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These post are the most confusing of all.

You and others cry about the candidates...yet you're still gonna vote for either one.

If you truly felt that way, then either stay at home or vote Gary. But you defending trump kinda makes you're credibility sink like the titanic when you go on your crusade of acting like both candidates are terrible.

They are both terrible. As I said all along most people are going to vote for who they think is the least of the two evils.

This election could not have shaped up any better for Paul Ryan. In 2020 he gets to come in like a white knight and "save" the Republican Party from Hillary.

Maybe.

But conservative voters seem to not care that much for center right candidates. Pence is more far right, which is why a lot of pundits already have him as the front runner come 2020.

Hell, he may be the front runner in 2016....for both parties.

I am enjoying reading the moral outrage posted by the Liberals and Progressives on here, quite refreshing, quite new.

So now we are all left with a choice between a man who treated women as sex objects and a woman who enabled her rapist husband, who was President at the time, as she attacked his victims like they were the criminals.

Trump has been accused of sexual assault too.

Yeah, we better not just throw out baseless accusations before Trump really gets pulled.

With those hands, c'mon.

Savage

Mike is keeping Trumps chances alive.

I honestly think that the RNC posting the 'post-debate' analysis before the debate was a brilliant move. I think that pressed Kaine to be overly aggressive.

You guys hear that sound? That's the sound of a bus running over Trump, as Pence just threw his ass right under it lmaoo

'I was offended': Mike Pence breaks his silence on Donald Trump's vulgar comments about women

http://www.businessinsider.com/pence-trump-comments-women-video-billy-bush-2016-10

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence said on Saturday that he was “offended” by his running mate Donald Trump’s recently surfaced vulgar remarks about women, but suggested Sunday’s debate might offer him a platform to “show what is in his heart.”

“As a husband and a father, I was offended by the words and actions described by Donald Trump in the 11-year-old video released yesterday,” Pence said in a statement. “I do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them.”

Pence’s comments come on the heels of The Washington Post publishing a hot-mic moment in which Trump boasted about kissing and groping women. At the time, Trump said he could “grab” women “by the p---y” because “when you’re a star, they let you do it.”

Trump apologized for the remarks in a video published just after midnight on Saturday, but also signaled he’d fight back attacks by pointing to former President Bill Clinton’s history with women.

“I am grateful that he has expressed remorse and apologized to the American people,” Pence said. “We pray for his family and look forward to the opportunity he has to show what is in his heart when he goes before the national tomorrow night.”


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An avalanche of prominent Republicans, including House Speaker Paul Ryan and party chairman Reince Priebus, have condemned Trump’s comments.

Some Republicans, including No. 3 Senate Republican John Thune of South Dakota, have gone as far as to call on the billionaire to step down as the nominee and hand the ticket over to Pence. Trump said in a Saturday interview with The Post that he would not step down, despite such calls.

Pence was originally scheduled to fill in for Trump at a Saturday event with Ryan. It was later announced Pence would not appear.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-l...-141929683.html

a laundry list of republicans, including romney and cruz, condeming his comments.

and boy oh boy, all those republican leadership asking this guy to step down.

debate night is gonna be so fun. God is good y'all!!

Quite interesting that the Repubs have the balls to step up and say their candidate was wrong, and even jump ship. I like it!

What is even more interesting is that most Dems continue to ignore or attempt to justify steel dragon's comments, behaviors, indiscretions and lies.

This identifies those to me who really can be objective and see what may be in the best interest of the American people and who cannot.

That being said, it is interesting to me that some of these holier than thou political figures, probably doing and saying similar things to what Trump has said and done find it appropriate to ridicule and chastise him. That's really funny!

And to all who tolerate lack of respect, values and morality in society, please do not complain about our choices in this election. Live in the gutter, deal with the slime and low morality that is borne there.

Thus, I give you our two presidential candidates.

Dems lack the fortitude or balls to step up and condemn steel dragon's harm to this country. All while they recruit illegals and criminals to vote for their candidate. No surprise here!

I just have to wonder why Republicans drew the line at "Grab her by the..." instead of anything else he said. Is "Grab her by the..." really that more disrespectful than saying he could shoot someone and not lose votes, telling voters to check out a porn tape, calling hispanics rapists and murderers. It's kinda funny how this drew the line.

j/c

Here's what I find so amusing. The GOP claims to be the voice of Evangelical Christians. The Democrats don't. The GOP claims that the "takers", (I'm not sure if they're talking about those on welfare or billionaires who don't pay taxes are who they are referring to... Never mind, yes I do.), are awful. They preach that family values are the core of their beliefs. It's this mantle they stand upon.

Yet so many of their ranks support a man who is the total opposite of that. A man who shares basically none of those values. Who has cheated on both of his first two wives and we can see the comments he made when married to the third.

Now, instead of addressing these facts, they wish to compare him to someone they despised in the first place. Someone they never felt stood up for their values. Compare him to the other candidate which has always been a terrible candidate from the start.

