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Lots in there .. thanks for answering ..

I don't have the time to go through it .. but again thanks for answering ..... a few quick points ...

- IMO their is no comparision between allowing gays to marry and women to vote to having everyone turn a blind eye to gays being thrown off buildings or a women needing 4 male witnesses for rape to be even charged ... thats not a good comparision at all ..

- u know in the middle east its about religious beliefs and sharia law ... crap last year a lady was sentenced to stoning for being complicit in her husbands death ... it will prolly be reduced to a hanging due to the international outrage ..

- your right about time and understanding ... but w/o a WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE ... its never going to happen ..

- your right about the fact there's no perfect process .. u certainly don't want either of your daughters going to the middle east and needing a male with them to go out in public or to drive ..

- they may wear two piece bikinis at the beaches in SOME SPOTS in the middle east ... u pay attention .. look what happend in europe over the birkini's especially in France after the attack in Niece ... its happening all over Europe ..

Europe is a mini version of globalism with its open borders and one currency ... ITS NOT WORKING WELL ... one countries all ready left and others are putting up borders and will be leaving soon .. U think its a mess now .. WAIT 5 YEARS ...

I don't get it Swish .. you were in the service .. u know this isn't a Kumbya world ..

Not to worry Haus, there will be plenty of other subjects to come after the election where most of these posters are wrong and you can straighten them out. If they will listen that is.

how? everything benefits the rich. the only thing that doesn't benefit the rich is full out socialism.

there's a reason why there's barely any countries, even in europe, who have a pure form of socialism.

the only pure socialist countries that ever "worked" became authoritarian states such as:

Cuba, Russia, North Korea.

Rich people are the ones that create jobs, so of course most policies, globalization or not, will benefit the rich. so while they don't have trickle down economics in places like europe, ya know, the place your boy Sanders likes to bring up all the time, they still have market-based policies interwoven into their hybrid socialist governments.

and market-based policies will always benefit the ones that can create jobs.

Why not? It's part of progress. You're basically saying there is no precedent for horrible crimes committed toward gays by other citizens in this country.

You know damn well that isn't true. We are more tolerant, sure, but we didn't use to.




Is it? Or do people clinge to their religion when they are poor? Again, you're lumping the entire Middle East together when I just specifically told you they aren't all the same. Not even close.



Right because women aren't allowed to vote, drive, or work in ANY of the Middle East countries....



???? In turkey they can do whatever they want. Ya know, the country my grandfather is from. I'm part Turkish, just in case you missed the 100th post of me pointing that out on the boards.



You mean in France where they are making Muslim women take off their burka swimsuits out of disrespect of their religions beliefs?



The border crisis only happened because of the Syrian refugee issue. I lived in Germany for 5 years. The open border thing -called the shengen agreement- was great. We did so much traveling, and a lot of Europeans love it. So I dunno what you're talking about.



Yes, I was in the service. I know this isn't a kumbya world. I deployed 4 times.

Which is why I constantly argue for unity and such. Because I want the WORLD to stop going to war with each other as much as possible. I want us to be unified. We don't have to be the same to be together.

I mean you and others are so negative. Perfection is impossible. 100 percent unity is impossible.

But damn bro, that doesn't mean we should reach the highest level possible. Stop with the defeatist attitude. We should ALWAYS try for unity.

of course the rich always benefits. Capitalism is only feudalism with a few minor twists. Globalization only hurts marginalized groups more. The people at the most base level of any of industry are getting extremely exploited in the names of 'progress' and 'globalization'. The people who harvest the natural resources for us to build upon, are most likely slaves, harvesting resources with only one hand. Globalization does not promote freedom, independence or peace unfortunately.

I respectfully disagree with you. I don't think you know what it would mean, and has meant.

Well then we have nothing to discuss. You're busy trying to tell me yet again on what and how I think.

No Diam I wasn't kidding you. It seems everything on the right is one big conspiracy theory. An investigation means guilt. Everyone is ganging up on Trump. The election is rigged.

Don't you remember the last big conspiracy theory? Obama was born in Kenya. That went on for five years only to be proven wrong. Yet you guys sound off the same old horn. I find it pathetic myself.

All you guys can do is play one giant game of connect the dots. And in the end, you find out you missed half the dots. How many Benghazi hearings have their been so far? Seven, eight? And still nothing.

The fact someone is re-opened an investigation doesn't mean she's guilty. It's time everyone quit jumping to conclusions and pointing fingers until we find out the results of the investigation. Too many people claim things as facts when they are only rumors and half of the story.

I'm not voting for either one, but reading some of this crap is sickening.

Conspiracy theories .. WOW .. if your not kidding with that one .. YOU ARE AS naive as they come ..

