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Interesting. I hadn't seen this before. Oh, and I hope that the 1st line was just a typo .....

Hue Jackson defends bringing in Art Briles to help with Browns offense: 'We've all been knocked down before' | cleveland.com
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BEREA, Ohio - Former Browns coach Hue Jackson defended his decision Wednesday to bring in fired Baylor coach Art Briles as a guest to help out with the offense.

"I've gotten to know Coach Briles and I think he's a tremendous offensive-minded football coach,'' Jackson said Wednesday. "I'm always looking for different ways of doing things and preparing things and, again, what happened at Baylor's at Baylor.''

Briles was fired by Baylor in May amid the sexual assault scandal involving several members of the Bears' football team. Briles has apologized that it happened on his watch, but maintains his innocence.

On Wednesday, he donned Browns' coaching garb and took part in meetings and practice. During the early open portion of practice, Briles observed the quarterbacks and interacted with them.

Jackson said Briles will be around a little longer, but not for an extended period of time.

"I respect what you're saying (about character) and understand that trail, but, at the same time, I think everybody deserves an opportunity to do what they do,'' said Jackson. "I respect everybody's feeling and I don't condone anything or not, but that's not for me to judge. Again, the opportunity to pick his brain and to have him be around and talk to him and get to know him outside of all of that in a different capacity is what was important to me.''

Jackson consulted with upper management before bringing Briles in. He was also here on Aug. 2 visiting his former Baylor Bears on the team such as Robert Griffin III, Corey Coleman, and Spencer Drango. Josh Gordon was also with the team at the time.

"I asked, 'Is it OK for him to be here with me as my guest?''' Jackson said. "And I got the OK. It was a good conversation with our people here and I think they understood where I was coming from, so I don't want to make it seem like I'm trying to extend the olive branch. I'm trying to learn some other things that I think are good, but also getting to know somebody on a whole different level which I think is a good thing, not a bad thing.''

By the same token, Jackson has always expressed gratitude for the people such as Marvin Lewis who threw him a lifeline along the way. Briles has been out of football since he got fired, but told cleveland.com he hoped to be back in the game by December.

"I know it can be seen that way, but I truly believe that Coach is going to get back to doing what he does at some point in time,'' said Jackson. "We've all been kind of knocked down before, I have too. I've been unfairly judged before and judged correctly, too. I try not to do that with people. I try to take people for face value and who they are and what they are, and I just know I've met him and have talked to him extensively and I think, again, whatever's happened at Baylor, I'm not condoning or him being here says that we condone anything.''

Jackson acknowledged the organization's strong stance on high character, but said it's not for him to judge Briles.

"This happened at a different time and not here, so I can't judge that,'' he said. "I understand everybody has an opinion about it, but I get to judge here and what goes on here in our building and I don't think those things have affected our building that way. Nothing happened here. I have to be able to judge by my relationship with him and what he's here doing for me now and that's what's important.''

Jackson stressed that he wanted to learn some things about offense from Briles, who ran a high-powered spread at Baylor. If Griffin gets back on the field, Briles will especially be able to help with how to use him, but he'll be useful with the other quarterbacks too.

"The guy's a tremendous offensive mind,'' said Jackson. "I think we all recognize that. If we recognize nothing else, he's that. Just to learn some other things and hear some other things that I wanted to know and understand a little bit better is what this is truly all about.''

Briles' guest stint was foreshadowed after his visit in August when he received high praise from Jackson. The seeds may have even been planted then.

"Hey, I'll learn from anybody if they can help us,'' Jackson said then. "Obviously, he's a very accomplished college coach and has done outstanding. I wish him well. He's done just outstanding at Baylor, but at the same time, I think he was here to see his guys and get an opportunity to see us, our organization and what we do.''

In an interview last month with ESPN's Tom Rinaldi, Briles said, "There were some bad things that happened under my watch. And for that, I'm sorry. ... I was wrong. I'm sorry. I'm going to learn. I'm going to get better."

Interesting that there was much ado made of the Baylor Bunch before the season and now not a single one is capable of contributing. Not one.

Yeah. Drango is probably doing the most as an extra blocker on certain run plays.

We certainly are enamored with Baylor as of the last few years ... hasn't paid many dividends yet

didn't Corey Coleman have a 104 yards rec. and 2 TD's against the Rats?

Hey, what ever happened to Ocho Cinco. Last I heard he took time off to tell his daughter he wouldn't be home to see her run track or something, but he was coming back to work with Hue some more. Did he? Is he still hanging around or was that the end of it?

