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Arch, I know you weren't talking to me. However, I've consistently said this was a close race. Do I think Hillary wins? Yes. I feel the same way about the election that you do.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/...eds-call-sober/

original source if you'd prefer not to look at a conservative site: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25842

It's an email from Jennifer Palmieri to John Podesta telling him to sober Hillary up at 4:30pm.

I realize most of us, including me, drink. I don't stigmatize people for that but in an election between a non-drinker and a drinker, doesn't the non-drinker inherently carry less risk?

What if the president gets an urgent report of incoming missiles or a terrorist attack or whatever and has to make a tough, immediate decision? That's something we should all think about. The president's job isn't like the typical nine to fiver who can have a few beers after work and not have to worry about their job until the next day (that might be an optimistic description for some of us but you get the idea.)

Come on Haus, you want them to start thinking now?

Just get out and vote for her early before more damning evidence comes out on why she is unfit to be president.

Do any of us actually think Hillary Clinton is on Twitter?

Actually she does post on there. It is a combination of her posts and people she pays to represent her.


However it would not suprise me if she lies about posting on there.

She supposedly does post on that account sometimes. As I understand it, her posts end with -H although even that is unclear.

In any case, the official Hillary Clinton Twitter account linked to an article titled "How to Choose Between the Most Corrupt, Least Popular Candidates of All Time". Call it an honest mistake. It's still pretty funny.

Even if she does post on there, it probably goes through like fifteen layers of vetting before it actually goes out. This is not Trump up in the middle of the night raging.

Also, I read that article and it was very pro-Hillary.

Upon closer inspection, it appears that August 8 2015 was a Saturday...

I think the biggest risk variance for a CiC is their need for attention. Attention starved people do stupid things, see everything Trump has said in this election. Also see how newspaper comic writers show their stupidity by believing every alt-right conspiracy they heard. They're very dumb loose cannons.

Today's the last day to register to vote here in CT.

Probably elsewhere too.

My main concern is who affects me.

The Rocky Hill State Representative - incumbent - Democrat Antonio Guerrera - good job Tony you've got my vote.

And The Rocky Hill State Senator (9th CT district) - incumbent Paul Doyle - hope you lose. (Vote Republican Earle Roberts)

what glorious morning!!!

but then, i see more whining...and now something about alcohol?

where do you guys come up with this stuff?

OMG OMG OMG, i just saw hillary use a cough drop!!! is she...is she gonna DIE soon?!!!

*LOL* ... are u really this naive .... WOW ...

Lets see her ...

Lynch is leaving DC to go to Colorodo ...

She then has a CHANCE meeting with Bill on a tarmac in ARIZONA ... hmmm .... seems to me Zona is a LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE WAY ...

Not a real good flight path ...

THEN her and Slick Willie have a talk about golf and grandkids AFTER KICKING EVERYONE OFF THE PLANE and telling everyone NO PHOTOS ...

Then less than a week later the COVER UP IS FINSIHED ..

Damm Pitt .. are u kidding me??? ..

I have seen people on here suggesting the Clinton's pay hitmen and now folks are suggesting she is a lush hovering over the nuke button. Meanwhile, the other guy is caught on tape boasting about sexual assault not to mention all the other insensitive, insulting, idiotic, repellent things he has said on the trail and beyond.

Honestly, this is ridiculous and desperate measures to now google search "Clinton with a pint glass" as evidence of her drinking.

I am exhausted talking about, hearing about and reading about this election. Let the people decide and no matter what the result I am sure we shall all erupt in here on Nov. 8 and beyond.

Ya ... holding people ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS doesn't seem to be a real strong suit of yours ...

It takes at most 5 minutes a day ... she has so many BUCKETS OF LYING, CHEATING and MAKING HERSELF RICH schemes going on .. '

ITS EASY TO DO ...

PS. She does it to herself .. big difference between TURNING A BLIND EYE TO IT and simply TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!

U got that market CORNERED ... a MONOPLOY ....

SWISH ... I THINK I ... might ... start TYPING

LIKE ... this

Yea it's really horrible on the eyes. I can't bring myself to even read it anymore.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/3...or-hillary.html

Schoen: I'm a Democrat, and I worked for Bill Clinton, but I can't vote for Hillary

Editor's note: The following column first appeared on TheHill.com.

I made one of the most difficult decisions of my life — not just political, but also personal — on Sunday night.

During my weekly show on "The Fox Report" hosted by Harris Faulkner with Pat Caddell and John LeBoutillier, I indicated that it will be very difficult, if not impossible, for me to vote for Hillary Clinton on November 8.

