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That's all based on Nielsen ratings 40. I did that for 5 years, was a Nielsen family. It only tracks TVs.

This is also only the big networks which does not include RT, TYT or many of the other more relevant news sources for young people. I'm not saying all young people get their news online and don't watch Fox; just the smart ones.

Seriously though, among those that watch cable news fox does have a huge viewership. I'll glady give you that.

But TYT Network kills ALL of them online. They get 5-10 million views daily. No cable network even comes close to that.

I kind of laughed at the facebook mention by him. Most millennials left facebook after the great parent migration of 2009. They're on snap chat, Instagram, and twitter.

Twist it any way you want, even lie to yourself but these numbers are not based on Nielsen ratings...

On the social media front, Fox News was the No. 1 brand on Facebook for engagement, capturing 206 million likes, shares and comments during 2015, according to analytics firm Shareablee. Additionally, FNC finished as the the top brand on Twitter (8 million actions), Instagram (3 million actions) as well as Facebook in engagement among all television news outlets.

We have Presidential Candidates who are running for the status quo and those running against it.

Millennials must keep in mind if the status quo continues taking us down the path it has been, when Mom and Dad lose their house you will be sleeping on the couch in their cave or under their tarp.

Choose wisely.

jc

Friendly reminder to all that the Vice Presidential debate is tonight at 9pm Eastern. This will be the only VP debate. Pence and Kaine really don't get enough discussion but the VP will certainly have an effect on policy in office, and the VP is just one bad day from becoming president himself. That's just something to keep in mind and probably more relevant this year due to the age of the presidential candidates.

Using FB makes me sad. Seeing my age appropriate friends use FB is even sadder.

Or possible Prison sentences for some.

I'm simply posting this to "one up" Eve's craziness that Hillary is a lesbian. lmao

Rape Allegations Refiled Against Trump

MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims.
The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her.
Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity.
The original complaint was accompanied by two declarations.
The first declaration, signed by Jane Doe herself, detailed Trump's alleged "savage sexual attack" on the then-13-year-old plaintiff.
The second declaration was signed by pseudonymous Tiffany Doe, who said she was hired by Jeffrey Epstein throughout the 1990s to recruit adolescent women to attend the billionaire's parties.
Tiffany Doe claims she convinced the then-13-year-old plaintiff to attend the parties as a means to break in to New York's professional modeling world. In her declaration, Tiffany Doe says she witnessed four sexual encounters in which Jane Doe was forced to have sex with Trump, and two encounters involving the plaintiff and Jeffrey Epstein.
The Tiffany Doe declaration included Epstein's threats against her and her family for disclosing the details of any sexual abuse of minors by Epstein and his party guests, swearing under penalty of perjury that she understands that her and her family's lives are "now in grave danger."
The new complaint includes an additional witness exhibit from an anonymous "Joan Doe" whose sworn declaration says Jane Doe told her what happened with Trump and Epstein during the 1994-1995 school year.
Jane Doe says she has been subjected to painful daily reminders of the alleged assault due to the tremendous about of media coverage Trump's presidential campaign has received since he announced his candidacy in mid-June 2015.
Representatives of Trump and his campaign could not immediately be reached for comment on Friday. However, two weeks ago Alan Garten, executive vice president and general counsel for the Trump Organization, told Courthouse News via email that Jane Doe's allegations "are completely frivolous and appear to be politically motivated."
He also went on to say the Trump Organization warned her lawyer, New Jersey attorney Thomas Meagher, "that in the event he decides to refile his complaint we will seek to have him sanctioned."
Perhaps in anticipation of such a move, a second attorney has joined the lawsuit, J. Cheney Mason of Florida.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/09/30/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump.htm

I mean check out Google Eve. It must be true.

For some reason my post was duplicated.

Sounds like Trump.

That's an unwinnable case because it's physically impossible for Trump to penetrate...

Donald Trump Urges Voters to Watch a Sex Tape


by Andy Towle
September 30, 2016 | 8:43am
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Donald Trump

Donald Trump has become completely unhinged over Alicia Machado, the former Miss Universe brought up by Hillary Clinton in Monday night’s debate.