Not sure but I really enjoyed ESPN's "A Football Life" episodes on him and TO.

Basically, he found out how much time and how little fun/attention coaches get .. and he bolted

yup I believe he found out how many hours a day coaches put in.

Problem is the Talent not the plays, or system

I am disappointed that the team would bring in a person with Art Briles past in to "help" the team.

I don't expect this to last long. The callers on the local sports stations were roasting Hue and the Browns for this. It is not going over well. People losing respect for Hue.

For a guy to preach culture change and accountability and then to bring in Briles, it isn't a good look.

A move like this also tells me how desperate Hue is to try and do anything to get a win.

This organization can't help but step in it.

Like you say, pretty disappointing.

Someone educate me...what is Art Briles past?

IIRC he's very well known in the Texas area for being a dominant high school/college coach when it comes to tempo, spread, and offensive innovation. He won like multiple HS state titles and completely turned around Baylor very quickly.

The Browns should want nothing to do with former Baylor coach Art Briles -- Dan Labbe


By Dan Labbe, cleveland.com
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on October 12, 2016 at 5:39 PM, updated October 12, 2016 at 10:24 PM
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BEREA, Ohio – Former Baylor head coach Art Briles stood on the Browns practice field fully decked out in the team's gear on Wednesday. He was here as a guest of head coach Hue Jackson's.

It was, at the least, not a good look for Jackson or the Browns.

"What happened at Baylor's at Baylor," Jackson said following practice on Wednesday.

Frankly, what is alleged to have happened at Baylor, as outlined in a report by the law firm Pepper Hamilton on the school's handling of sexual assault cases, is disgusting. The final line of the summary of the report read: "Pepper's findings also reflect significant concerns about the tone and culture within Baylor's football program as it relates to accountability for all forms of athlete misconduct."

[Read the report summary here]

Briles eventually reached a contract settlement with Baylor after threatening to sue the school for wrongful termination.

The Browns as an organization should shudder at the sight of one of the men fired in the fallout from the allegations outlined in the report standing on their field wearing their gear.





Jackson, especially, should have second thoughts about bringing Briles in as a guest. He has, since the day he announced that the team was moving on from quarterback Johnny Manziel at the combine in February, taken a strong stance in regards to character.

"Our organization is going to take a stand, and we're going to move on from those kind of situations as we move forward," Jackson said on Feb. 24.

Wednesday, that talk came with a caveat.

"A strong stance with the people within our organization," Jackson clarified when asked about his previous comments. "This happened at a different time and not here, so I can't judge that."

That's a pretty big exception.

"I understand everybody has an opinion about it, but I get to judge here and what goes on here in our building and I don't think those things have affected our building that way. Nothing happened here," Jackson added.

Simply calling it a bad look doesn't do this justice. In a year stressing culture change – a year where they have moved on from the likes of Manziel, who was under investigation following an altercation with his ex-girlfriend at the time – in a year where there are so many young players, the Browns as an organization have opened up their doors to one of football's most controversial figures. They've trotted him onto their practice field. They've decked him out in brown and orange.

Art Briles and everything that comes with that name is now [censored] organization, an organization that boasts a co-owner in Dee Haslam who serves on the league's conduct committee.

"I've talked this through with our upper management because I asked, 'Is it OK for him to be here with me as my guest?'" Jackson said. "And I got the OK. It was a good conversation with our people here and I think they understood where I was coming from, so I don't want to make it seem like I'm trying to extend the olive branch."

No one is arguing that Briles isn't a great offensive mind. Maybe, some day, Briles will get a second chance. Whether he deserves one can be debated then.

"Whatever's happened at Baylor, I'm not condoning," Jackson said, "or him being here says that we condone anything."

His presence may not mean they condone what was alleged at Baylor. It certainly appears they are tone-deaf to it, though.

I don't follow College ball at all... so it should come as no surprise that I don't really understand the details of this issue.

Not defending, but it appears that Hue wanted something out of this guy, asked for permission and the org said ok..who knows what stipulations if any they placed on this temp hire.

I meant the bad stuff.

Pick his brain and keep it moving..

Some background..why he fired by Baylor...



Baylor to fire coach Art Briles after 8 seasons

Mark Schlabach
ESPN Senior WriterMay 28, 2016
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Baylor football coach Art Briles has been suspended with intent to terminate, part of major changes the university announced Thursday in response to a scathing review of its handling of sexual assault allegations made against students, including several football players.

In addition, Kenneth Starr no longer will serve as Baylor president, although he will remain at the school. In a statement issued later Thursday, Starr apologized to the "victims who were not treated with the care, concern and support they deserve."

