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We've all got work to do. A resounding call across this country rallies against the establishment. I'm shocked, and still processing how Trump won. He invigorated a base of voters who tend to never show up, and they put him over the top.

Hillary failed, and went down in a heap of flames that desinigrated to ash. Emails, adverse comments, hubris and a lack of freshness did her in. Hindsight easily says "Bernie would've won!", but the tax policies existed as a huge stumbling block.

What I ask is this: what do we all share as common values? How can we work together, and use this election as a point to start uniting.

These remain my concerns for our nation.

Concerns:
-How do we jumpstart the middle class? How can we provide better paying job opportunities, and encourage continuing education?

-How can we modify, or fix the affordable healthcare act? Healthcare for all could benefit our nation, and there must be a workable path for this.

-What will we do about protecting minorities? The other side must understand these eight years of social progress truly mean the world to millennials. We must respect belief systems, but not base public policy off of religious systems. Consult religious leaders if need be, but scientific factual information must remain the priority. Only considering one religion for the law of the land goes against separation of church and state.

-We need reform in the criminal justice system. What will we do to rebuild trust between African Americans, and police officers? Black Lives Must Matter, and we need law enforcement reform. Pence even agreed on this in the debate.

-What's the path to respect the freedom, and employment of our LGBT brothers and sisters? How will we enact policies that guarantee them protections from not getting fired for sexual orientation?

I could list many many more, but I won't. These are the ines that strike me on what we need to unify on. I'm willing to give, and the other side must be willing to give.

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Good luck on looking to me for a fight. You won't get one out of me. I may criticize policies, but President Elect Trump will be my President.

No tears in here for any of you.

Trump will be President for the next 4 years at minimum. True progressives need to sweep the dem establishment out of office and find more Sanders/Warren type aggressive progressives to lead a new democratic party and keep the opposition checks and balances on a populist right wing Presidency. Doing that will help if Trump is truly seeking to lead everyone and willing to negotiate deals.

Homeboy gets a clean slate.

He has the majority in the house.

He has the majority in the senate.

He gets to pick his Supreme Court judge.

That means straight up no excuses. The jobs report is good. The GDP report is good. Both have grown a lot.

So with a majority everything, make it happen.

He are my concerns. And I'm sorry but it's big concerns.

1. Is he really gonna make Muslims register?
2. Is he gonna let Russia do whatever the hell they want?
3. His economic plan is gonna add 10 trillion dollars to the deficit. So......are we all good with that?
4. Will he completely defund planned parenthood?

Either way,, congrats. I called a Clinton win. Gotta eat that crow. I hope you conservatives at least me cook the damn bird, first.

So he gets a clean slate. But with a growing GDP, a good jobs report for months now...the guy better perform.

Let's see what make America great again means. Is it for everybody, or just whites?

Anyway, all the he said she said personal drama during the election is done and over with. don't want to talk about that. Just his straight up policy moving forward.

So any recession that happens. That's all on him. Any sizable growth to the deficit. That's all of him.

You're going to have to get over this white people thing Swish. Didn't you hear, orange is the new white.

sorry bro but as someone with middle eastern heritage i have every right to be nervous.

It was a joke bro.

my bad bro i'm.....still trying to process this.

Of course not ... he's not the racist, homophobe U want to make him out to be .. he'll now get the chance to PROVE IT ...

What he will do is what ANY INTELLIGENT person would do ... he will put plants in the mosques .. if an imam comes from one of the terrorist training grounds .. he'll keep an eye on them ...

Thats not RACIST ... its SMART!!!

I grew up in the catholic church ... if Christian's from europe were KILLING US ... I'd expect the same damm thing ...

And I wouldn't be running around screaming .. HE'S RACIST ... he can't do that ...



I still don't understand this one ... exactly WTF did oBUMa and Hillary ever do to stop this guy ... he will not let them walk all over US ... not him .... US ... witch is exactly what your boy and girl did ...

Putin crapped on him ... When he first entered Libya ... Putin met with oBUMa on one day and said .. were good, love what we're gonna do in Libya with U ..

Next day his ambassador here went to the white house and told oBUMa ... were going into Libya ... BACK OFF .... talk about a CRAP ALL OVER US MOMENT!!!

And that same thing has played out at least 2 or 3 more times since then!!!

What your saying and what happend are not based in REALITY ...



NO ... its going to rise significantly in the first two years while he cleans oBUMa's crap up .. we'll see where were at in 4 years ..

If its up even 3 or 4 trillion from where it is the day he took over ....

I'll be right there with u ... RIGHT THERE WITH U ...