- was there not over 600 requests for ADDITIONAL SECURITY ...

U know what Pit .. screw that ..

U EVER HEAR THE GUYS THAT WERE THERE ON THE GROUND??? .. EVR PITT ..

TRUTH HURTS PIT .. if u haven't let me know .... i'll go dig up some where and then u can tell me about YOUR CONSPIRACY ...

E-mails were ALL BLEACH BIT ... thats what criminals do .. BUT HEY .. it must be a huge right wing conspiracy ...

So much for you being different .. and another one bites he dust ..

Early voting predict who wins. This is good news for Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monk...-for-democrats/

The Democrats have the early voting thing down to a science. Obama showed the way and Clinton did/is doing the same.

Shocker that the Republicans were slow on the uptake.

No, not really.

I simply don't think you understand what economic globalization really means for us, here, in the u.s.

Except I do.

but whatever. It's gonna happen regardless if you "think" I understand or not.

The US is great because we can adapt. If you can't adapt..well..see ya later.

I dunno what's worse, trump messing up prices, or the fact that it cost damn near 3 million for a stupid ass apartment

Trump Place Residents Fear Low-Class Name Is Costing Them a Fortune

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ne.html?ref=yfp



Harvey and Peggy Koeppel did their research before putting their house on the market earlier this year. They checked with real-estate brokers, researched neighborhood sale history, placed ads in all the right places.
And they listed their three-bedroom apartment with sweeping views of the Hudson River, high ceilings, and hardwood floors for a broker-recommended price of $2.85 million. They figured, like almost every apartment in New York, and certainly every apartment in Manhattan, that it would attract a throng of interest, and probably a few offers after an open house, some of them even above the asking price.
Instead, nothing. The open house was a bust. The flood of would-be buyers was a trickle. No offers came through. So the Koeppels cut the price by $55,000.

Still nothing.
Now the only thing they can figure wrong with their apartment is the name on the front of the building: Trump Place.
“The number of people who have even come to look at this place is shockingly low,” Harvey Koeppel said. “It is horrific to be caught up in this maelstrom.”

In a little more than a week, the Trump political phenomenon will have more than likely run its course. The reality TV star will return to New York, and the Republican Party will be left sorting through the wreckage.
But for families like the Koeppels, and thousands of others across the country whose most significant financial asset is inextricably linked with the Trump name, the fallout from the 2016 campaign is very much a contested subject. Will a defeated Trump slink off of the national stage, his name little more than a footnote to history, someone who through a confluence of factors (an abnormally large Republican field, a certain facility with modern media) managed to sneak his way into the nomination?
Or will the Trump name live on beyond 2016 and become synonymous with a certain kind of snarling nativism, demagoguery, and racial resentment. Will Trump be remembered as Michael Dukakis, in other words, or Father Coughlin?

For the residents of Trump Place, or for that matter Trump Parc and Trump Plaza and Trump Plaza Residences New Jersey and Trump Tower in the suburbs of Westchester, this is the $2.85 million question (or in many cases, much much more.) Who, after all, would be in the market for an apartment in Joseph McCarthy Court, or George Wallace Gardens, no matter how good the views or lacquered the hardwood floors?
At Trump Place, a series of architecturally charmless properties on the far West Side of Manhattan just below Riverside Park, residents say they are going to be watching the aftermath of the election more closely than ever with an eye toward what it means for their portfolios.
Already, a petition to have the Trump name removed from the building has garnered 80 signatures out of the 400 or so units across the properties. Backers of the name change say the number is artificially low because many apartment owners in the complex are foreign and rarely make an appearance in the building, so much so that the condo board has been unable to convene a quorum to address the measure.
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Question for Trump supporters, are you pissed at how slow his ground game has been? How would you react if he spent very little money on this election?

That's fine that you believe what happened on the ground explains what went on behind the scenes, but you don't.

Republicans wouldn't have let her off the hook after eight hearings if there was anything to nail her for. How many more do you want? Eight, ten? At some point it's nothing but a witch hunt and voters can see that.

Trump has lied and cheated people at every corner to get where he is. Frivolous law suits, using illegal immigrants and illegal Chinese steal to build his buildings. Of course that makes him an Ambassador against illegal aliens and an advocate for fair trade. lol

You need to figure out that Trump is just as much of a snake and liar as Hillary is. They both suck dude. Pretending he doesn't is a fools dream.

It would be neat if hillary hadn't deleted over 30,000 emails as well.

You know, e-mails that were supposed to be on the gov't. server.

That would be really neat.

She even signed that she turned over all gov't. correspondence. And she hasn't.

