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Anybody else getting those "WWJD What Would Joe Lieberman Do" ads popping up here?

Ah. Isn't that kind of the best possible outcome (given the choices)?

I'd rather have Pence than that guy.

Pence still signed up to run with Donald Trump. That puts him below Kaine for me.

They are all terrible.

He's too evangelical to be Prez. We are a diverse nation with many different religions and non/believers. Pence's religion would get in the way of leading and making decisions.

I went and voted today and it was awesome. All in all the whole process took about 10, maybe 15 minutes if that, and was pretty pleasant. Last time I voted it was on election day in 2012 general and that process took roughly 2.5 hours from start to finish.

Definitely glad I did the early voting process and encourage others to do it.

I highly doubt that.

I had the same experience last week.

Smoothest voting experience I've ever had:

No lines.
Friendly, relaxed volunteers.
2:1 'volunteer-to-voter' ratio. (I saw an 80+ year-old woman get help from 3 workers. They took their time with her, answered all the questions she had (-I was finished with my voting, when I saw them point her to the voting machine. That was something cool to witness...).


Early voting: the best way I've found to do my civic duty.

He's part of the reason trump isn't getting the women vote.

Me too. If so than a person's agnosticism/atheism/other religion would also get in the way of someone else leading and making decisions, right?

I guess no one can ever lead this nation then, because everyone will have traits that disqualify them to someone.

What if?

What if Comey is getting his strings pulled, again?

This new revelation seemingly comes out of nowhere. Why now and how unusual for the FBI to do this?

The already disgraced Weiner is expendable so they use his investigation to take the heat off the Wikileaks email fiasco. Comey already showed which team he plays for last July. Now both campaigns are spouting to release the evidence. Hillary is right out in front of this with a presser and taking questions? She's ducked pressers and questions at every step in this election and now she's out in front? Completely out of character but a nice opportunity to suddenly appear to lead.

He'll let this play for the weekend then Comey will acquiesce and release his evidence. This is not something he has to do or is even expected to do and what he'll release will be nothing of substance. Absolutely nothing. Saying he was just trying to do the right thing for the American people, he'll appear to be playing it straight up, but again, what team is it he plays for? It's not the public team. He already told us (the public team) we can't do what Hillary does and expect to walk free.

The left will now scream the fix is in to smear her wonderful reputation and garner sympathy for their candidate, negating Trumps cries for the fix is in. The right having already played the "we now love the FBI" card will be stuck without being able to make any allegations about this as it will only serve to make them look even more knee-jerk. Another Barney Fife moment for Trump as he fires his gun before he has bullets.

After the election, clinton will come out and say Comey was really just trying to do his job, appear to take the high road and Comey will be assured his job for four more years. A job that he most certainly would have lost if Trump won.

This is complete supposition but, what if?



One thing is for sure. The media is now talking about the FBI and Weiner and not pounding Clinton with wikileaks, her foundation and her slimey mob style tactics.

Nice pivot.

I find it almost impossible to believe that the FBI would announce an investigation, and then table it within a matter of a couple of weeks. Further, if this was done as some kind of "swerve", it has already hurt Clinton, so why would they do that in the political environment we are in today, and especially with early voting all over the place, where the announcement he made today could cause early voters to turn the other way.

Watching Comey, it was obvious that he didn't want to do this, and the he hoped the whole matter would have just blown over. He would have had plenty of political cover if he had tried to brush it all under the rug ..... and that tells me that there is something really serious in this whole investigation.

Nah, I think that they have something fairly serious.

The more that comes out about this the MORE DISGUSTING IT GETS ...

- were on about 14th or 15th lie about this ... EVERY SINGLE time she has opened her mouth about this it has been a LIE ....

1. Setting up the server was within the law and regs
2. Why she did it .. for convenaince ..
3. All personal .... mostly were about yoga and Chelsea's wedding
4. Many to Bill .. problem is HE DOESN'T USE E-MAIL ..
5. # of devices used .. that could be 14 or 15 lies if u count each device ...
6. We've turned everything over .. AFTER DESTROYING PHONES WITH HAMMERS ..
7. Full Disclsure .. AFTER USING BLEACH BIT ... only criminals use bleach bit
8. She told the FBI she couldn't re-call 34 times ..
9. She couldn't re-call getting briefed about security protocol .. ARE U F'N KIDDING ME
10. None were CLASSIFIED .
11. None were TOP SECRET ..
12. None were for YOUR EYES ONLY ...
13. She turned over all of her work related e-mails .. *LOL* .. that could be 15 - 30k lies alone
14. They were SECURE and NO EVIDENCE OF HACKING
15. All emails were captured immediately by her @gov.adress
16, she said she never received a subpena ..
17. She said Comey said she was truthful when he testified in front of Congress ..