HE SHOULD ... he shouldn't get rid of abortion clinics .. if i were him .. I would change the name of the buildings and get rid of all the THIEVES that BROKE FEDERAL LAW ...

Let them continue to do what they do (something i am dead set against ... but its the law!!) but how do u not get rid of the management and folks involved in what came out on those videos ..

THEY BROKE THE LAW ...

Get rid of the CRIMINALS and change the TOXIC NAME ...

Whats wrong with that? ...



U ran around here for the last two weeks like a pompous ass saying ITS OVER ... QUIT WHINING .... ITS OVER ... ITS OVER ... QUIT WHINING ....

He hasn't even been president elect for 12 hours and your all ready WHINING!!!

Give the guy a chance ..



He needs a couple years for his policies to take affect ... he has alot to turn around ...

BE FAIR and u won't hear boo from me ... i put the odds of u being fair at about 50 to 1 against ...

I won't be like u and your lib buddies and be BLAMING oBUMa 3 years later much less 8 YEARS LATER like u guys did to Bush!!!

I'm not whining. I ask legitimate questions.

He's not gonna do it? Well he said he was Gonna put Muslims on a list

So you voted for a guy that isn't gonna do what he says he is?

I hope you understand that you just admitted to voting for a liar. Ya know, everything you was complaining about Hillary.

Good job.

Obama walked into a recession with job loss by the month.

Trump is walking into a recovery with positive job growth and a GDP.

Those are facts that you can't refute. If you try to refute, that means you're lying.

So, he's walking into a great situation. Let's see what he got.

For the progressives who didn't vote. I hope Trump destroys every liberal-progressive thing Obama accomplished and then some. The DNC does deserve to be burned to the ground. However, the Bernie bros don't deserve to not go unscathed either. You want super extremist Left policies? Sorry, the country isn't ready for that. They claimed Hillary was too far right wing and they're about to see the full wrath of a true right wing.



I'm not a fan of extremism right or left. What bothers me is that the extreme left is going to be louder and more obnoxious. I believe in compromise, but the left extremist don't. I'm just done with the dumbass millennials that would rather sit in coffee shops when off year elections roll around that actually impact the country more than a presidential election does.

Lord merciful God in Heaven,
I have prayed this long year for Your blessings
on our Nation in trouble, our Society in decline.
We have now been delivered a great change.

I pray Your blessings on our Nations leadership,
a blessing of wisdom upon them all.

I pray Your blessings upon all our people as we adjust to this change.
I pray for unity and peace upon our land.
I pray for a new direction that will bring our Nation closer to You,
and I ask that our people will draw together closer than ever before.

Glory be to You oh Lord, In Jesus name I pray.
Amen.

I suspect liberals will now support limited government.

it's wait and see with me. Was not in favor of either, but Trump is the lesser of evils for me. could not hope for Clinton.

From an economic standpoint, you have to hope he can help. We'll see

It sure sounds like WHINING TO ME ...

ObumA didn't have oBUMa care to CLEAN UP ...

ObumA didn't have 20 TRILLION IN DEBT ... he had 1/2 that ...

It took u exactly about 5 hours to turn in to a WHINER ... and to start with your BS ...

What were the NET JOB GAINS LAST MONTH?????? ... i know ... DO U ..

U may ... but its not your style to give the ENTIRE STORY!!!

U think Trump has issues ... u need to use your MIRROR for more than making sure your pretty before u go out to point fingers at everyone and everything else ...

Lol, "President Trump"..... WOW!!

I can't stress enough that I think this election was WAY more about keeping Hillary out of office than it was voting Trump in.

It was more about a change of direction than anything about Hillary.

Can any ardent Trump supporter answer/comment on what I posted as concerns? I know piling on Swish sounds like fun and games for a few of you, but you don't understand what you're doing...

These issues will exist as major concerns from those you wish to win over.

I think Hillary was a part of it ... also the loss of jobs, the rising cost of oBUMa care and a few other things having to do with our checkbooks .....

I also think it was the biggest middle finger ever to:

- the political establishment

- the media

- big business

- oBUMa's legacy ... he said if u want to continue my policies and protect my legacy u need to vote for the NASTY ONE ..

The electoral college said NOT!!!

I know exactly what i'm doing ... i ANSWERED every one of his questions .. and all he did was call me out for voting for a liar ... DIDN'T ADRESS ONE THING ...

I'm not piling on ... just calling out his BS ... just like i did for the last 3 weeks ...

He hasn't even been president elect for 8 hours and he's all ready playing more of his BS games ...

And if anyone is piling on ... he ran around here for the last two weeks like a pompous ass saying ... ITS OVER ... lets move on ... QUIT WHINING .. ITS OVER ...

