it.


Yep I can see it happening right now wink


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