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It's probably nothing. They were not sent or received by Clinton.

i just read that the Feds don't even have a warrant to read them yet.

Read that too. That's kind of perplexing. I don't get it. Supposedly, the e-mails were part of the investigation of Weiner - so they could read them? But they weren't part of the investigation of Clinton, so they can't read them?

The doj is saying there's nothing to see here.

The clinton long arm reaches out again I guess?

Well it makes sense. If the emails aren't related to Clinton, it's gonna be hard to get a warrant to read them if their reasoning is clinton.

If they were just trying to nail weiner, then I'd imagine they would've already had the warrant, seeing as he's still under investigation for the sexting crap anyway.

But that would be like the judge granting the cops a warrant to search your house Arch, even though you aren't even a party involved in the investigation.

Pretty much what Swish said. Hillary had correspondence with Weiner, and this remains totally unrelated to the earlier email stuff.

Yes and no.

It sounds like they had permission/warrant to read them in Weiner's case. And it sounds like the doj is saying "well, but you can't use them to go after Clinton".

Kinda like if your buddy was e-mailing about some illegal activity. Cops get a warrant. And in the e-mails your name comes up as someone doing something illegal as well, but the courts say "nah, you can't use that against swish because he wasn't the original target of the warrant."


Confusing I guess.

I have no doubt hillary will skate here yet again.

If the emails weren't sent or received by her, then explain how your point works?

You're argument is that she's guilty by association.

If she didn't send or receive those emails, then you couldn't nail her on anything.

She isn't skating. There's nothing there in the first place. If her name pops up in an email it doesn't mean anything.

It's all in flux right now.

But, if there were things implicating her in the Weiner e-mails, then yeah, go get her.

I think perhaps Comey is just doing a cya here to be honest.


Who knows what's going on?

He's trying to save face.

Sorry but this is painfully obvious.

The FBI director is a republican. He sent a letter to the republican committee talking about taking a look into these emails, most likely because he got a crap ton of, well, crap, over how he went about Hillary's first investigation over the emails.

It's not a hillarys fault he botched the witch hunt. Maybe if they actually had something on her it would be a slam dunk case.

That's he problem with witch hunts. Even if you MIGHT have a legitimate case, the moment you start reaching for anything that can be remotely perceived as suspicious, you end up dalluting the evidence and make yourselves look like fools.

U call what we have a border wall ... *LOL* ... someone needs to try again ... our border is about as secure as their's right now ...

PS. There going to build a wall to cover the ENTIRE PART of their country that needs it .. riddle me this batman ... what % of our our border with Mexico does that roughly 2k miles of FENCE cover in our country? ..

Ya fantasy land .. oBUMa says oBUMa care is doing just fine and working the way it was intended .. and were the ones in fantasy land .. *L* ..

Maybe just MAYBE were voting for possibly the biggest jackass ever is because of the shape of our country ..

Your ability to IGNORE THE FACTS IS INCREDIBLE .. i mean whats not to like ..

- 20 TRILLION IN DEBT .. ya . Whooohooo .. HIVE FIVE my man ..

- OBUMA CARE COSTS SPINNING OUT OF control ... YESSSssss ...

- JOBS GOING OVERSEAS DAILY ... COOL .. our kids toys wil cost 90 cents less soon ..

- RFUGEES that we don't know who they are and some want to KILL us being shoved down our throats ... not sure if i want to get stabbed, shot or BLOWN UP .. quoting your girl ... WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE ..

Exactly what part of that is FANTASY ...

Hi Saul ... how's it going ... *L* ..

What more do we need to know other than HOW MANY MORE LIES SHE CAN TELL ..

SHE BLEACHED BIT her server and Comey can't find INTENT .. *LOL* ,..

Him and Lynch should be in JAIL ALSO ..

MAN .... do i HATE when this happens .. REALLY HATE IT ... logging on and not knowing where all MY WORK EMAILS CAME FROM ...

Hmmm .... oh wait .. i bet RUSSIA DID IT ... them SOB's .. *LOL*

i can't even believe some of the crap these people say .. and some appearantly actually believe it ..

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/...n-computer.html

Abedin reportedly pleads ignorance of how emails at center of latest Clinton probe got on computer


Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin reportedly has said she does not know how tens of thousands of emails related to the FBI investigation of her boss' personal server were found on a laptop she shared with her now-estranged husband, former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner.