Said Clinton in the debate:

And one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. He loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them. And he called this woman “Miss Piggy.” Then he called her “Miss Housekeeping,” because she was Latina. Donald, she has a name…Her name is Alicia Machado….And she has become a U.S. citizen, and you can bet… she’s going to vote this November.

Following the debate, Machado has been used as a surrogate by the Clinton campaign and hit the cable news networks and television shows.

As Politico notes, “Trump has taken the bait.”

In a series of tweets last night starting at 3:20 am, Trump lashed out about Machado, urging the public to check out a “sex tape” she allegedly made:

“Anytime you see a story about me or my campaign saying “sources said,” DO NOT believe it. There are no sources, they are just made up lies!…Wow, Crooked Hillary was duped and used by my worst Miss U. Hillary floated her as an “angel” without checking her past, which is terrible!…Using Alicia M in the debate as a paragon of virtue just shows that Crooked Hillary suffers from BAD JUDGEMENT! Hillary was set up by a con… Did Crooked Hillary help disgusting (check out sex tape and past) Alicia M become a U.S. citizen so she could use her in the debate?

But there is no sex tape, according to Politico:

The day after Monday’s debate, Trump admitted to Fox News that Clinton’s bringing his history with Machado into the race had gotten under his skin, calling her “the worst we ever had” as a Miss Universe winner because “she gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem.” In the days since, Trump and his surrogates have sought to further discredit her by bringing up a nearly two-decade old attempted murder investigation in which Machado was never charged and accusing her of starring in pornographic films.

While Machado has starred in risqué reality TV programs and posed nude for the Mexican version of Playboy magazine, the Daily Beast and other outlets that investigated the claim found no evidence that she has starred in any pornographic films and that the clips posted online actually feature another woman.

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/09/donald-trump-sex-tape/

Old news. If an irrational 13 yr old would do it, you can expect Trump to do it at 4 am on twitter. Case closed.

Sorry, but stopped reading right there because that is simply not at all true.

j/c

PTSD A Weakness In Veterans? I Don't Think So, Mr. Trump

Donald Trump seems to be looking for the last corners of the human population that he has yet to insult, and today he turned his schoolyard bully brain on U.S. veterans who have post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). In comments to the Retired American Warriors PAC in Virginia, Trump said:

When people come back from war and combat, and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can’t handle it.

The implication, of course, is that people who are not strong—i.e., who are weak, at least in Trump’s world—can’t handle it, and they develop PTSD. That’s not how PTSD arises, and it’s not associated with some phantom concept of psychological or mental weakness. It’s a pretty typical response to trauma of many different types, but Trump doesn’t seem to know much about that.

After all, this is coming from a guy whose entire experience with combat consisted of getting five deferments during the Vietnam era. One of them was for “bone spurs” in his heels, a condition that didn’t seem to stop him from participating in several sports.

He claimed that his doctor at the time wrote a “very strong letter” about the spurs that excused him from facing what so many not-rich, not-daddy-supported, not-deferred men his age went through in that period. That “strong” letter was the only strong thing ever involving Donald Trump and military service.

Perhaps he himself suffers from some kind of shame from that deferment, particularly after he had to weather the storm that rained down on his strangely coiffed head once his excuse came to light. Perhaps it is a sense of shame that has led him to attack John McCain as a “loser” for having been a prisoner of war, wage a public, non-life-threatening battle on a Gold Star family, and now assert that combat veterans with PTSD lack strength.

This, again, from a man whose greatest strength challenge to date has been keeping away from Twitter in the middle of the night, a challenge he has repeatedly failed to meet.

In insulting the people who have returned from combat scarred and traumatized, as you might think many many people would be, Trump insults the 11-20% of veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan who have PTSD in any year, the 12% of Gulf War vets who do and the 15% of Vietnam War vets who do. And that doesn’t even include the returning veterans who had what we once called “shell shock” following on their experiences in the World Wars and Korea.

Indeed, shell shock used to be considered demeaning and “unmasculine,” something to hide because it suggested a “feminine” weakness in the face of unimaginable horror. Trump, who favors insults from the Little Rascals era and whose ideal America would exclude everyone who wouldn’t fit in on a Leave It to Beaver set, has once again tried to turn back the clock to a time when men were men, women were women and society completely ignored the mental health of its combat veterans. There is no stigma too irrational, too old for Trump to try to resurrect in the name of “making America great again.”