Baylor's actions come after the university's board of regents received anindependent report from a law firm that investigated the school's response to the allegations.

"We were horrified by the extent of these acts of sexual violence on our campus. This investigation revealed the University's mishandling of reports in what should have been a supportive, responsive and caring environment for students," Richard Willis, chairman of the Baylor board of regents, said in a statement.

"The depth to which these acts occurred shocked and outraged us. Our students and their families deserve more, and we have committed our full attention to improving our processes, establishing accountability and ensuring appropriate actions are taken to support former, current and future students."

Briles had no immediate comment. In a Facebook post, his daughter, Staley Lebby, called the circumstances that led to his ouster a "media witch hunt" and wrote that her father is a "man of incredible character."

Starr will transition into a role as chancellor and remain as a law school professor. His duties as chancellor will include external fundraising and religious liberty; he will have no operational duties at the university.

Athletic director Ian McCaw was sanctioned and put on probation. He is working to find an interim football coach, according to Willis.

Dr. David Garland, a former dean and professor at Baylor's George W. Truett Theological Seminary, will serve as interim president. The school said in the release that additional members of the administration and athletics program have also been dismissed but declined to identify them.

Baylor officials said in a news release that the school had hired a New York law firm to contact the NCAA about potential rules violations.

Briles, 60, had eight years remaining on a 10-year contract extension that he signed in November 2013. Although Baylor, as a private school, hasn't released the details of his contract, it is believed Briles was making nearly $6 million per season, which would have made him the Big 12's highest-paid coach and one of the highest paid in the FBS.

According to Baylor's most recent IRS filing, Briles' base salary in 2014 was $4.2 million, which was considerably more than Starr's base salary of $789,000 annually as university president.

It is not known whether Briles has negotiated a buyout with Baylor. In most college coaching contracts, a university can fire a coach without having to pay the remainder of his or her contract if it has findings of cause.

Briles and McCaw have been criticized for recruiting players who were dismissed by their former schools, and for the way they disciplined players who allegedly committed violent acts against women and other assaults.

The school said in the release that McCaw would work with university leadership and the board of regents "to implement the recommendations as they related to the restoration of a tone of accountability within the football program, to effective oversight and controls of the Athletics Department, and to critically needed changes that will re-align the Athletics program with the University mission."

Baylor's statement said the findings in the report by the Philadelphia law firm Pepper Hamilton "reflect a fundamental failure by Baylor to implement Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 (Title IX) and the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2013 (VAWA)." According to Baylor, the findings in the report include:

The University's student conduct processes were wholly inadequate to consistently provide a prompt and equitable response under Title IX; Baylor failed to consistently support complainants through the provision of interim measures; and in some cases, the University failed to take action to identify and eliminate a potential hostile environment, prevent its recurrence or address its effects.

Actions by University administrators directly discouraged some complainants from reporting or participating in student conduct processes and in one instance constituted retaliation against a complainant for reporting sexual assault.

In addition to broader University failings, Pepper Hamilton found specific failings within both the football program and Athletics department leadership, including a failure to identify and respond to a pattern of sexual violence by a football player and to a report of dating violence.

There are significant concerns about the tone and culture within Baylor's football program as it relates to accountability for all forms of student athlete misconduct.

Over the course of their review, Pepper Hamilton investigated the University's response to reports of a sexual assault involving multiple football players. The football program and Athletics department leadership failed to take appropriate action in response to these reports.

In the fall of 2015, Baylor hired Pepper Hamilton to review its past treatment of sexual assault claims. Outside the Lines reported last week that some Baylor officials, including coaches, knew about incidents of sexual assault, domestic violence and other acts of violence involving football players, but most players didn't miss playing time as punishment.

Two Baylor players accused of sexual assault were recruited by Briles after they were dismissed from their previous schools for off-field problems. In August 2015, former Baylor football player Sam Ukwuachu was sentenced to 180 days in jail after he was convicted of sexually assaulting a women's soccer player. Briles was criticized for accepting Ukwuachu as a transfer student after then-Boise State coach Chris Petersen dismissed him from the team for off-field issues. Ukwuachu's former girlfriend testified at his trial that he had struck and choked her when he attended Boise State.

Then, in April, former Bears star defensive end Shawn Oakman was arrested on a charge of sexual assault. A Baylor graduate student told Waco, Texas, police that Oakman "forcibly removed" her clothes, forced her onto his bed and then sexually assaulted her on April 3, according to an arrest warrant obtained by ESPN. Oakman, the school's all-time sacks leader who wasn't selected in last month's NFL draft, told police he had consensual sex with the woman. Oakman was dismissed from Penn Stateafter he allegedly grabbed the wrist of a female store clerk.

