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Sad. That sucks for him, but was the main reason I was "ok" with him stiffing us for Miami..

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Concussions end Jordan Cameron’s season, possibly career

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 5, 2016, 12:11 PM EDT

Dolphins tight end Jordan Cameron will not play again this season and may never play again after his latest concussion.

Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports that the Dolphins are ending Cameron’s season and putting him on injured reserve, and that Cameron has concerns about his long term health and will consider retiring.

The 28-year-old Cameron, who is in the final year of his contract with the Dolphins, has had four concussions in the last four seasons. He has visited with concussion specialists since suffering his latest concussion in September but has not been cleared to play.

Cameron was a 2011 fourth-round pick of the Browns and played well in Cleveland, making the Pro Bowl in 2013. He signed a two-year, $15 million contract with the Dolphins last year.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ossibly-career/


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Jordan Cameron ... Injury waiting to happen


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Sad to see players go down with injury.

Now for the tasteless comment: wasn't at all sad to see him walk. Dude can't stay on the field.


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I'm surprised he lasted this long. My hope for him now is that the repetitive concussions don't negatively impact his furture too dramatically. My guess, sadly, is he'll be badly impacted by the time he's in his 50's or 60's. Your brain can only handle being battered about so many times. I'm not sure how many concussions he's officially had. What ever number that is it's not counting the likely mild, undetected, ones he probably played through.


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sucks for him ... we saw signs of this when he was here (even when he was successful). he's most likely done


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When Mark Kelso was faced with the same situation, his career on the line due to frequent concussions, he opted to use the Pro Cap...an outer pad giving the players an added layer of protection. Here is part of an article explaining it.


Here's where I often think about former Buffalo Bills safety Mark Kelso. Many a night do I lie in my fine bed and think about things, and every so often I think about Kelso and the giant helmet he wore for those early '90s Bills teams. He looked out of proportion and silly with that giant egg on his head. Announcers called him a conehead. In hindsight, he should be called a pioneer.

In a column that ran almost two years ago, ESPN's Gregg Easterbrook wrote about Kelso and former San Francisco tackle Steve Wallace, focusing on their use of an innovative helmet to help them avoid concussions.

Mark Kelso, a safety for the Bills from 1986 to 1993, wore an outer-padded helmet as a starter in four Super Bowls and finished with 30 career NFL interceptions. Many highly drafted, highly paid safeties wish they could say they had a career as good as Kelso did. Steve Wallace, an offensive tackle for the 49ers from 1986 to 1997, wore an outer-padded helmet and made the Pro Bowl. Many highly drafted, highly paid tackles wish they could say they played as well as Wallace did. You can wear an outer-padded helmet and be a very effective football player -- while doing less harm.

Kelso went to outer padding because he'd sustained two severe concussions and been advised to give up football. "The Bills' trainer knew an inventor who had been tinkering with padding," Kelso told me last week. "With padding, I played an additional five seasons, almost 100 more games, and sustained only one concussion, which wasn't a helmet-to-helmet hit -- someone kneed my head. Absolutely the padding made it safer for me and safer for the players I was hitting. You can't use an outer-padded helmet as a weapon. Pound a padded helmet against your own knee; it doesn't hurt. Do that with a standard polycarbonate shell helmet, and you'll howl in pain. If both players were wearing this in a helmet-to-helmet hit, it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad."

This is pretty amazing stuff that becomes only more apt by the day in the wake of near-weekly reminders of this crisis in the news. I have a sneaking suspicion that Kelso's and Wallace's experience with concussions and improved helmets is being studied by both sides of the ongoing litigation.
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The NFL allowed this product to be used, successfully protecting players at risk of further concussions.

Someone should sue the hell out of the NFL for outlawing this device (the ProCap)and making up some bogus excuse for outlawing it. All it did was "WORK".

The first player I know of to experiment with adding padding to the outside of his helmet was Willie Lanier, back in 1967. Lanier almost died from a concussion as a rookie and the Chiefs trainer came up with the idea of adding a 8" wide strip of padding down the center of his helmet...Lanier wore that helmet the rest of his 11 year hall of fame career.

All I know is added padding to the outside of existing helmets has worked in the past and not one player has been injured due to the device being worn.