Today, PTSD is so common that the U.S. government has a national center devoted to the subject, largely for veterans and their families and friends. It is so serious that the suicide rate among veterans is twice that of the general population. And it is so prevalent that Veterans Affairs cannot meet the needs of those veterans who need help.

With as many as one in five veterans of recent wars having PTSD in any given year, this is a system overwhelmed, and the last thing anyone involved in it needs is insults and stigmatizing from a man who can’t do battle with his own id and win.

Donald Trump has no more idea than a poodle—actually, poodles may have a better idea—of what it’s like to face death in combat, directly cause death, see atrocities and huge numbers of casualties, and wake up the next day to face it again. And then to come home to a society that at times has dismissed your body’s reaction to this ongoing stress and shock and at times dismissed you or even mocked you.

It’s important to keep in mind as well that many of these veterans had more PTSD risk factors in their histories than only participation in combat. Yet in spite of these histories, carrying scars much deeper than anything a bone spur can do, they marched to war. And they came home with more scars, physical and non-physical, that are associated with PTSD.

Donald Trump is obsessed with the idea of strength, mostly assuming his own superiority compared to anyone else. He has three categories of insults, grouped under disgust (favorite terms: disgusting, terrible), playground taunts from the 1930s (frequent appearances: crooked, phony), and accusations of weakness (faves: lightweight, no stamina, weak, failing).

Any time he seems to perceive that he himself compares unfavorably to someone (women, the Obamas, John McCain, the Clintons and in this case, veterans—oh, how his deferments must eat at him), he trots out something from one of these three categories. His go-to category when he’s feeling belittled by comparison to veterans is the “weakness” column. He called John McCain a “loser” for being a POW. And now he has called veterans with PTSD are people who “can’t handle it,” implying that they are weak.

Of course, Trump is the real weakling here. He’s too weak to make himself shut his mouth, he’s too weak to keep himself from roostering up and becoming churlish and defensive at the slightest hint that he’s wrong or lying, he’s too weak to rein in his inner toddler and stop himself from throwing verbal tantrums over every perceived slight, and he’s too weak to have ever developed the mental and intellectual discipline required to head a superpower.

One thing that Trump engages in compulsively is projection—the act of ascribing to others traits that you see in yourself but don’t want to acknowledge—and so he hurls insults about weakness and suggests by contrast that he is, in his own favorite words: Terrific. Strong.

But this shtick is tired. If you’re tired of our nation’s leading embodiment of a middle school bully hurling insults at veterans, please consider (a) not donating to his campaign and (b) donating to one of several highly rated charities that support veterans, instead.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywilling...p/#625bb26f5fee

And yet, some think he never says anything about those that are is opponents or those that enter the political arena.



Haus

For me, the PTSD thing is just another in a long line of "stupid"..

Here's a thought: Have you listened to the whole speech he gave, the 2 minutes or so, about PTSD?

If not, perhaps you should.

I did. And when he said some could handle it and some were weak and couldn't, I thought "Idiot."

But, if you listen to the whole thing, with an open mind, he makes some points. Some people can handle it, some can't. It in NO way makes some strong, or some weak. It makes them individuals.

He also went on to say he want's better treatment for those that have it.

Again, if you take just the one or 2 sentences - he looks terrible. If you take his entire conversation in, he doesn't.

Did you actually listen to Trump's full, unedited response or did you just accept at face value what some biased news outlet reported? It is clear that Trump was trying to be helpful for those who have PTSD.

Here is what Chad Robichaux, the marine whose question Donald Trump answered that sparked this "controversy", had to say:


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/3/military-veteran-defends-trump-blasts-media/

The quote is the truth which can't be disputed. However, if someone wants to speculate on exactly what the "implication" is then, of course, they can write an entire article on their opinion, their implication, on what he meant by his statement.

This is the manner in which a lot of Trump "negatives" gets reported. Trump speaks, someone decides for themselves what he implied by that and then they go to town on the straw man they created.