The university's findings revealed that "Baylor did not consistently conduct due diligence" in vetting transfers in criminal or student conduct matters. The university found that protocol was inconsistently applied with regard to "criminal background checks, request for records of any prior college disciplinary actions, and character reference screening forms."

"We feel very sorry for these victims," incoming board of regents chairman Ronald Murff said on a teleconference with reporters. "It's awful what they've had to endure, what they've gone through. Quite often, our response was not proper. We recognize that it was extremely brave of them to talk about these very significant issues that happened in their lives. Our thoughts are with them. They've had some difficult issues to deal with, and we're sorry it happened and we did not respond the best way we could."

When asked about the Baylor Police Department's role and its failings, regent David Harper, an attorney from Dallas, said on the call: "I'd say what we learned overall -- we were shocked. It made us angry, sad and very humble."

The U.S. Department of Education issued a statement Saturday commending Baylor for taking "necessary corrective steps."

"Every student should be able to attend college in an environment free form sexual harassment and violence. We are grateful when any school evaluates its civil rights compliance and takes necessary corrective steps -- those are key elements in ensuring all students' civil rights are met," the statement said. "We understand from news reports that Baylor leaders have taken steps to satisfy Title IX. The Department will not hesitate to investigate if necessary and if we receive a complaint within jurisdiction."

Former Baylor student Jasmin Hernandez, a sexual assault survivor, said on Outside the Lines earlier Thursday that she was "very surprised" by Baylor's actions given "they've shown over the years to react as minimally as possible."

In a statement, Starr said: "I applaud the Board for its transparency. It must be known, however, that I was not privy to any of the allegations regarding interpersonal violence until the Fall of 2015, at which time I immediately launched an internal investigation before recommending to the Board an independent external investigation, which the Board then commissioned with Pepper Hamilton. ... To those victims who were not treated with the care, concern and support they deserve, I am profoundly sorry."

Starr, a former independent counselor who is perhaps best known for investigating former U.S. President Bill Clinton's affair with a White House intern, has served as president of Baylor since June 1, 2010. And in November 2013, the regents also appointed him as chancellor, a position that had been vacant since 2006. During Starr's tenure, he has been credited with several fundraising initiatives, most notably raising $120 million in donations that helped pay for McLane Stadium, Baylor's new $266 million football stadium, which opened on the banks of the Brazos River in Waco in 2014.

Starr was popular among students for his participation in the "Baylor Line," a school tradition in which freshman students wear yellow shirts and rush the field before home football games, and was often seen at other sporting events.

Under Starr's watch, Baylor enjoyed unprecedented athletic success. The 2011-12 academic year is often referred to as the "Year of the Bear" by Baylor alumni and fans. During the 2011 season, Bears quarterback Robert Griffin III became the school's first Heisman Trophy winner. The women's basketball team became the first NCAA squad -- men's or women's -- to finish 40-0, and star Brittney Griner was named national player of the year. Baylor's men's basketball team started 17-0 and reached the Elite Eight of the NCAA tournament, and the baseball team won 49 games.

Baylor's football ascension from perennial Big 12 doormat to a national powerhouse under Briles is among the most unlikely success stories. The Bears suffered 12 consecutive losing seasons before Briles was hired in December 2007. After going 4-8 in each of Briles' first two seasons, Baylor went 7-6 and played in its first bowl game in 16 years in 2010.

Since 2011, Briles has guided Baylor to a 50-15 record, winning 10 games or more four of the past five seasons. The Bears won at least a share of consecutive Big 12 titles in 2013 and '14; the 2013 title was the school's first outright conference championship since 1980.

Briles came to Baylor from Houston, where he led the Cougars to four bowl games in five seasons.

During the Big 12 baseball tournament in Oklahoma City on Thursday, commissioner Bob Bowlsby spoke to reporters about Briles and Baylor.

"Coach Briles has certainly had a remarkable career at Baylor," he said. "They won a lot of games and they built a beautiful stadium. There's no doubt there's a sadness that goes along with his departure. And yet I think Baylor has been transparent in their handling of the matter. They've taken steps."

ESPN's Brett McMurphy, Paula Lavigne and Jake Trotter and The Associated Press contributed to this report

my bad. he and the baylor administration allegedly looked the other way and didn't act on rape accusations. basically, that the situation I think.