There are two different courses for America to follow into the future.
Trump and the Republican way or Clinton and the status quo.

While you sit home waiting for your Boy Scout, the rest of us
will be choosing a course for our future.

I prefer the chance of having reasonable Supreme Court and Federal Judges who follow the Constitution over Hillary and more socially active Judges.

It would be neat if either of these scum bags deserved to be president. But they're not.

Oh and 40, I don't care about someone being a boy scout. I just can't vote for either scum bag. There is a difference even though I know it has seemed to escape you.

No. You don't.

Oh, it IS happening. I have no doubt it will continue to happen. What you don't understand is what it has done, and will continue to do to this country.



How's that "adaptation" working for the middle class? Adapt to the fact that your job is now in China, or Mexico, etc.



I understand you have "real world" experience in foreign countries. But, the military is not business experience.

Aside from service jobs here in the u.s. (lawn mowing, physical construction work, service industry jobs, and health care, farming, etc. Name me a job that can't be shipped over seas and done cheaper.

What you're advocating is killing the economy.

Computer techs? Over seas. Manufacturing? Off shore. Insurance? Can easily be done off shore.

Engineering? Easily done over seas.

See, the vast majority of people in this country - wait, I take that back - a lot of people in this country rely on their jobs, not gov't, to take care of them.

When enough jobs are gone, who's going to pay the tab? The chinese? Thai's? Mexicans? Filipinos?

What escapes me is your refusal to admit you are voting for Hillary and the status quo by sitting home on your butt.

I am not fooled.

Still trying to tell me what I think huh?

Pointless.

Anyway, Hillary 2016. Making the butt hurt posters cry in glorious fashion.

How many fraud cases this guy got?


Trump accused of tax fraud in Mexico

http://thehill.com/latino/303691-trump-accused-of-tax-fraud-in-mexico?ref=yfp

A Mexican government official filed a federal criminal tax fraud complaint Friday against Donald Trump in Tijuana, Mexico, related to Trump Ocean Resort, a real estate project that folded in 2009.

Jaime Martínez Veloz, a former member of Mexico’s Congress who is now a mid-level official with the Mexican federal government, also sent a letter to the mayor of Tijuana, asking city hall to determine if any local regulations were violated by the failed development.

Martínez filed the criminal complaint as a private citizen. Under the Mexican legal system, private criminal complaints are filed directly to prosecutors, not to the police.

In the letter, Martínez said he’d filed a complaint seeking for federal charges against the GOP presidential nominee so that “once legal requirements demanded by national laws are gathered, the corresponding legal action can be executed,” reported La Jornada newspaper.

The complaint alleges that the development avoided paying taxes in Mexico on pre-development sales, which reportedly topped $32.5 million. Trump’s presidential campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump and his partners, Los Angeles-based developer Irongate Wilshire and Mexican company P.B. Impulsores, allegedly collected $32.5 million from customers before giving up on the project. Trump Ocean Resort started selling the properties in 2006, but folded before construction had started in 2009 after the housing crash.

Martínez singled out Trump in the complaint, saying the slow start in construction evidenced tax fraud "by Mr. Donald Trump against the Mexican state because beyond defrauding investors he also committed fraud by not paying taxes in Mexico for the mercantile operations he took part in."

It’s not clear if Trump received any of the $32.5 million that was collected, or if he did, how much he received. Irongate and P.B. Impulsores later agreed to return at least $7.25 million to the purchasers.

In subsequent lawsuits, Trump and the Trump Organization claimed that the Republican presidential nominee had merely leased his name to the project, and was not directly involved in the development.

But purchasers said Trump gave the impression that he was personally involved in the project.

The brochure for the resort included a picture of Trump and quoted him as saying it would be “the most spectacular place in all of Mexico,” according to the LA Times.

The Trump Ocean Resort is not the only Mexican deal that has gone south for the billionaire developer.

In 2007, Trump struck a deal to take his Miss Universe pageant to Mexico, and properties on the Mayan Riviera were set as collateral. After that deal went sour, Trump allegedly won the land in arbitration, but was unable to collect.

Years later, Trump tweeted about that case, saying, “don't do business with Mexico!”






Trump has proposed the renegotiation or cancellation of the North American Free Trade Agreement and to build a wall on the border with Mexico. He has also called for a 35 percent tariff on products made by American companies in Mexico.

Nah, I'm not telling you what you think. I'm telling you you don't understand "economic globalization" and all the negative ramifications it has for us, here, in the u.s.

And, truthfully, for all the european countries you espouse as wonders.

Anyway, Trump is up in 2 out of 3 polls. Just saw that on yahoo.

If your girl wins, congrats to you. If trump wins.........don't do anything serious, ok?

