Seriously. Pay attention to what she says in the debates. Go to her website. Google it.
It's not a deflection just because you don't like the answers. Forum mod.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
This, on top with another host of issues involved with Brexit, is another reason why people are turning away from trump. The U.K. Just showed what happens when you vote out of anger and fear. And yes, a lot of liberals are paying attention.
Trumps plan will add 10 trillion to the deficit. For all you guys who were very vocal over the national debt, you've been very quiet about this.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Website is obvious start. But, even in the short time allocated to answer questions...during every debate she has gone FAR more into detail about her plans than Trump. Trump literally says nothing other than how "great" and how "beautiful it is going to be" (but never says HOW) or he diverts by criticizing and insulting his opponents.
Again...........you and the Democrats on this board have been far more insulting than the Republicans. Also, the ad campaigns generated by Hillary's team have been far more insulting than Trump's.
It's sad, because the Dems used to be above that and allowed the Republicans to wallow in the gutter.
I'll never be able to identify w/the Republican party, but the actions of the Dems in this election sickens me.
Typical of ANY politician, I know. Dem, rep, ind. They all claim to have laid out "detailed plans"......and, like Kerry was renowned for saying "I laid out detailed plans for this 4 weeks ago in (insert city).
None of them have detailed plans. None of them are specific. Just buzz words/phrases.
Again...........you and the Democrats on this board have been far more insulting than the Republicans. Also, the ad campaigns generated by Hillary's team have been far more insulting than Trump's.
It's sad, because the Dems used to be above that and allowed the Republicans to wallow in the gutter.
I'll never be able to identify w/the Republican party, but the actions of the Dems in this election sickens me.
Just my opinion.
Hey man, just because you haven't paid attention during debates or, can't be bothered to read, that's your choice. But, the answers have been there for months and if you listen to what she says in the 2min of her debate, when asked, she gives FAR more substance in that brief time than Trump ever has in any of the Republican or Presidential debates.
FACT.
Trump also has a website, I understand, but....in his public time that he has to speak to the people he rarely, if ever, hits the details. I am not even sure he has read his own website.
Now, regarding your sassy pants reply...in other threads you whine and get all butt hurt about "personal insults" and then you come back with this reply? What was it that you said about somebody's reply...."quoted for silliness"? Isn't that a bully move? Why would you even post that? Honestly? This is exactly why people can't take you serious, dude. Perhaps instead of picking your battles with posters in here and then having a hissy fit when others take issue with you...take the time to do your homework by re-watching debates and going to her website and then we can discuss further.
Typical of ANY politician, I know. Dem, rep, ind. They all claim to have laid out "detailed plans"......and, like Kerry was renowned for saying "I laid out detailed plans for this 4 weeks ago in (insert city).
None of them have detailed plans. None of them are specific. Just buzz words/phrases.
Typical of ANY politician, I know. Dem, rep, ind. They all claim to have laid out "detailed plans"......and, like Kerry was renowned for saying "I laid out detailed plans for this 4 weeks ago in (insert city).
None of them have detailed plans. None of them are specific. Just buzz words/phrases.
So to claim hillary has specs or details. Wrong.
There are bullet points and then related links to various articles under each issue. I think you can spend quite a lot of time here, actually. But, yes if you want more deeper delving you need to look further.
However, contrast HRC's website with Trump's on the "issues" and you get: One sentence written in bold/elementary school font along with videos of some angry, rich, old white dude shouting at the camera.
So, we were talking about Hillary's "detailed" and specified plans. And now it's "well, you have to look further to see them, BUT, look at trumps lack."
It's been asked numerous times -- this question: Give me a reason to vote for trump.
I'm now asking the hillary supporters the same question, and none of them can answer.
You just don't like the answers. All well. You probably wouldn't anyway with your blind hatred for her.
At this point it doesn't matter. Most have already decided who they are voting for, so it's a moot point.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
So, we were talking about Hillary's "detailed" and specified plans. And now it's "well, you have to look further to see them, BUT, look at trumps lack."
It's been asked numerous times -- this question: Give me a reason to vote for trump.
I'm now asking the hillary supporters the same question, and none of them can answer.
But, I'll go back to hillary's website.
Nope. Just need to read (inc. the links below the issues). If you want to look further...there are many articles delving into her plan. Also, re-watch the Dem debates between her and Bernie...you will find them on YouTube. Here, she goes further into detail, but keep in mind she also has a time frame to answer within. But, she at least goes into substance unlike Trump when he just slung mud at his opponents. She also touches on substance in her Pres debates but, it far too often gets diverted with Trump being a bully or interrupting.
The problem with a website is this, and I admit you touch on it in a few replies above,...the American people are lazy and they don't want to take the time to read so, they trim it down to bulletpoints. For those who want to read you do need to research but, if I post them the conservative among you will accuse it of "liberal sources" and vice versa. The difference with Trumps website is...it is dumbed down so much all you have is one sentence and a video of him foaming at the mouth.