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The Washington Post reported that Abedin was not a regular user of the laptop in question. The paper also reported that Abedin's lawyers did not bother to search the device for work-related emails after she agreed to turn over such messages to the State Department.

On Saturday, a senior law enforcement official told Fox News that the laptop contained "five digits," or at least 10,000, emails of interest to investigators.

The source also told Fox News that law enforcement officials think it's highly unlikely that all of the newfound emails are duplicates, as the Clinton campaign has suggested. The Post reported, citing former FBI officials, that investigators would likely use a computer program to weed out duplicate emails before examining the remaining messages for possible criminality.

Meanwhile, The New York Times reported that several Clinton allies have suggested the Democratic nominee distance herself from Abedin, who has had a professional relationship with Clinton for two decades. In that capacity, Clinton's team defended an unusual employment arrangement in which Abedin was paid by the Clinton Foundation, a consulting firm called Teneo and the State Department all at once.

Clinton also stood by Abedin when Weiner's first online sex scandal cost him his seat in Congress, and when his second imploded his bid for New York mayor. When Abedin announced her separation from Weiner earlier this year, it was Clinton's campaign that sent her statement to reporters.

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Others suggested to the Times that the latest twist in the email investigation would make it impossible for Clinton to make Abedin part of her White House team if she is elected president next month. The paper also reported that Abedin did not travel with Clinton on a swing through Florida Saturday, instead working out of the campaign's Brooklyn headquarters.

"We of course stand behind her," Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta told reporters, adding Abedin has "completely and voluntarily complied with and cooperated with the investigation."

The Post reported that Abedin gave a sworn deposition this past June, saying that she had "looked for all the devices that may have any of my State Department work on it and ... gave them to my attorneys for them to review for all relevant documents."

Two months earlier, Abedin told the FBI that her attorneys had asked the State Department about how to conduct a review of work messages from her personal laptop and Blackberry, but received no response.

The FBI announced Friday that it had restarted an investigation into emails Clinton sent on a private server system while secretary of state, as a result of a probe into Weiner's, “sexting,” or sending sexually-suggestive electronic messages, to a teenage girl.

The FBI conducted a roughly two-year investigation into Clinton’s use of a private server system, finding several emails marked as classified and concluding that she had been “extremely careless.” However, the agency did not find evidence that Clinton had been criminally negligent and did not recommend criminal charges to the Justice Department.

WOW .... another sworn affadivit to be IGNORED ... what a SHOCKER ...

Then damm RUSKIES ... *L* ... lets see if Huma can get to the 25 or so lies Hillariy's blessed us with over this ... it appears she's off to a really good start as this ones a WHOPPER!!!

U know the old saying .. BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER ...

FLY Huma FLY .. *LOL* ..

Trump=skumbag, ignorant idiot. Yes he even made the comment that he could shoot somebody and people would still vote for him. Hillary on the other hand can shoot people, while grabbing the crotch of the Pope and Mother Teresa on nation TV, and many of her supports wouldn't even blink, or would claim that it never happened.

PSSST ... it was the RUSSIANS!!!!!!

Cause there AFRAID OF HILLARY cause she's been SO ROUGH ON THEM ...

Maybe that's true. But we already know for a fact that trump has grabbed people by the crotch and people will still vote for him

Like you, for example

Oh, Donald. So deep

Your correct about my vote bro. just like you vote for Hillary knowing her husband grabbed lots of crotches and she blamed the women for it.

Because a scorned woman lashing out is comparable to someone bragging about sexual assault.

I would love to see you explain that to a group of sexual assault victims with a straight face without getting slapped.

That isn't the part that shocks me.

The part that shocks me is here we have a former U.S. senator, who very well may be our next president, openly suggesting that an election in hot spot of the world should have been rigged.

Actually the part that shocks me is that nobody is even talking about it! I haven't seen it at all on mainstream media (the very small amount that I've looked since that tape came out, anyway.) You are the only person who responded to my post and I do appreciate that.

I'm just trying to figure out the reasoning why this isn't a bigger deal. It can't be the age of the tape-- the Billy Bush/Trump tape was even older. The content of this tape, tampering with an election, is highly pertinent given that our own major election is coming up in 9 days.

