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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
maybe this means Lebron doesn't plan to leave?


He was never going to

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maybe this means Lebron doesn't plan to leave?


He was never going to


I'm not so sure he wouldn't to be honest, especially if Kyrie opts to leave too. He could go to LA/NY/CHI for one last hurrah with an elite franchise to bring them back to glory ... and to make bank in the city


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I'm not so sure he wouldn't to be honest, especially if Kyrie opts to leave too. He could go to LA/NY/CHI for one last hurrah with an elite franchise to bring them back to glory ... and to make bank in the city


Well, all the starters, outside Lebron are signed on for three more seasons (Kyrie and Kev have player options for a 4th). Lebron is here for two seasons, but could opt out in the third. So, Lebron would have to make that decision without any knowledge of what those guys are doing.

I think it's a real possibility that he could leave in 2 years, but things would have to go pretty far south for him to do that. He'd pretty much own the city at that point and would be pushing 33. Unless the Knicks get Chris Paul and Carmelo together, and Lebron is willing to play for the min, I'm not sure what situation would look better than the one he has here. Kyrie would still be two years younger than Steph Curry is now!

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Evidently the Cavs finally re-signed JR Smith. I can't believe it took so long but I'm glad that they did.


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only 3 yrs is garenteed plus he is a perfect fit with love Kyrie and James, on a side note Felder with be an upgrade over Delly

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maybe this means Lebron doesn't plan to leave?


He was never going to


I'm not so sure he wouldn't to be honest, especially if Kyrie opts to leave too. He could go to LA/NY/CHI for one last hurrah with an elite franchise to bring them back to glory ... and to make bank in the city


Lebron signed a 3 year/$100 million deal earlier this year. The 3rd year is a player's option, but he is here for, at least, 2 years.

LeBron James signs with Cleveland Cavaliers on new multiyear contract
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17287...tiyear-contract

LeBron James and the NBA champion Cleveland Cavaliers made it official Friday, with the team announcing that James has signed a new multiyear contract.

The deal is for three years, $100 million, agent Rich Paul told ESPN. A source told ESPN that James has a player option for the third year.

The salary in the first year of James' deal will be $31 million, making James the highest-paid player in the NBA for the first time in his career. The salary for the 2017-18 season will top $33 million, making him the highest-paid player in a single season in league history, exceeding the $33 million Michael Jordan earned with the Chicago Bulls in the 1997-98 season.

"We are very fortunate to have a championship group together, one that has grown organically to trust and sacrifice for one another, on and off the floor," Cavs GM David Griffin said. "At the core of that group is LeBron. His leadership, passion and tireless commitment are the hallmarks of our success and have inspired our entire franchise. His connection and dedication to his community and this fan base are absolute. We share his determination to win at the highest level and can't wait to get back to work, together to defend our title."

James posted a photo on his Instagram account earlier Friday, apparently showing him signing the deal.

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Also, Kyrie signed a max deal with the Cavaliers prior to the 2014 season. it was a 5 year/$90 million deal. He is here (unless we trade him for some reason)through the 2020 season.

Kyrie Irving of Cleveland Cavaliers accepts max contract extension
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11160...tract-extension

Dogged by rumors that he was wanted out of Cleveland, franchise cornerstone Kyrie Irving and Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert tweeted early Tuesday that they have agreed to terms on a five-year contract extension.

The deal will be worth approximately $90 million, the maximum allowed under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.

Irving had one year remaining on his contract. The agreement, which will go into effect next season and will run through the 2019-20 season, was announced by Gilbert on his Twitter feed.

(More info at the link)



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maybe this means Lebron doesn't plan to leave?


He was never going to


I'm not so sure he wouldn't to be honest, especially if Kyrie opts to leave too. He could go to LA/NY/CHI for one last hurrah with an elite franchise to bring them back to glory ... and to make bank in the city


In 2 years I can care less where he goes the NBA power will shift, Boston, Toronto, Detroit in the East and GS, Minn and NO in the West, our roster will be old and time to rebuild or retool, beside in 2 years LBJ will be making his after NBA plans, movies, buying team or whatever. I don't see him making a ragtag old superteam with Melo, CP3, Wade it would feel like a joke . Also the last thing LBJ needs is more cash

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JR doesn't get enough credit for what he did in game 7.

https://youtu.be/skk_8pFcnpI

You could feel an avalanche about to pour on the Cavs up to that point. JR went on a 8-0 run of his own.