And in that, you'll find this scare tactic: A republican president will undo Obama's actions (read: executive actions) on guns, climate, and a whole lot more. Read the link. It has a paragraph or 2 about guns. 1 about climate change with no details, a paragraph about illegal immigrants...sorry, "immigrant" families.
A paragraph about overtime pay for 5 million workers, a paragraph about the iran nuke deal, a paragraph about help with repaying student loans (hey, I want help with my mortgage, and I want you to pay it. Where do I sign up?)
A paragraph about discrimination protection for the lgbt community, a paragraph about diplomatic relations with cuba, and a paragraph about strengthening employment benefits.
ALL of that under "climate change". Wow.
Such detailed plans. Er......nope, buzz phrases.
There are no plans.
One would think her own website would lay out some details rather than just float buzz phrases, wouldn't you?
Oh, in another, I see that Hillary went to flint to talk with residents. And then I see that flint is 56.6 % black.
No plans to help flint. But a good chance to win the black vote by noting that she went to flint, which is 56.6% black by the way.
She's going to, on manufacturing, strengthen it. Other than with tax incentives, she doesn't say how.
BUT, get this: she wants to give tax incentives to company's to stay here.
But like she's already said, she wants to raise corporate taxes.
How do those 2 concepts work together? We'll give you tax incentives to stay here, but we'll raise your taxes anyway. ???
I also noticed that on every page, there's a "donate here" link.
Reasons to vote for Hillary? What a joke. The liberal lemmings are really drinking the koolaid and being suckers. Hillary will say anything to get elected. She doesnt care how many baby butts she has to kiss. She is nothing but a puppet for wallstreet and the ultra rich who slide her donations under the table. She has already said there is a public position and a private position on issues. You people are too stupid to get past being a lemming to see her for the corrupt dog dung she is.
Well, if you don't like her stuff, should've put a better candidate against her. That's what it boils down to at the end of the day.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Arch, there's quite a lot more than that...you need to open the tabs, click on the "fact sheet", open the various links etc.
However, you have made your mind up so, you wont change your opinion and I don't expect you to. I also know you vehemently dislike her as I do Trump but, you have to admit there is CONSIDERABLY more on her site under "issues" than there is on his. I mean....come on, man!
I did think I went as far as the website enabled me on the 4 or 5 "sub links" I talked about, and the links included in those sub links. I did NOT open every link. I went into as many of the so called "specifics" as I could, on all the links I gave. I gave it a fair read and saw no detailed plans anywhere.
Let's face it - if she had detailed plans, as was mentioned, one shouldn't have to spend an hour scouring her website to find just one detailed plan, right?
I shouldn't have to ask her many supporters on here to link me to even one of her so called detailed plans........and get told to "find them yourself". Right?
(and I've been watching many of the "c'mon man" clips on youtube.....don't make me go back to you tube. I gotta work in the morning!)
I shouldn't have to ask her many supporters on here to link me to even one of her so called detailed plans........and get told to "find them yourself". Right?
Seek and you shall find. All good things are worth searching for.
Regarding "the many Hillary supporters in here"? Huh? Brother, I think there are far more Cons/Republicans/Libertarians in here than there are Dems or Libs.
She used to have detailed plans on her website. I guess they were removed because numerous sites reporting they dont add up and she is about a trillion dollars short paying for it.
I dunno why people be hating on Ryan. Just like Beonher(sp?), he had to deal with trying to herd an out of control party before he could even begin to "stand up" to Obama.
I think dude is legit.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I shouldn't have to ask her many supporters on here to link me to even one of her so called detailed plans........and get told to "find them yourself". Right?
Seek and you shall find. All good things are worth searching for.
Regarding "the many Hillary supporters in here"? Huh? Brother, I think there are far more Cons/Republicans/Libertarians in here than there are Dems or Libs.
I agree. I think there are many more conservatives that post here than liberals.
On the political threads though, I have noticed most of the conservatives or republicans have quit posting for the most part, and the liberals and/or dems have taken over the political threads.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I dunno why people be hating on Ryan. Just like Beonher(sp?), he had to deal with trying to herd an out of control party before he could even begin to "stand up" to Obama.
I think dude is legit.
There are a bunch of people who are going to be ruined by Trump. Christie, Giuliani, Rubio, Cruz, Baio, and many more.
(as far as trump ruining Christie, Guiliani, Rubio, Cruz, ...............and Baio?)
Christie and Giuliani were probably done before Trump, but Rubio and Cruz will always have the Trump stink on them. Anyone who runs against them will just have to bring up their support of Trump and they will lose (Cruz will never have a shot at the presidency, Rubio might lose the senate election he is currently in).
(as far as trump ruining Christie, Guiliani, Rubio, Cruz, ...............and Baio?)
Christie and Giuliani were probably done before Trump, but Rubio and Cruz will always have the Trump stink on them. Anyone who runs against them will just have to bring up their support of Trump and they will lose (Cruz will never have a shot at the presidency, Rubio might lose the senate election he is currently in).
John Kasich is the biggest winner if Trump loses. He's never supported Trump from day 1.