Why did I say this?

Not for any small reason.

I am now convinced that we will be facing the very real possibility of a constitutional crisis with many dimensions and deleterious consequences should Secretary Clinton win the election.

FBI Director James Comey’s decision to make public the fact that more emails potentially pertinent to the Clinton probe had been found on Anthony Weiner’s computer changes the impact of this election on the future of the country.

I say this because regardless of what Secretary Clinton did or didn’t do or what her aide, Huma Abedin, did or didn’t do or even what Anthony Weiner did or didn’t do, I am now convinced that we will be facing the very real possibility of a constitutional crisis with many dimensions and deleterious consequences should Secretary Clinton win the election.

In the best case scenario, there will be at the very least a criminal investigation of president-elect Clinton. And there will be a criminal investigation of Huma Abedin, which is apparently ongoing. Furthermore, there will be potential investigations into the actions of the Justice Department and most of all the FBI and its director, James Comey.

After the past eight years wherein America has become progressively more and more divided and a campaign season that has magnified these divisions, I fear for that we will not be able to withstand this kind of continued scandal.

Let me contextualize this point a bit more as the term “Watergate” gets thrown around alot these days.

Donald Trump likes to say that the Clinton email scandal is worse than Watergate. I remember Watergate very well.

What troubled me most, other than the crimes committed, was that the United States was paralyzed and unable to act. President Nixon and the government were rendered impotent, unable to govern and meet its responsibilities to the American public.

I worry that the same thing could happen after a victory by Secretary Clinton and could carry on into her term of office.

There will be no goodwill or honeymoon period for Clinton. Her first 100-days agenda will take a backseat to partisan divisions and polarization with little chance of constructive legislative action occurring.

We have seen that a hyper-partisan, gridlocked Washington is bad for the country. There is no reason to believe that Clinton’s tenure will be anything but more of the same in this way and, most likely, a lot worse.

Further, Russian President Vladimir Putin said (tongue-in-cheek) that we are not a banana republic.‎ I greatly fear we could become one if Secretary Clinton is elected president. Our national security will continue to be jeopardized by ongoing investigations by the FBI, and potentially the Justice Department and Congress, putting us at immediate risk of more assertive actions in Europe, Middle East and Asia by the Russians and Chinese.

Moreover, we simply cannot face a situation where the president elect may need or want a pardon from the president to govern. Or worse yet, need to pardon herself after she takes office.

As of now, I have no confidence that either of those questions will be answered by Election Day or that we will have full clarity on an investigation into what could be as many as 650,000 emails that found their way to Weiner and Abedin’s computer.

However, in good conscience, and as a Democrat, I am actively doubting whether I can vote for the Secretary of State. I also want to make clear that I cannot vote for Donald Trump as his world view and mine are very different.

I remain a Democrat and proud of the work I did for six years for President Bill Clinton between 1994 and 2000 and I write with extreme sadness. But I cannot in the waning days of the election make the case that Secretary Clinton should be elected.

I still share her worldview and am much closer to her approach to policies than I am to Donald Trump. That said, with America facing a potential constitutional crisis after her election, I am not able, under the circumstances we are now facing, to vote for Secretary Clinton.

Man ... Russia must have gotten to him ... *LOL* ..

Anyway, I want to continue that conversation about globalization. It was really good.

I want to point out again that globalization is inevitable. Typically the first step in globalization, or unity even at the lowest level of nations/countries/tribes, is to try and make peace and unite militaries.

So if we choose to only use modern history as the baseline starting point, then NATO can be considered as the beginning. April 4th, 1949.

U were allegedly in th military .. u alledgedly were overseas ... u alledgedly saw what third world countries are like .. u are an intelligent human being .. u have daughters ..

And yet your OK with globalization ...

Makes no sense what so ever ..

NONE ...

I went overseas a spoiled brat ... i came back a VERY VERY GRATEFUL man for being born in this country ... APPRECIATTE anything and everything I'm allowed to do here ..

How is globalization good for your daughters? ...

So was the Orlando nightclub shooting. You completely missed the point. The president is on call, 24/7. A terrorist attack, or incoming missiles, or any of countless other urgent situations can literally happen at any point, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Having an inebriated president is simply not acceptable.

Now, that was last year; obviously she wasn't the president. So the question comes can she curtail her drinking so that if/when she needs to make an imperative decision will she be able to, or will she be compromised? (This is assuming that she indeed wins the election and we should all be praying/hoping that she does not.)