I 100% agree with this. It was a turning point for us.

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JR doesn't get enough credit for what he did in game 7.

https://youtu.be/skk_8pFcnpI

You could feel an avalanche about to pour on the Cavs up to that point. JR went on a 8-0 run of his own.


I 100% agree with this. It was a turning point for us.


It's small moments like that which save a teams behind. There were multiple points in that game where you're on your toes wondering when Golden State would make a monsterous run to close out.

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That and the 3 point foul on Lebron were the 2 big ones.


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Also the last thing LBJ needs is more cash


I'm not so sure he feels this way.

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Also the last thing LBJ needs is more cash


I'm not so sure he feels this way.


He gives away a lot to causes near and dear to his heart, and has given a lot back to Akron over the years.


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Also the last thing LBJ needs is more cash


I'm not so sure he feels this way.


He gives away a lot to causes near and dear to his heart, and has given a lot back to Akron over the years.


That doesn't mean he is okay not getting more money. His whole return to Cleveland has been about maximizing his earning potential (which is not a bad thing).

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Also the last thing LBJ needs is more cash


I'm not so sure he feels this way.


He gives away a lot to causes near and dear to his heart, and has given a lot back to Akron over the years.


That doesn't mean he is okay not getting more money. His whole return to Cleveland has been about maximizing his earning potential (which is not a bad thing).


Definitely. My point was that he doesn't just make money for the sake of making money. He does a lot to help others with his money.


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I don't think Lebron will be going anywhere, remember in the letter he said he always knew he would finish his career in Cleveland?

All he said about how much talent our area needs and how he hopes he could inspire someone to start a business around there?

Personally, I hope he puts himself a group of buyers together and buys the Cavs.

Or perhaps he wants to coach before then?


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I wouldn't mind seeing Lebron as a minority owner ... but Gilbert has proved that he is willing to spend whatever is necessary to win it all ..... and I hope he owns the team for a long time to come.


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Saw an interesting topic on another site. Prior to Pre-Miami days Lebron teams, which Cavs team do you feel could have won a title if you put current Kyrie on those teams? So most likely the 2008-2010 Cavs teams.

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09 definitely.

Our 2nd best player was Mo Williams, who was terrible in the playoffs.


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looks like kyrie injured...again. I think we are going to have to address the backup PG, nothing I saw from felder makes me warm and fuzzy. We have an 11 mil trade exception, surely we can find a backup PG. I guess chalmers isn't quite ready yet, I'd still sign him before someone else does


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looks like kyrie injured...again. I think we are going to have to address the backup PG, nothing I saw from felder makes me warm and fuzzy. We have an 11 mil trade exception, surely we can find a backup PG. I guess chalmers isn't quite ready yet, I'd still sign him before someone else does


I saw that the Cavs are waiting for Mario Chalmers to get healthy (he tore his Achilles last season).

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looks like kyrie injured...again. I think we are going to have to address the backup PG, nothing I saw from felder makes me warm and fuzzy. We have an 11 mil trade exception, surely we can find a backup PG. I guess chalmers isn't quite ready yet, I'd still sign him before someone else does


I saw that the Cavs are waiting for Mario Chalmers to get healthy (he tore his Achilles last season).


yeah i saw that too, I'd take a flyer on him know and let him rehab in house, though i'm not sure what the rules are surrounding signing an injured player, but I guess he's only "injured" until a teams medical staff declares him fit to begin basketball activities, but he'd be the perfect backup, he can play up tempo, familiar with lebron, plays + defense


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There's no reason to sign an injured player, pay 3-times his salary in luxury tax, and let him eat a roster spot that could be used by a healthy player.

I'm also not sure how much a value a trade exception is going to hold, since the salary cap just went up a ton for everyone. If it's used at all, it won't be till the trade deadline.

