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I'm running for President of the United States based on what I can offer the American people. When I was the Mayor of New York, the city was in a crime crisis, a budget crisis and a financial crisis. When I left office, we had turned the city around dramatically with real results.

Many of the things I did as Mayor of New York City are transferable to what America needs now. That's why today I announced my 12 commitments to you, the American people. These commitments are intended to lift our vision from the rear view mirror to the road ahead of us - the future.

My 12 commitments to the American people are:

I will keep America on offense in the Terrorists' War on Us.
I will end illegal immigration, secure our borders, and identify every non-citizen in our nation.
I will restore fiscal discipline and cut wasteful Washington spending.
I will cut taxes and reform the tax code.
I will impose accountability on Washington.
I will lead America towards energy independence.
I will give Americans more control over, and access to, healthcare with affordable and portable free-market solutions.
I will increase adoptions, decrease abortions, and protect the quality of life for our children.
I will reform the legal system and appoint strict constructionist judges.
I will ensure that every community in America is prepared for terrorist attacks and natural disasters.
I will provide access to a quality education to every child in America by giving real school choice to parents.
I will expand America's involvement in the global economy and strengthen our reputation around the world.
My focus - as it was when I ran for Mayor - is on the future. Because real leadership is focused on handing our nation to the next generation far better than it was handed to us. Today, I'm asking you and all of my fellow Americans to join me in this mission. Will you go to my website, JoinRudy2008.com, to sign my petition and show your support? I also ask that you forward this to 12 of your friends and get them to sign it as well.
Nothing energizes a government and a people better than challenging it to reform, change and improve. We can do what others thought was impossible and couldn't be accomplished. I did it as Mayor of New York City, and I can do it again in Washington.

It's a hard job and I can't do it alone. Will you join me? Please visit JoinRudy2008.com and sign my petition to show your support. Please ask 12 of your friends to sign on as well. Together, we can make this happen.

If I am elected President, I want to be held accountable for the progress we make as a nation. That is the kind of leadership I am offering. And that is why I am running for President.

Sincerely,
Rudy

Might be better than Hillery or Osamabama

A lot of very noble platitudes in his 12 commitments.. (anybody find irony in the name?).. but saying your going to do it is a far cry from turning that into a feasible plan and turning that plan into action... if I thought he could actually achieve half of those commitments, I'd probably vote for him in a heartbeat.

I like his points...but they're just empty promises as of now..what I would have liked to read was all that with "I will do this by doing this" following it..because it's nice to dream but unless you have a real solution you shouldn't make promises like that. JMO

It's a good start on the promises for Rudy, but Fred Thompson is the man. Rudy's promises can't be fulfilled in two terms let alone one.

I rarely step into the political arena, but I really like Guliani. Should Clinton/Obama pose somewhat of a threat to him, I might even re-register to vote.

Rudy is a good guy.

I don't think he hates gays enough for Republicans to back him though.

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He's a hybrid. Hopefully a "true conservative" will come into the picture. As of now,the closest thing to that is Mitt Romney.

My hope is that Fred Thompson will enter into the frey.

With a democratic congress and senate,we need a "true conservative" in the White House to bring some balance into the equasion IMO

And Rudy certainly isn't one. But I agree with you on one point,he is better than anything the Dems have to offer.

JMHO

Rudy, plain and simple...is an attention-starved egomaniac. Anyone who's lived in Manhattan extensively knows that. His only major accomplishment is cleaning up Times Square, and he put the city into financial dire straits to do so. I almost to hesitate giving him credit for 9/11 anymore, as his constant reference of it in any conversation is becoming nauseating...I used to waffle on the guy until the last debate where he acted all indignant when Ron Paul stated that opur foreign policy is the reason we were attacked on 9/11...and then it turns out the guy never read a single report on 9/11.

He'll never get the GOP nod anyway...I think Romney gets it.

On Sept. 10, 2001 Rudy was one of the country's worst Mayors, entrenched in scandal.

Now I'm supposed to believe he can run the country? Yeah right.

None of the things he claims, he can accomplish...especially:
I will end illegal immigration, secure our borders, and identify every non-citizen in our nation.

Unless he throws the consitution completely out the window and conducts a bunch of illegal searches and seizures...this will never happen.

