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Hardcore Republicans haven't voted since 2004. They have very little political mobilization.

And the fact Republican leadership has already conceded this election won't help mobilize anyone. She could go out and shkoot someone on fifth ave right now and win.

You guys are still missing the point. You guys keep looking at the GOP in terms of how the GOP can become more Democrat.

THAT is the point.

The GOP as a party has been becoming more and more Democrat lite, or simply not doing anything at all. The upheaval in the party isn't about the country changing and people being too neanderthal to become enlightened. It's about a body of people who have elected officials to represent them... and those officials aren't.

It's as simple as that.

You guys are going to end up going through the same thing by the end of a Hillary first term. The massive response Bernie got is similar to how the Tea Party started. It'll be interesting to see if they can turn that it in to political momentum.

i don't agree with that.

and it shows how different liberals and conservatives view this country.

cause from my eyes, as well as some liberals, there's conservative, and conservative light.

We're seeing democrats take up issues that would normally be a republican platform.

I just hope you're happy with the 30 trillion in debt your going to have.

Well from what every economist -even the ones interviewed on Fox News- are saying, every candidate was gonna increase the national debt.

I'm not happy at all about it. Bu it seems like it's unavoidable.

So if that's the case, might as well go with the one you believe in, and hope for the best.

Hypothetical prediction of course, but, I don't disagree.

I think there is definitely a far left movement in the party that don't want HRC but, as I said in my previous post for these folks the SCOTUS' is too important to not vote for her. The debate and showdown within the party, however, I don't see as big as the one boiling away inside the GOP.

The big question in the Dem party at the moment is this: those 18-24 year olds who were energized for Sanders....will they show up and vote on Nov 8? I don't mean those who are at a Lib Arts college. Like Trump supporters...we know those students will go out and vote. But, I question....what about those who are still in high school, those who work, those who are unemployed, those who are at Community College, those who are young parents, those who didn't go to a four year college/university....are they committed enough to still go out and vote on Nov. 8? It remains to be seen.

If they don't then it becomes a bigger question for the Dems (and Reps) of how to get them involved as they are the future of both parties.

I'm curious where all the "Trump accusers" were for the last year and a half. They obviously knew the primaries were occuring. Not a word. They knew he was running. Not a word. They knew he was most likely to be the candidate. Not a word.

Now, suddenly, when Trump unleashes on Billy and steel dragon, they come out of the woodwork. Funny thing about it is.....it just happens to be at the exact same time some damning e mail leaks are coming forward about Clinton shennanigans. Funny thing how that works.

Funny thing this thing we call politics.

Funny, funny thing.

That's odd, seeing as how he already had the accusations out before he even announced his bid for president.

Anyway, the GOP was trying to hang trump, but failed. That's their problem.

Perhaps it could also be when these ladies saw him at the last debate saying he has always had "great respect for women" and then saying to Anderson Cooper that he has never "sexually assaulted" a woman (even though he boasts to Billy Bush about doing so). Maybe that was their trigger to say enough is enough and speak up?

However, whether he is guilty of these recent claims or not him standing in front of an audience and basically saying the ladies making these accusations were not attractive enough to warrant him doing these things was equally repulsive and more sexist, bully tactics from him.

Remember, he had two accusations in the 90's.

At this point, the only vote Trump is gonna get is from a bill Cosby.

None would increase it like HRC will but at some point you have to vote in people that will work to bring that down. We can't afford to just keep paying the interest on the debt. This country is going downhill fast with the weight of this debt.

depending one which source with the political slant of your choosing, some say trump would increase it way more than Clinton.

Others, vise versa.

what are you talking about? according to Trump's mouthpiece Katrina Pierson, Obama started the wars, remember?