Anyway, I know from past threads that some of the liberals on here hold pro-Palestinian views. I wonder how they feel about Hillary's comments about rigging a Palestinian election.

So let me get this straight.

We've been trying to rig elections in the Middle East for decades now, but all of a sudden you're trying to relate this to rigging the elections stage side?

Please.

I had the pleasure of being on a security detail for 3 months in Israel.

Do you know what The Hamas are?

LMFAO I would tell women that Trump is a ignorant ass and don't trust him in a room alone. That's called truth.

Now I would tell those same women not to be alone with Bill because not only with he grope you, but Hillary will tell everybody in the world that it's your fault you got grabbed and she would do her best to destroy your life for being assaulted.

Now if that is explained to any woman with a IQ above 30 she will understand who needs slapped the hardest.

Good luck with that. Apparently the majority of women don't even remotely hold your views. He's gonna get smoked in the women vote.

So if you can't even convince me, what makes you think this ideology is somehow gonna go over well with women across the country?

You should probably take a good look as to why after everything that's happened, women are still gonna choose Hillary over Trump.

Because there's a huge disconnect on how you, a man, is viewing it compared to the majority of women.

I know a lot about Hamas and various other groups operating in that area. However, instead of me rambling on about this, it would be better for you to share your experiences of being on a security detail for 3 months in Israel. What was it like there? Did you fear for your safety? Did any particularly noteworthy things happen? Did you witness Iron Dome in action?

Apologies for all the questions but this would actually be a great time for you to share your experiences with the board as opposed to us bickering back and forth like usual.

I can't convince you because your closed minded on this. You have dug your heels in and refused to believe Hilliary is anything short of Mother Teresa.

If you can sit there and actually believe that a woman who has been assaulted would not go bonkers over another woman blaming HER for the assault. Then you just have no clue about woman and about humans in general. If you want to see how this goes just walk up to any woman who has been assaulted and YOU tell her it was her fault she was assaulted. Just video that for all of us so we can see and hear the slap.

I think the country itself is beautiful.

It's also the most heavily paranoid country I've ever been in.

I thought London has cameras all over the place.

Bro, I swear to god they got a camera for a camera posted up on every street corner, every ally, any little crack and.....there's cameras everywhere. If you pee on a pole, somebody saw it.

Before I go on, let me make this clear that I'm only speaking for myself, nobody else who's had the pleasure of being in that country.

Anyway, at first it feels really creepy at first. Soldiers walk the street 24/7. It doesn't matter if your American or Mongolian or whatever, if you're not Israeli people eye ball you with suspicion. So if you're the kind of person that values privacy....you better get over that real quick.

I was on a security detail, but I was the driver for a few of the 7th Army generals and colonels. So being over there on essentially mission is completely different from being over there as a civilian. So unfortunately I can't give you a typical tourist opinion if that what you was hoping for.

We all heard about the iron dome but unfortunately not of us got to see it intercept any rockets. I mean I guess technically that's a good thing, but from a soldier standpoint that would've been AMAZING to witness live. We have a similar system in Iraq that would intercept motar rounds in Balad.

The Israeli army and civilian people are generally nice once they identify who you are. Unfortunately I've seen first hand that they aren't the most politest to Muslims. I mean I get it.

But watching Israeli soldiers scream and yell at 12 year old Palestinian kids isn't enjoyable, and it took a lot for me to not say anything. It's not my country so as a visitor I have to have discipline and keep my mouth shut while I was there. I was there representing the US army, not my personal feelings.

They do a lot of on the spot searches on Palestinian people. Again, it's rough to watch but our escorts told us they just got attacked a few weeks ago so everybody was on more of an edge than normal.

The part that shook me was once we got escorted close to the Gaza strip. I mean.....bro it's an active war zone. So many bombed out buildings, you start seeing shells on the ground, it's.....it was more depressing to see that than being in Afghanistan. I'm not exaggerating.

They started pointing out the tunnels Hamas would use to attack. They filled a lot of them up with cement and such, which of course makes sense. But it was actually interesting.

I'm not an engineer, but some of the guys I was with started pointing out how the tunnels were built, and this isn't some guys with shovels. The tunnels looked professionally done, if you could imagine what that looks like. Like El Chapo was out there doing his thing.