Haus .. she HANDLED BENGHAZI so well .... how can we doubt her ...

I can't believe I'm bout to respond to you.

My wife is German.

That makes my daughters half German half American.

The progress of globalization is the reason I got to meet my wife and have my two daughters in the first place.

So how is globalization good for my daughters? Kind of obvious now, isn't it.

Also, why do you only bring up third world countries. Globalization will affect all countries, even first world countries relationship with other first world countries.

Good, or bad.

Also, allegedly? The hell are you talking about?

ONE WEEK TO GO!!!

I'm shocked you responded also ... I've asked u at least 25 questions and this is the first one u answered .. if u call what u gave an answer .. i'd call it more of your smug, condescending BS .. but it was an answer ...

Your prolly responding cause i said your intelligent ... *L* ... its a joke, lighten up ...

For all u know, I could be a 9 year old ISIS rebel holed up in a cave somewhere wasting time in between planning my next jihad attack in the US THANKS TO oBUMa and your girl .... just sayin ..

Back to the topic ...

- u were in the army correct? .. i ASSumed u were stationed in Germany at some point .. i hate ASSuming but just like u responded to me sometimes I do things against my better judgement .. *L*

Did u meet her on a business trip for your multi-national company? .. oh wait .. those also happend before "globalization" became the hip thing .. so excuse my ignorance cause i'm not sure what globalization has to do with you meeting your wife ... maybe i would if your answer wasn't so void of information along with being smug and condescending ..

I'm sure this question will be met with your normal lack of a response or sarcastic, condescending remarks ..

What are the other first world countries u speak of that are going to help us in this global world u believe is inevitable ... witch ONES are they again ...

How's GLOBALAZATION working out in Europe? . Seems to be a FAIRLY BUMPY TRIAL BALOON ...

Lest we not forget that RAPE is OK in most of the middle east .. China is going to all of a sudden decide to BE KIND AND PLAY FAIR .. China is not quite a bastion of HUMAN RIGHTS ...

I'd say its naive at best to think a global world that gets along is anythng remotely close to POSSIBLE!!!

And i was taking about your daughters future ... but u knew that and just prefer the attention responses like that draw .. and like a fool .. i actually gave u the attention u appearantly need ...

Aww man.

I was just getting warmed up.

Did you ask an actual question in this ridiculous post or are you bragging about something?

I really can't tell if you want dialogue or are just asking a bunch of rhetorical questions.

I learn by asking questions ...

How is globalization good for your daughters FUTURE? ...

How is it not? more integration of cultures and ideas from around the world. more access to foreign products, faster development of technology as more brilliant minds collaborate around the world.

leads to a smarter population. more open minded population. more peaceful population.

there are risk to globalization, such as if countries can't agree on economic policies, or global recessions, etc.

but overall, IMO, it's inevitable anyways, so might as well point out the good it brings, and work on policies to make the bad as less impactful as possible.

How do u mesh the culture of how middle eastern countries treat their women and gays .. and thats an honest question .. i don't undertand how that is going to work .. please tell me ..

Are they going to start treating women and gays the way we do .. or are we going to adhere to there standards? .. is there some middle ground i'm not aware of ...

And thats just one CULTURAL issue .. we also have other human rights, economic and environmental issues ...

Your worried about fracking causing earth quakes ... how do u feel about china and the amount of emissions they have? .. how do we solve that one? ..

j/c

God help us.

the same way cultures have changed right here in America: Time and knowledge, and understanding.

as well as "hey, get with the program or you're gonna miss this train"

it's only been 200-300 years right here in America since we were burning witches at the stake.

it's only been 200 years since we had slavery.

has it even been a 100 years since women finally gained the right to vote in this country?

and just last year, Gays finally were allowed to marry across the country.

So i understand why you keep bringing up the middle east. what i don't understand is why you can't seem to acknowledge the fact that we aren't that far ahead when it comes to bigotry toward women and gays in this country.

so let's keep things in perspective, here.

when it comes to globalization, you're talking progress. so it's progress in the economy, progress with regards to social issues (like you mentioned the treatment of gays and women), as well as progress toward living conditions and such, right?

So, i'm going to be straight up truthful with you. this is why i sometimes get impatient and really annoyed with posters here in DT.

because some of you guys really come across as thinking the entire middle east is some hell hole. you guys think of Africa the same way, as if it's some big ass continent with Sarah McLachlan trying to get you guys to donate 15 cents a day.

the entire region isn't like that. at all.