Again you're trying to tell me what I think.

I do understand economic globalization, but what you're failing to realize is that I'm pointing out the good while I ALREADY said we have to work on the bad.

It's not my fault you don't pay attention. Stop lying. It's getting annoying.

If trump wins, however unlikely, then I hope he is given a fair shake to implement his plans. I've said that before.

but I guess that's the difference between me and you. I don't wish failure on somebody out of hatred. You already admitted to that.

The technical term is schadenfreude. Wishing failure on others.

I just call it being an unreasonable jerk.

Call it what you want.

And swish, I pay attention. I get what's going on. You apparently don't.

I'm not lying in any manner, so quit falsely accusing me of that - it makes you look like you have no argument. (which, truthfully, you don't on globalization of economies)

I was honest when I said I hope Hillary fails. I do not like her or her policies. I won't hide behind some "Well, I could go either way" crap. Facade.

You do.

When jobs get "globalized" over seas, who wins? Not the people that relied on their jobs for a living. Right?

Plenty of republicans blasting Trump for a variety of reasons from the start.. virtually ZERO democrats calling out Hillary, ever, for anything... Plus, your own wording, Trump is in a lawsuit, Trump will be in court... Hillary SHOULD BE, but isn't. Get Hillary into court, do a full discovery... my guess is that she would perjure herself, just her husband did... and never paid a price for... while others go to jail for perjury and for mishandling classified information, the teflon Clintons just keep marching forward with their lemmings behind them cheering.

The e-mails have already proven, at a minimum, she worked unethically with the DNC to screw Bernie Sanders.. yet he and most of his supporters raced to Hillary's side.... The e-mails have proven that she has unethically collaborated with the media and received advanced information on debates, e-mails have already proven that she flat out lied to the families of the Benghazi victims... e-mails have already proven that those in her camp were responsible for recruiting people to instigate violence at Trump rallys... but the media doesn't care, they would rather ask her about the Russians and if the Russians and Trump are connected. God forbid any of them risk their job by actually asking her a tough question about the CONTENT of these e-mails and the unethical piece of sh*t she really is...

youre trying to tell me I don't understand something when I do.

That's called lying. If you don't wanna be called a liar, guess what you should probabaly stop doing?

So you'll continue to be called a liar until you stop lying. It's a really simple concept. But I forgot who I was talking to so....lol.

I know you hope she fails. You're unhealthy hatred for her is very troubling. I dunno if it's a superiority issue, or you envy her, or what's going on.

But that crap is disturbing.

Hillary/Kaine 2016.

Where?

And specifically on this board, which is what I was mainly responding to in that post, none of the conservatives except one is bringing it up.

I'm only calling what I'm seeing.

When you have nothing, resort to "you're a lying liar". Sounds like you and Hillary get along real well.

Love ya swish. Hope all is well in your utopia.

You're starting to make no sense now

Are you already drinking? Thought the game didn't start til 8.

You resort to that comment a lot. Further proof you have nothing to say of intelligence.

It's sad, really, the way you try to bully, and when faced with facts, you resort to name calling or cries of "you drinking already?"

You're better than that. I thought. But you keep proving me wrong on that issue. I could list a whole slew of things about you. I respect you though, so I won't.

Often times, when you have nothing to say, it's best to say nothing. Nothing at all. I think that's a song, actually.

Praying for you bud. I do respect you. I know when I'm wrong, I admit it/fess up.

Go Tribe. Just like Sunday night, I'll be in bed before 10. This thing called a job, and being behind due to physical injury and trying to catch up - well, it's been rough. I got it though.

Sucks that I won't be awake to see if the Tribe wins the WS. I'll find out about it tomorrow.

Oh - no, haven't been drinking. Thanks for asking though.

I say plenty that requires intelligent thought. It's not my problem you lack comprehension.

It's not my problem you hate Hillary. Talk to a shrink about that.

Go tribe, go Cavs!! Go Hillary 2016!!

Class. One of us has it. And it's not you. Kinda narrows it down.

Praying for you bud.

Anyways,

I wonder who clintons Supreme Court pick will be

Probably the same pick as Obama's, no one.

Hillary gave $1,042,000 to charity in 2015.

$1,000,000 of it to the Clinton Foundation which is of course tax deductible and she gets to control the money.

In 2013 she gave $1.8 million to herself.

How much money did trump donate in 2015?

Better yet, how much did he pay in taxes.

You might want to first ask: Will hillary win the election.


Don't count your chickens yet.

Seriously, wherever I go, I mostly see Trump signs and none for Clinton. All social media and online polls are dominated by Trump. Honestly I would not be shocked if he won by a landslide.