My guess is we sign Chalmers sometime in 2017 when he's healthy and ready to make a playoff run:
http://kingjamesgospel.com/2016/10/18/cavaliers-mario-chalmers-playoffs/

In the meantime, we have Lebron, Shump and Felder that can all play PG. Our offense doesn't really use a PG in a traditional sense anyway. A guard usually brings the ball up the court and dumps it to Lebron or Love to start the offense and that's the extent of it.

I'm also guessing that we could trade away a few of the younger assets we have, come trade-time. It would open up a roster spot for Chalmers in the process. It gives us more flexibility to have a young guy that we can trade or cut than it does to have Chalmers who would just sit there rehabbing.


For now, this is our roster:

Starters: TT, Love, Lebron, JR, Irving
Second Unit: Birdman, Frye, RJ, Dunleavy, Shump
Youth and Oldth movement: Felder, McRae, Jones and Jones

That leaves one spot. My guess is that it goes to Liggins because he's a 3 & D guy who can play several different spots. he had a so-so pre-season though, so it could also go to Holmes or Cory Jefferson if we decide we need more big-bodies. Guys like Liggins, Felder and McRae might be potential trade bait come winter if we decide we need another piece.

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There's no reason to sign an injured player, pay 3-times his salary in luxury tax, and let him eat a roster spot that could be used by a healthy player.

I'm also not sure how much a value a trade exception is going to hold, since the salary cap just went up a ton for everyone. If it's used at all, it won't be till the trade deadline.

My guess is we sign Chalmers sometime in 2017 when he's healthy and ready to make a playoff run:
http://kingjamesgospel.com/2016/10/18/cavaliers-mario-chalmers-playoffs/

In the meantime, we have Lebron, Shump and Felder that can all play PG. Our offense doesn't really use a PG in a traditional sense anyway. A guard usually brings the ball up the court and dumps it to Lebron or Love to start the offense and that's the extent of it.

I'm also guessing that we could trade away a few of the younger assets we have, come trade-time. It could open up a roster spot for Chalmers in the process.

For now, this is our roster:

Starters: TT, Love, Lebron, JR, Irving
Second Unit: Birdman, Frye, RJ, Dunleavy, Shump
Youth and Oldth movement: Felder, McRae, Jones and Jones

That leaves one spot. My guess is that it goes to Liggins because he's a 3 & D guy who can play several different spots. he had a so-so pre-season though, so it could also go to Holmes or Cory Jefferson if we decide we need more big-bodies. Guys like Liggins, Felder and McRae might be potential trade bait come winter if we decide we need another piece.


Sorry but you saying Shump could play PG leads me to believe you may have never watched him play ever tongue. Felder doesn't impress me, should be in Dleague, but yeah lebron could do it and possibly liggins, but you do need a backup pg that can come in and defend the position as well, thats not felder. I think at some point this year Chalmers will be here providing he doesn't have a setback, i don't think the cap going up devalues the exception at all, there will still be teams looking to dump salary or clear space at deadline. I really doubt we eat an 11 million exception. May not use it all, but I think it will be used on a backup PG or a Wing depending on how the season goes. Especially with some of the aging vets like dunleavy or RJ, they could get hurt


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Shump can play point a bit. He did so last season. He also can take on the opposing PG, while Lebron plays "point forward". There are a lot of ways to play around the backup PG position.


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Shump can play point a bit. He did so last season. He also can take on the opposing PG, while Lebron plays "point forward". There are a lot of ways to play around the backup PG position.


shump cannot play the point, he did last year and was a turnover machine...bringing the ball up the court does not make a PG and his defense really dropped off, he's not an on the ball defender he's a help defender with quick hands. lebron playing the point doesn't excite me either, if theres not a true pg on the floor i can see alot of LeIso and stanky leg in lieu of ball movement


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We made it through half a season last year with Irving on the bench ... and since Delly is a D-leaguer in your eyes, we must of done it somehow.

The first few games of pre-season, we had Shump, Liggins or Felder running the point and it worked just fine. They usually would pass it off to Lebron, and the ball movement would go from there.