So when you're mentioning the middle east, remember that in UAE, Qatar, Turkey, those women walk around in two piece bikinis in the pool resorts and the beaches.

trust me, everytime i go to the beach around Adana, Turkey(before i was married, disclaimer lol) the first thing my cousin and i would do is try to run that R&B game on those fine ass women like we was Keith Sweat or Boyz 2 Men.

however, one big thing you're not realizing is that most of the time you don't HAVE to sacrifice cultural issues in order to deal with foreign countries.

if that was the case, we should NEVER make deals with China, they violate human rights damn near as much as some of the middle eastern countries.

So ask yourself this: if cultural issues is such a huge problem....then how do we make it work right here in America?

you do realize you live in a country that is the epitome of Globalization, right?

we have pretty much somebody from every single country in the world living here in the USA. do we have our problems? sure, but we make it work, and this country has way more rewards and upside than it does problems and downsides.

It's one of the many reason's why we're the greatest country in the world. our multiculturalism, which includes people from the same parts of the world you're worried about, lives here with minor problems here and there.

But yea, when it comes to economic policies, look, the US and Europe both try to push China with their emission problems.

China is reluctant to play ball simply because their lack of regulation on foreign businesses and manufacturing allows them to continue to be an economic power house.

but just like everything else, that crap is already starting to change. their people are complaining. bro, their people walk around with mask on their face from breathing in the smog. there are certain times when they aren't even allowed to be outside because it gets so bad. that, combined with the pressure of the EU and the US to push for better emission regulations, and that will change too.

but it comes with time.

remember bro. our own cities in the US use to look like that. Smog overshadowing the city skyline. it's still a problem in certain cities, but it's WAAAAYY down compared to what it was before i was born.

there's always gonna be issues and risk to deal with when countries start collaborating on projects and slowly move toward a unified front.

but there's no perfect process. if there was, it would've been done already.

This is a country where everyone has the right to freedom. If all the other countries were like us, without dictators, war lords or royal families calling all the shots, it could be workable.

But realize too that the Middle East and the West have always been on other ends of the spectrum and it would take 100's of years to resolve the differences if it's even possible then.

What I think the result of Globalization would be is an improvement for the lessor countries, reduced job security as well as a lowering of our standard of living in the U.S. and increased control and riches for Corporations and the Elite while everyone else gets evened-out as it plays in a communist environment.

I agree that when you're in the Military and get a chance to visit their modern cities it can be a wonderful, eye opening experience. I was in Viet Nam and found the cities, even though the culture was very different, a lot of fun and a great experience too.

But step outside of that environment, where the real people live, and you find them ankle deep in water all day long breaking their backs for enough rice to keep them alive. Those same countries that have bikini clad woman at the hotel pool also have citizens living away from the city in the same primitive environment they've been in for a thousand years.

Globalization has been around since forever. The results pretty much speak for themselves... If they didn't no one would want to do it.

there's plenty of countries around the planet that has freedom

The US does not own a monopoly on that.

to your last point, there's always a difference between appearance and what's going on with the "real" citizens.

my wife's first time visiting the states, she saw all the tourist spots and whatever.

then she moved here.

absurd amount of gun violence, heroin crisis, gang violence, DUI's out the ass, etc etc.

So it's easy as American's to look at other countries and feel superior, until people who aren't from the US start pointing out all the flaws we have.

which is why globalization isn't a one way street. everybody has to bring something to the table in order to part of the discussions in the first place.

If you're talking a "globalized economy", I'm not certain you understand what that means for us, as a country.

We're already seeing, and have for sometime, jobs leaving this country due to lower wages in other countries, AND due to less environmental and gov't. regulations in other countries.

Jobs have been lost, and more will be, here in the u.s. And don't think for a minute that China, Mexico, Thailand, etc are going to raise their wages and introduce environmental regulations to offset.

Globalization from a cultural perspective is a good thing, in my opinion. But I don't think that's at the heart of what you're talking about. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Globalization is the worst thing possible. Funny how it only benefits the rich. I'm sure the illegal sand miners in Malaysia who get paid 10 cents a week is really happy that the UAE is part of the global economy.

i know exactly what it means for the country.

i also think there's ways to make it work without screwing over our country.

The EU has done it. the EU started screwing up once they went from only a market based economy to trying to determine who's allowed in or out of a country. see the UK.

the EU is the biggest economy in the world. it has it's problems, but it has worked.

but they started off united their countries within the continent.

and that's how we should approach it. i think an North America version of the EU would be a massive hit.