J/c

Briles is a sharp football mind. When it comes to uptempo spread with some zone-read he was on the forefront.

he'll no doubt help the offense.

j/c:

Earlier this year, on the college football thread...........I said that Briles sickens me. His so-called apology on ESPN was anything but. I have never liked the guy and it sickens me that the Browns would bring such a low-character person on board.

His apology was such crap, I agree. Pretty transparent and didn't mean much to me.

Yeah, I think it was you and I who were talking about it on the college football thread. The guy is horse crap!

So what y'all are saying is that there was a history of recurring sexual assault by people close to Briles, he was aware of it.. but rather than stand up and do the right thing for the victims, he chose to hide it to defend the accused because his own future success really depended on it.. so no real investigations were ever done and no punishment was ever given out.. Yea, who would want somebody with that on their record in charge of anything.

*LOL* ... Pretty subtle there bud ... 100% TRUE ,,,,

I see what you did there.

I support what ever my team does. I guess. a homer is, what a homer does.

That is horrendous.

not really. I don't watch College games and for the most part only watch the Browns play. so I am out of the loop on this one.

Did he help our team? did he set it back? is he a good off. mind?

Now if what is said is true then yea don't bring him in. Is it true or just speculation about his cover up? idk now I'll have to look it up.

Big Ben? yea I think so. Ray Lewis? (murder) on the fence. This guy? I have no idea, but if true then yea don't bring him in. he got the OK from the FO...so not sure what that means.

But at the end of the day. Yea I support my team first.

What you described is true about how most colleges operate

First off it means they have NO VALUES or MORALS and the only thing that matters is winning football games .. DISGRACEFUL ...

It also mean they either think smoking weed or driving after u have a few beers is way WORSE than SEXUAL MOLESTATION and my guess is RAPE ... Yup .. That's a great message to send out to the folks in your org. And your fans .. BRILLIANT!!!

It also proves there .... DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO folks ... Fella's .. Look we didn't draft Dak cause he had a few beers .. But this coach COVERING UP sexual misconduct is OK cause it didn't happen here .... OH WAIT ... DAK didn't drink here either ... Hmm ...

It also proves that the HARVARD BOYS and Hue are SCUMBAGS .. We all ready knew Haslam was a piece of crap human being ... Maybe not the HARVRD BOYS .. It may just prove there Woosies .. Hue, I just lost all the respect I had for him ..

I'll never root for him again ... And when he gets fired ... It will make me sad cause it means we still SUCK but it will make me smile on the inside ..

That's what it means ... And it has nothing to do with BEING A HOMER ... It just means at this stage in your life your priorities could use some re-arranging ...

This isn't a FOOTBALL THING ... It's a HUMAN DECENCY THING ...

Decided not to go there ... ...

Do you have a link to support your claim that most colleges cover-up rapes and sexual misconduct by their athletes?

I watched a local show called The Red Zone last night. A female caller spoke to how disappointed she was w/Hue's decision. She talked about how the victims can't just move on and will adversely affected by the horrific acts that they were subjected to. She ended by saying that she just can' watch this team anymore.

I just went back and read some of Hue's comments. He talks about things like it didn't happen here and that everyone deserves another chance and it's not for him to judge, etc.

This is the same guy who didn't suspend a player in Oakland after the latter shot a gun at another person.

I don't want to hear another peep about character from these guys. Not one.

It's almost like the Browns purposely try and make the very worst decisions possible at times. It's hard to believe.

I almost mentioned the victims ... That's the SAD part in all these cases .. And I almost said ..

How do u think the victims and there families feel ..

I just lost all RESPECT for our entire Org. .. But u know what ... The head of this thing is a TWO FACED LIAR .. I guess we have an org. Of VALUELESS men with ZERO MORAL COMPASS ...

So the big question I have...Was the ever a real investigation? He maintains his innocence, so was there ever any PROOF that he is otherwise? Or is this just more politically correct butt hurt over reacting so as to not offend all the over sensitive, self important d bags out there?

That being said, If it were true that he actually did actively participate in a cover up, well, charge his butt with conspiracy to commit a felony or whatever. If no evidence is available to support that or any other charge, then move on, he is innocent until proven guilty.

Not supporting Hue or condoning actions of rape or assault, but I am wondering if you guys respect the Steelers organization? They start a guy at QB who actually raped someone (or someones).

There are a lot of people on this board that are still upset we didn't draft Big Ben to this day. Are these the same people that now want to burn Hue to the ground?

Another shining example of too many of our fan's intelligence and morals.