"None of the things he claims, he can accomplish...especially:
I will end illegal immigration, secure our borders, and identify every non-citizen in our nation."

So you are expressing the belief that the Constitutional responsibilities of the federal Gov't are just "too hard" to accomplish?

We can absolutely accomplish these tasks if we decide to do them.... will it be expensive and difficult? Yes, it will be. The fence itself costs $1,000,000 per mile at 700 plus miles.
Will some NYU lawyers be unhappy with the INS and other gov't agencies? Yes, they will be but aren't they always?

Can we prevent all future undocumented aliens from entering the USA...probably not but we can sure try. Can we prevent all rapes or murders??? No, shall we not try to prevent these also?

I like Fred Thompson too, but he has Lymphoma. From what I have read and heard, his type of Lymphoma has a relatively high 5-year fatality rate - approaching 40%.

Rudy would get my vote if he were to somehow get the nomination. His strongest issues, IMO, are national security and the terrorists' war on us ... those are at the top of my concerns. Probably doesn't matter, because I doubt he gets the nomination - and if he does, he probably wouldn't win because conservative turnout would be low. Too many crash-and-burn pro-lifers who would rather lose than compromise their beliefs re: abortion.

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My opinion of Rudy is based on his actions as Mayor of New York both pre- and post-9/11. He made a hell-hole of a city liveable again by taking on crime - both the Mafia and the street gangs before the attack. He provided leadership and a sense of order and calm to a panicked mega-metropolis as soon as was possible after the attack.

Critics of Giuliani say he is ruthless and employs a take-no-prisoners style in his attempts to achieve his goals ... this is not necessarily a drawback, especially in a long war with rabid Islamo-fascism, IMO. Call it the "Chicago way" Sean Connery talked about in The Untouchables: "... they send one of yours to the hospital, you send two of theirs to the morgue.".

My opinion is based on his words, my perception of his attitude towards threats to our national security, and the record and successes he has as mayor of the largest city in the country. You can think I'm FOS or overly simplistic, its okay, but thats my opinion.

People thought Ronald Reagan was an overly simplistic, amiable idiot when he was asked what his strategy for the Cold War was ... "We win, they lose.", he said. He was right. The same approach is needed now in the WOT. There is no negotiating with this enemy; we are way past the point of going to the U.N. ... and I think only Rudy and a couple other Republican candidates grasp this.

Rudy is ok... i hate when politicians promise stuff because 99% of the time it's a load of crap... plus they all promise the same things


I like Fred Thompson the best.... but who knows...

It might be interesting to find out who you are pulling for Phil. Give us a name of somebody you like, not somebody we never heard of but somebody that really has a chance. Remember Stalin and Lenin are dead.

I don't think I plan to cast a vote amongst this sorry lot, but there are only two candidates I've seen who appear to answer the questions they're given and explain them concisely: Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Now I don't think that I'd really care to vote for either as president, but at least I know where they stand.

I've wanted Colin Powell to run for years, but I think he's smart enough not to.

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Too many crash-and-burn pro-lifers who would rather lose than compromise their beliefs re: abortion.

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Think so? I've always felt republicans and especially people on the far right vote no matter what, they're die hard as hell. That's why I never understood the repubs pushiing people to vote, most of the people who don't vote would vote dem anyway.

They'd rather have anyone than a dem in the office.

Of course I could be completely wrong as it's really my own speculation

I could be wrong, but my perception is that Dems close ranks pretty well at election time and support their party's candidate, although I would concede that Green party types probably cost Gore the election by voting for Nader in Florida in 2000. But it was nothing like the mass exodus of conservative Republican voters in 1992 after the first President Bush violated his "no new taxes" pledge. Huge blocs of conservatives either stayed home or voted Perot that year - Perot got 16% of the vote and Clinton won going away with around 44-45%. Or for more recent results, look at the 2006 congressional elections ... it wasn't that America endorsed the likes of Nancy Pelosi and friends, it was just that the right wing of the Republican party could no longer tell the difference between Pelosi and so-called Republicans and so just sat the election out.

I can't stand Rudy. He has some of the same character flaws that I hated in Clinton. I know people believe you can seperate personal from business but I have a hard time supporting anyone who shows a complete lack of respect for his family.