From about 4 weeks ago:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/data-po...-voters-n643501

good points

Trump does have a way of phrasing controversial things somewhat ambiguously. Part of that is probably just a way to get some more air time, but there are some people who always seem to jump at the worst possible interpretation of his remarks. I wish people would wait until things were clarified before lashing out (in this instance, ask the marine whose question was answered, it is clear he took the comments in a positive light) but that is probably too much to ask for at this point.

If you don't have the intelligence to say things in a fashion that leaves so much to the imagination, what does that really tell you?

I don't believe anyone can excuse him for making fun of a disabled reporter, making rude comments about a beauty pageant winners weight, or many other stupid thing he's said. People keep trying to make excuses for them but there really aren't any.

one more: http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-didnt-say-vets-with-ptsd-are-weak/

Pit loves everything anti Trump but also turns away when Hillary lies.

Hillary in action...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHO1vo762c

Didn't NBC fire Brian Williams for lying about the same stuff?

What would you estimate the value of the free reporting/advertising that Trump has received due to making unclear statements that could potentially be offensive. Would it be an exaggeration to say that he has received more than one billion dollars worth of media coverage due to phrasing things in a fashion that leaves so much to the imagination?

I listened to what Trump said and even though it was poorly worded you could tell he meant no disrespect to the vets.

I don't know it just seems weird to me, lol. You can call me old fashion, but I like to have the comforts of my own home around me, food, drink that don't cost extra, all while watching TV. I can watch minor clips, articles on my phone or tablet, but for anything else that screen is just too small for me.

From the link Haus posted, Trumps ENTIRE quote...

Former congressman and retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Allen West was present at the event and strongly disputed media accounts of the exchange, which began with a question from a Retired American Warriors town hall attendee:

"Good morning Mr. Trump. As you mentioned there is a tragic suicide epidemic among our veterans, among our military and their families. While the military and the V.A. are working on the problem, their efforts continue to fall short. There are a number of faith-based programs outside the DOD and the V.A., that are continuing to be successful in stopping suicide and divorce rates.

Spiritual fitness works on these types of problems. The government is not taking advantage of these programs and services. So my question for you is, when you become president, will you support and fund a more holistic approach to solve the problems and issues of veteran suicide, PTSD, TBI and other related military mental and behavioral health issues and will you take steps to restore the historic role of our Chaplains and the importance of spiritual fitness and spiritual resiliency programs?"

Trump's complete response focused largely on committing to an increase in veterans' services, not on deriding disabled veterans. He indeed flattered "folks in this room" for being "strong," but he also expressed empathy at length for those military personnel who had experienced "horror stories" which "nobody would believe":

Yes I would. Look we need that so badly and when you ... when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it. And they see horror stories. They see events that you couldn’t see in a movie, nobody would believe it.

Now we need a mental health help and medical. And it’s one of the things that I think is least addressed and is one of the things that — like your question — one of the things that I hear the most about when I go around and talk to the veterans. So we’re going to have a very, very robust, level of performance having to do with mental health. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care.

You know when you hear the 22 suicides a day it’s a big part of your question. But when you hear the 22 suicides a day that should never be. That should never be. So we’re going to be addressing that very strongly and the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue when I take over and the V.A. is going to be fixed in so many ways but that’s going to be one of the ways we’re going to help.

And that’s in many respects going to be the number one thing we have to do. Because I think it’s really been left behind. OK? Thank you very much."

So Trump said he is live tweeting the debate. That might be more entertaining that the debate.

If I had it, I'd pay a million dollars to hear a phrase uttered by Donald Trump that wasn't poorly worded.

Oh my God.

He doesn't know how to stop.

Pence and Kaine are more likeable than the 2 candidates. You won't agree with them policy wise, but they're not corrupt jackasses.

Yeah, if you're going to try to be 'presidential', don't run your mouth while your running mate is on the stage.

Pence is a shrimp.

I forgot Kaine was a missionary.

Hey, Kaine name dropping education. I like that.

Pence has better hair.

Pence has too much makeup on. He looks like he is made of plastic.

Both these 2 have a brutal job. Making their running mates look like human beings.

Kaine with the mud slinging.

Just avoid talking about the Ukraine, Pence. That's a losing topic.