And there's more .. looks like i UNDERESTIMATED the amount of lies .. i'm gonna guess were gonna end up around 25 - 30 by the time were all said and done ..

I said a few days ago when Trump called her NASTY ... it was an INSULT to NASTY ...

And this is just one of the subjects she has MULTIPLE LIES ABOUT ...

- see Benghazi .. thats another 20 - 30 LIES ... and 4 PEOPLE DIED there FOR NO REASON AT ALL ...

Shes WELL PAST NASTY!!!

How anyone could believe anything she says about what she will do as president is BEYOND ME ...

LMAO Did you really just type that? No really did you do it on purpose? I now have a clearer mental picture of you in my head

I believe in the "separation of Church and State". I don't need religion in my politics. No thank you.

Religion and Spirituality are a private matter and it should be kept separate. Especially in the most diverse country in the world.

OK Damien

Dunno why you're bothering arguing with them.

Pence religious stuff and the crap he's tried to pull in Indiana is a big reason why trump isn't getting the women vote, on top of all the shenanigans trump has been involved in as well.

We're sitting there telling them exactly why they won't get elected. But the religious go "nah, that can't be it".

Ok.. if they don't want to believe hat their hardcore religious stuff is a turn off the the majority of Americans, then Election Day should wise them up.

If that still doesn't work, then it won't ever get through their heads.

In what way is the United States the most diverse country in the world?

So I guess your okay with Obama catering to the Muslim religion.

except he doesn't.

jc

UK building a wall to stop migrants

Liberals on the board bash trump for wanting to build a wall. But the UK is building wall and since the popular liberal stance is to do everything like Europe, doesn't that mean we should build a wall?

they also voted for Brexit.

sorry if not not exactly relying on the UK for good judgement.

They did...BUT, it was also out of their own laziness, stupidity and arrogance. Nobody could believe the vote would pass so.....they didn't vote. That's what happens when you sit on your ass and let others decide for you. So, yea....they deserve the ramifications.

Can't comment on their wall as I know very little about it but, that photo of the "jungle" with all the tents....it looks like areas of Portland with our own homeless problems and our mayor allowing for public camping. Vast areas of sidewalks, park land etc. have homeless encampments throughout the city. The issue has always been here but, it has exploded in the past year or two. Sadly, many of them are young drug addicts. They cleaned one area up recently in a park land and picked up over 1000 needles, gallons of urine in plastic bottles (why pee in a bottle?), feces etc. Portland Dawg will know what I am talking about.

The fact that we are a melting pot society and have people from all over the world that live here. All races, all religions/non religions, cultural identity, sexual preference etc. Sure, European countries do too but, America has always been a country where people from all over have wanted to come to and still do.

Europe became multicultural after the war, initially with peoples from their own colonies, to help them rebuild and with European war (Yugoslavia/Kosovo) war, the EU and African and Middle East war.

*LOL* .... best move they ever made ..

Europe is CRUMBLING under the weight of their open borders and everyone so linked together financially ...

How many more time u think there going to BAIL GREECE OUT???? ..

THEY gotta be LOVING THAT ...

More good news for Europe .. let me go get the article for U .. cause FRANCE DOESN'T AHVE ENOUGH TERRORIST PROBLEMS ..

Just what Paris needs ...

The destruction of a sprawling shanty town near the English Channel has caused the number of migrants in Paris to skyrocket this week, French officials say.

"We have seen a big increase since the start of the week,” Colombe Brossel, Paris deputy mayor in charge of security issues, told Reuters while describing a section of northeastern Paris. “Last night our teams counted 40 to 50 new tents there in two days."

The new estimates mean there are now 2,000 to 2,500 people sleeping in the area, up from around 1,500 a few days earlier, Brossel added.

"Some of them come from Calais, others from other places,” she said.

Migrants flood Paris after destruction of massive 'jungle' camp

The migrant camp known as “the jungle” in Calais, a French town along the English Channel, was evacuated and destroyed earlier this week with its more than 6,000 residents relocated to shelters across France.

Those camped between two metro stations in Paris Friday morning had scattered as police patrolled the streets. Migrants and officials told Reuters that after police checked their ID papers and asylum requests they were allowed to set up camp again in the area.