Jordan Cameron was one of the good guys and I sorry to hear that his career might be over due to concussions.

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IIRC, He had 2 or 3 concussions in his final year here.

I hope that he doesn't have serious issues later in life. Concussions are really scary business.


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Playing football can lead to concussions.

And once you get one, it's ridiculously easy to get more.

No matter how much padding or helmet improvements you Mae won't eliminate them..

Hell getting rid of helmets all together might do more in the idea of stopping people from using their heads to tackle..


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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
Playing football can lead to concussions.

And once you get one, it's ridiculously easy to get more.

No matter how much padding or helmet improvements you Mae won't eliminate them..

Hell getting rid of helmets all together might do more in the idea of stopping people from using their heads to tackle..


That...you just proved to me that you haven't got a clue when it comes to understanding what has transpired over the last 10 years, when it comes to the NFL's helmet safety program.

I strongly suggest you do some research before spouting off about what works and what does not work.





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that sucks, sorry to hear that. wish him well


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You cannot eliminate the risk of cuncussions from contact sports.


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Hate seeing that happen to any player. At the time I was sad to see him go but in the end, we may have gotten the better end of the deal.

Wish him well.


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I remember hearing or reading somewhere the NFL and the players didn't like the "look" of those helmets. If that is true, I question the who "we care about safety" rhetoric.

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Sorry to hear it; guess he showed us. Just another guy to beat.


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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
You cannot eliminate the risk of cuncussions from contact sports.


guy...but you can "reduce" the risk of concussions if you improve the padding of the helmet.

That fact has been proven and there is no denying the evidence. Players like Jordan Cameron should be allowed to protect themselves with the best possible safety gear developed and proven to have a positive effect.

The Pro Cap did that...also, Willie Lanier was the first to prove that adding more padding to the "outside" of existing helmets helped him to eliminate the possibility that concussion would end his career as a rookie, in 1967.

Lanier's KC trainer came up with the idea of adding more padding to the outside of his helmet...AND IT WORKED...for 10 more years, it worked for Lanier. Lanier damned near died from his concussion as a NFL rookie.

Padding added to the outside of existing helmets will greatly reduce the shock to a football players brain...it was proven decades ago.

This is not rocket science folks...it's common sense!





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I remember hearing or reading somewhere the NFL and the players didn't like the "look" of those helmets. If that is true, I question the who "we care about safety" rhetoric.


No, they don't have a cool look.

I thought I heard about this a while back and just googled it, James Harrison wears a different kind of helmet that offers him more protection:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdo...43262--nfl.html

It sucks that Cameron probably shouldn't play anymore, but imagine retiring at age 28. (!)

My urologist and I talked football a while back. He told me his son is in high school and he won't allow him to play football because of the possibility of getting a concussion. I don't blame him.

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This is sad in and of itself, but I shudder to think how his later years might go. Joe Namath has had success reversing cognitive issues with treatments involving a hyperbaric chamber. Beyond the obvious need to design safer helmets, or even going back to the cap, I'd like to see more talk about this and other treatment options. Here's an article for anyone who's interested:

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I absolutely remember Willie Lanier's extra outside padded helmet. I also remember an article or letter to the editor in Football Digest (does this even exist anymore)and either he quit using it or "experts" thought if all players had rubber on their helmets and they collided it could cause serious neck injuries because the pad would "catch" & twist their neck.

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If he's smart he'll retire but it depends on how much guaranteed money he got in his contract. Sitting around on I.R. and raking in a million or two ain't bad.


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While Namath does all he can, not to turn into a mental vegetable, with experimental treatments, had he used a helmet to better protect his brain, he might not be forced to resorting to experimental treatments at age 73.

Some are just figuring out that there is a lot of life to live, beyond 70 years of age...but living those last 10-15 years as a vegetable, is that where the focus should be?

...or should today's players be focused on what keeps their brains the most protected from injury, now, today.

So far, adding padding to the outside of helmets protects a players brain better then anything else that helmet manufacturers have produced.

My suggestion would be, don't wait until the damage is done...do something to protect a player's brain (pee-wee, jr-high, high school, college, pros) "BEFORE" their brain has already been damaged beyond repair.

...just a suggestion to the parents of football players (pee-wee, jr-high, high school, college) and to those who play pro-football.




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