I could go on and on and on but....I was happy when we left. It felt like a police state there.

Mother Teresa?

Huh?

The only one sounding close minded around here is you.

So again, I'm not a woman. Go convince the majority of women why they should vote for trump.

Go tell those women who been sexually assaulted that they are close minded on trump.

Your boy is gonna get smoked by the women vote. So go talk to them and express your thoughts.

Hillary.

Done wasting my time with you this morning bro, Going to watch some football, and baseball, and enjoy some time with my wife. Have a good day. Enjoy your day, we can butt heads on Monday

Convince me I should vote for Hillary. Oh, that's right, you CAN'T. She looks like a weak twit in my mind.

***Let it be known, just so you don't ASSUME, I didn't vote for Trump either.

I can't believe I am even replying to this. I mean come on, man. You answer your own "question" in your last sentence. It's because all of your accusations and speculations are figments of your imagination and never happened.

Except, however.......

Trump really DID say that and many other offensive things yet, people still think he is the best choice for President.

pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. It's always good to get people's real-life experience on things. Watching TV and reading stuff on the internet can give people a warped sense of reality on things although in this case, it more or less matches up.

I do value my privacy and would have a hard time living in such an area. That said, the privacy we still have is quickly evaporating but that's a whole other topic.

Because of your experiences, do you think that American politicians should be in the business of tampering with Palestinian elections to get better leaders in there? My initial reaction is no but I'm curious what you think having actually been there.

That's fine, DM.

If you don't vote for Clinton it's whatever.

But you didn't vote for trump.

So my point is about the women who are voting for Clinton over trump. And there's a host of reasons for that.

Not to hijack the thread but, England has a gazillion CCTV cameras because of the IRA. During "the troubles" the IRA would often drop bombs off in trash cans etc. on the street and then call it in before it exploded. They removed trash cans and also started putting CCTV everywhere. I am not making excuses for it but, that's what 30 years of terrorism on your streets does to you. These days they use it primarily for crime.

There are some great Banksy murals poking fun at the "One Nation Under CCTV".

I hold your same belief. I don't think the US should be in the business of trying to rig elections overseas.

The problem is that once you scratch below the surface, it starts getting complicated. You probably aren't gonna like where I'm going with this, but hear me out.

Anything can be viewed as trying to rig, or more commonly known as 'influencing, an election.

When presidents comment on election in European countries, that can be viewed as trying to rig it.

Then comes historical precedents.

We didn't just rig the elections in Iraq and Afghanistan. We literally installed our own puppets to run those countries.

I'm sure you can go back even further, decades, of our government trying to pull stuff like that off.

So overall, I don't like rigging elections in the Middle East.

But then you take a look at Palestine. So, our country is pro-Israel. We give them billions a year, on top of weapons and equipment.

So why on earth would we NOT try to influence an election that ended up having Hamas win the majority of seats?

Them winning the majority essentially guarantees more bloodshed. Hamas are terrorist. Period.

So if I'm the US, I'm trying to rig that election simply to have a US friendly government in Palestine so that I can increase the chances -however slightly it may be- of finally bringing some sort of peace in that region.

Swish...have you heard of the book "Palestine" by Joe Sacco? He is a comic artist/journalist who went to Israel, the Gaza Strip, West Bank etc. and he interviewed everybody from the street to the higher ups, police, troops etc. both sides of the story and then he illustrated it as a graphic novel. It is awesome. He also did one in Bosnia. I think you would dig it.

There are a host of reasons to vote for Trump over Clinton, too. She would be the absolute LAST person I would vote for in this election. But, regardless of my opinion, I'll let you get back to pigeonholing women into groups, thinking we are all shallow idiots that only care about a few lewd comments made by a guy in a locker room.

Why doesn't it concern anyone that Hillary sold uranium to Russia merely to fatten her wallet through donations to the Clinton Foundation?

This has been proven, y'know?

A candidate for president sold a nuclear bomb making ingredient to the only people that are as good at making nuclear bombs as we are.

Anyone care to share their thoughts on this?

I get it... it's a little off-putting, but I get it.

In swish's defense, no one on earth doesn't think that Trump didn't act on those comments, and even though his alleged objects of groping let him just because he was a star that doesn't make him as a president any more agreeable.