"These people must be sheltered," Brossel said. The French capital plans to open two migrant centers, but they will only have a capacity of under 1,000 beds.

The link .. forgot it ..

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10/28/...ungle-camp.html

i guess we will see how it goes once negotiations start to kick in.

that's now gonna be separate trade agreements with each individual country instead of essentially one market place.

messy is probably an understatement.

i saw a couple of tweets talking about that polish people are starting to get harassed more and more. i dunno if that's actually happening or not, but i do know they've always had some issues getting along with the brits.

but to be fair, polish people aren't treated the best much of anywhere. i know the Germans be talking so much trash toward them too.

Agreed on all of the above.

I know when I was there when Romania joined the EU the Romanians didn't get much respect because many of them at that time were still very poor and uneducated and many of the beggars or petty crime in train stations or on the street tended to be E.European. However, once Poland joined they came over in huge numbers and contrary to Romanians they were educated or had trade skills and then had the reputation for sending their money home rather than back into the system. I think there was a lot of xenophobic fear that typical higher paying working class trade jobs such as carpentry, plumbing, building etc. started to go to Poles rather than Brits. In fact, this xenophobia could well have kick started the whole Brexit discussions and then Greece and the refugee crisis snowballed it all.

But, I totally agree that the English have no one else to blame but themselves as too many didn't go out and vote. That is my worry with this American election. We know Trump's supporters will vote no matter what. Will the Dems, liberals...and in particular the youth?

It turns out pot is a stronger economic driver than 90 percent of the industries active in Colorado.
Legal weed created 18,005 full-time jobs and added about $2.4 billion to the state’s economy last year, an analysis from the Marijuana Policy Group (MPG) shows.
Between the dollars that customers spend and the money businesspeople invest in their crops and shops, pot is generating more wealth and activity than almost anything else on a pound-for-pound basis. Every dollar spent in the industry generates between $2.13 and $2.40 in economic activity. Only federal government spending has a higher multiplier.
The numbers land just weeks before voters in five other states must decide whether or not to follow Colorado, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska into the legal, recreational marijuana future. Three further states are weighing new medical marijuana systems, and Montana voters face a referendum on changes to a dozen-year-old medicinal cannabis program there that’s all but locked up thanks to years of legislative sabotage in Bismarck.

https://thinkprogress.org/5-states-weigh...154b#.oq6io187q

man oh man, that's a ton of cash.

and it's also great to see that the majority of american's support legalization. Clinton won't get in the way of this, even with her wishy-washy stance on pot.

more than likely at least 3 out of the 5 states voting will approve it. definitely will be a nice tax boost.

That is interesting. Everything that I have read suggests that the United States is roughly middle-of-the-pack in regards to diversity, both in terms of culture and ethnicity.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...s-in-the-world/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level

By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement. I actually like the idea of separation of Church and State. The above is only meant as an academic discussion.

good article, but i do want to point out something that most people don't know about africa.

lets take DRC (Democratic Republic of Congo).

you can take two congolese people, same skin tone, and ask them if they are the same, and they will say no.

because they live in a different region, or have a different dialect.

that isn't the same as the US, where we base our diversity off of other factors, like what country you come from.

So you are trying to compare a wall in one city in the U. K. as a complete border wall? You do realize we already have already have roughly 2000 miles of border wall, right? Far more than the U. K. is proposing.

Please try again.

Senator Hillary Clinton suggesting that the Palestinian elections should have been rigged a certain way.

Audio recording from 2006 is in the link.
http://observer.com/2016/10/2006-audio-e...stine-election/



just in case anybody was still under the impression that this person had any morals.

Yep. I took a year long course on tribal art and Ethnography of small-scale societies. The same can be said with New Guinea. The tribes throughout the island vary tremendously even in the immediate Sepik River area. As do the tribal areas throughout Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia.

Same with Native American tribes...the Hopi are very different than the Iroquois, or Sioux or Cherokee or Tlinget, Inuit etc. etc.

Is anyone shocked about the U.S. trying to influence a foreign election?

The email thing could hurt Clinton.

The problem? Trump continues to make sure that he likes winning every catergory, including who sucks the worse:

Trump U staff included drug trafficker, child molester

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-u-st...2--finance.html

It will definitely hurt her. But she will just have a 77% chance of winning instead of 88%.

i wonder if these emails will reveal anything.

or is just another batch of emails that they found.