The regular season doesn't really matter anyway. So long as we get an 8th seed or better and everyone is healthy by the playoffs, we'll be fine.

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Yep. Plus, a lot of the time Lebron was the one who initiated the offense, even with Irving on the floor.


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We made it through half a season last year with Irving on the bench ... and since Delly is a D-leaguer in your eyes, we must of done it somehow.

The first few games of pre-season, we had Shump, Liggins or Felder running the point and it worked just fine. They usually would pass it off to Lebron, and the ball movement would go from there.

The regular season doesn't really matter anyway. So long as we get an 8th seed or better and everyone is healthy by the playoffs, we'll be fine.


i guess you forgot Mo started the first half? but don't let facts get in the way. Yes delly is a dleaguer, that was quite evident as the playoffs progressed. My point is defensively with the second unit, Felder is tiny, Shump can't do much of anythiing, thats why there were reports of trading him in the offseason. and yes, everyone knows lebron initiates the offense, and we all remember everyone standing around watching LeIso, I have no issues with that as its lebron and he can do whatever he wants. My point is, the second unit, and keeping lebron fresh, thus Backup PG, you're not going to use lebron as the backup PG, especially if you're wanting to keep his minutes down. This is all conjecture at this point as we haven't even played a game, I'm just saying the only spot on the team that concerns me is backup PG. Kyrie had a long summer, i'd be nice to keep the big three out of as many games as we can during the season.


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Looks like Cavs are trying to trade for one now:

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/..._social_feature


Jarret Jack was just waived as well. I wonder if we're trying to trade with Utah, they have like 37 PG's on that team. Mack would be a nice addition


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Also of note (mentioned in that article too), Mo Williams re-re-re-reversed his retirement decision, so he's still on the roster. They will probably try to trade him or buy him out to make room for one of the new guys.

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Looks like Cavs are trying to trade for one now:

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/..._social_feature


Jarret Jack was just waived as well. I wonder if we're trying to trade with Utah, they have like 37 PG's on that team. Mack would be a nice addition


Mack has actual value, the Cavs don't have anything to give up for him.

Jack has been terrible for awhile now and he's coming off a major knee injury (torn ACL and meniscus).

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Also of note (mentioned in that article too), Mo Williams re-re-re-reversed his retirement decision, so he's still on the roster. They will probably try to trade him or buy him out to make room for one of the new guys.


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With the Cavs home opener and WS game one on the same nite, can downtown be anymore of the place to be on Tuesday. Split screen is a must.

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Looks like Cavs are trying to trade for one now:

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/..._social_feature


Jarret Jack was just waived as well. I wonder if we're trying to trade with Utah, they have like 37 PG's on that team. Mack would be a nice addition


Mack has actual value, the Cavs don't have anything to give up for him.

Jack has been terrible for awhile now and he's coming off a major knee injury (torn ACL and meniscus).


We have an 11 mill trade exception, plus some players like McRae that might be valuable as teams have been calling about, Mack is the 3rd PG on that team...so not sure where you're basing that statement on. And your comment about Jack is false as well, he's averaged 13 points a game the last two seasons and over 7 assists a game...yeah he's pretty bad notallthere


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Looks like Cavs are trying to trade for one now:

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/..._social_feature


Jarret Jack was just waived as well. I wonder if we're trying to trade with Utah, they have like 37 PG's on that team. Mack would be a nice addition


Mack has actual value, the Cavs don't have anything to give up for him.

Jack has been terrible for awhile now and he's coming off a major knee injury (torn ACL and meniscus).


We have an 11 mill trade exception, plus some players like McRae that might be valuable as teams have been calling about, Mack is the 3rd PG on that team...so not sure where you're basing that statement on. And your comment about Jack is false as well, he's averaged 13 points a game the last two seasons and over 7 assists a game...yeah he's pretty bad notallthere


Jack was the point guard for Brooklyn. Someone had to fill up the stat sheet.

McRae has never done anything and I doubt the Cavs will want to add any significant salary because of the luxury tax.

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I'm not a huge fan of Jack, but he can score. Who he plays for won't change that.

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