Try selling to your daughters, your granddaughters and family how you can support a candidate who has said all of these nasty things. Don't try to say how much worse the other candidate is, simply explain why you would support YOUR candidate. Let's face it, other than saying you believe he's the lesser of two evils, you can't.

He can't stand on his own merit any more than Hillary can.

Ehhhhhhh, doesn't really change anything for me. Sounds like a private conversation he was having and joking around. If you've never heard anything similar to that then you've never been around guys when they're being kidding around. It is funny to watch others over react about it though, like they've never said something similar to the statements. If you ask me, we have a bunch of hypocrites on our hands.

"To-day is the parent of to-morrow. The present casts its shadow far into the future. That is the law of life, individual and social. Revolution that divests itself of ethical valuesthereby lays the foundation of injustice, deceit, and oppression for the future society. The means used to prepare the future become its cornerstone. Witness the tragic condition of Russia. The methods of State centralization have paralysed individual initiative and effort;the tyranny of the dictatorship has cowed the people into slavish submission and all but extinguished the fires of liberty; organized terrorism has depraved and brutalized the masses and stifled every idealistic aspiration; institutionalized murder has cheapened human life,and all sense of the dignity of man and the value of life has been eliminated; coercion at everystep has made effort bitter, labour a punishment, has turned the whole of existence into a scheme of mutual deceit, and has revived the lowest and most brutal instincts of man. A sorry heritage to begin a new life of freedom and brotherhood."

-- Emma Goldman My Further Disillusionment in Russia

This is so true and funny. Are folks in PA removing their Trump signs after Fridays revelation Cjrae?

Its because they are sheep.

Sheep are the people following someone who actually stands for nothing they really believe in. That's describes both Democrats and Republicans. After listenning to everything Trump has said, how can you pretend you hold some kind of moral high ground here? You really can't.

He wasn't kidding around, he was bragging. He's a pig.

I haven't said anything close to this since I was in a high school locker room.

Next month I will be 58, the approximate age Trump was when he said these things. There is no way I would say these things now or even in decades past.

I couldn't imagine trying to explain why or how to my daughter or granddaughters how I could endorse a man who made such statements, who also had cheated on his first two wives and made these statements while married to his third wife.

He is the opposite of everything I've taught them a man should be.

idk man, I really haven't had a conversation about sexually assaulting or harassing women, since high school. And when I have heard those conversations, I put an end to them rather quickly. When almost every other woman is sexually assaulted, it's time to put and end to it. They are humans too. And the excuse that, boys will be boys can no longer be applied to situations. Especially in cases of a 30 year old and a 50 year old. Enough is enough.

I can have a moral high ground because I am voting for neither Trump nor Clinton.

I can not, and will not, vote for Clinton.

I can not, and will not, vote for Trump.

I can not, and will not, vote for Johnson.

I can not, and will not, vote for Stein.

I have finally decided how I am voting. I am writing in "None of the above, not under any circumstances."

He wasn't "kidding around." He was boasting.

Dude... it's not just what he said.
He actually DID this crap.... and then he bragged about it.

Have YOU ever walked up to a woman and done something like this? I know I haven't.

I've been telling you people what a pig he is since this election cycle began. All I get back is "yeah, but Hillary..." Well, now you have your evidence. He's worse than you thought, isn't he?


This isn't "trumped-up" outrage on my part. I really am as disgusted as I sound.

Believe me.

But if Hillary defended him, enabled him, and called those women pigs, you would have nothing, nothing, to say on the matter.

Who you think you are fooling here?

Hey swish, think Ted is wishing he'd have held off on that endorsement a couple more weeks?

AAAAAnnnnnd those of you on the left wonder why we on the right have resisted going as left as we have all these years?

This is exactly why we stand for what we stand for!

No, I knew he was this bad. Given his public life, I'm not surprised that these things have come to light about what happens behind the scenes.

She was stupid for defending him.
She should have dumped his ass years ago.


I hope this satisfies you.

Ha! very mildly put.

No comment on how Hillary turned on those rape victims of her husbands and made them out to be the bad guys?

This is the Candidate who thinks she represents women. She could care less about those "Deplorables".

lol no doub. Man oh man it looks really bad for him

And you on the right wonder why we have dissociated ourselves with Russia. Trotsky knew they were command economies. Emma Goldman knew they were saturated with corruption and wrongness, so early on. Many communists don't even care for Karl Marx, let alone a sociopath like Lenin or Stalin.

But yo, the comment goes both way. You cannot grow an uncompromised society by being even the tiny bit compromise.

And now we're here, where we have two of the largest sociopaths, both corrupt beyond all recognition and we think either will lead us anywhere but down? Ha.

A: Don't matter how far you distance yourself from Russia, you think those in power won't be like that?

B: Don't take me for a Trump supporter, I've been against him since he announced.

A: If the people are powerful then there will be no harm. If people are powerful, there will be harm.

B: I didn't think you were. I'm just saying the blade cuts both ways. Don't think other systems and ideologies are immune to this criticism.

I'm curious as to what Kellyanne is going to do. She has done a tremendous job given what she's had to deal with.