He has EARNED every bit of piling on he gets ... Except from Eve ... WOW is all I'll say about her ... the only thing her and I have in common is we voted for the Trumpster .. not a fan at all of her "rhetoric" .. EMBERASSED is my one word reaction to alot of what she says ...

I'll be an idiot and try with u ... i'll go answer them ... at the end of the day ... TRUMP's th one that needs to "win you over" .. if he improves OUR lives .. he will do that ... if not, then WE'LL ALL BE PEED AT HIM ...

Wish to win u over? .. i don't even know what that means ..

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING .... do u?

They can pile on all they want. Lord knows I did it pre election.

But I'm just hanging back now. This country doesn't belong to us minorities anymore, regardless if we are citizens.

You white guys took your country back. Everything that happens, good or bad, is on y'all. I'm just here chillin'

I guess I can't dress how I normally dress.

Stop and frisk is gonna suck. Back to getting searched for drugs like a trap lord.

This is just one man's opinion, but I believe that the country should not belong to any one group. Instead, I think all law-abiding citizens belong in our country.

I agree with you.

Unfortunately, the majority doesn't.

Welp.... let's see what he gots. He has all Republican everything. A growing economy, and positive job growth.

Let's see if he makes America great again, or if he will turn us into
The national version of Kansas.

I'm just here bro. I have no say so in this country anymore. I'm chillin

Yup .... your not WHINING at all ... now we can add MAKING CRAP UP to your long resume ...

Your a smart guy Swish ... u know stop and frisk is a LOCAL decision ... not even a state or federal decision as far as i know .. it maybe something a state can mandate ... the Feds .. NO WAY!!!

I wish we knew how many blacks in Chicago would LOVE TO HAVE STOP AND FRISK ... especially the DEAD ONES!!!!

Only the DRUG DEALING, GUN TOTING folks are against stop and frisk ... if u don't fall into one of those categories you should be happy that it will SAVE BLACK LIVES!!!

Seems like u switched from the Saul Alinsky playbook to the Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson play book ... u keep GREAT COMPANY ...

We couldn't even get through 9 hours of him being president elect before u started with your RACIST BS ....

Give the guy a CHANCE ... u ASSume the worst ...

You really need to stop talking.

Swish -

*L* .. why .... TRUTH HURT!!

Let me guess ... getting rid of Sancuatary Cities is RACIST!!!

U quit making CRAP UP ... i'll shut up ... I PROMISE!!!!

Step by step by step we took it back.
Luckily for you, you still have our Constitution backing you and we will protect your rights. We will put an end to the Liberal/Progressive movement to end our Constitutional Rights.
We will put in Judges who respect what America is all about, who protect that Constitution for all of us.

Yes, you will be asked to change some things. You will be expected to finally pull your pants up.
You will be forced into dialog with the rest of us on your relationship with law enforcement and you will be held accountable for crimes you commit, while they will be held accountable for crimes they commit.

If Black on Black crime continues as it is, we will see to it the law abiding among you are protected while your criminal element is taken off the street. We will care more about the well being of the victims of violence than the rights of the violent.

If you are a Muslim American, you have the same rights as I do and millions of us will fight for your rights.
If you are a criminal threat to the rest of us, you will be dealt with accordingly.

If you are an immigrant to America and are here to be productive, law abiding, and an asset to America, you will always be welcomed.

You're scary.

Looks ain't everything.

He's the scary one .... WOW!

He said we took it back. Do you condone that type of thinking?

I feel real welcomed in this country.

You have a long way to go under this new system.
You can no longer tell me and others how to think or what we can say.
Those days of PC BS are behind us now.
Perhaps you would be happier if we also gave you a trophy.

Diam and 40yearswaiting, when is your next KKK meeting? Too bad the majority of people in this country only see red or blue, black or white and can't see people as people. This election set this country back 40 years in regards to bigotry and racisms. Once Trump nominates his supreme court and the new fascists government is in place good luck, it worked out so well for minorities (Jews) in Germany I'm sure it will work out well for Americans too.

Look, there are always going to be hateful, narrow-minded people in this world. They come in all colors.

Most of us are open-minded people who will not discriminate against any certain group. You're welcomed in this country, Swish.

I never thought I would say this, but you might be the only person I would not like to meet.

I'm actually appalled if you are considering me to be part of this "we."

I hope so bro. I'm trying to stay optimistic.

The crazy thing is that for all the pumped-up chests on one side and all the gnashing of teeth on the other, things probably aren't going to change all that much.

The politicians will continue to spew hot air and us working stiffs will continue to foot the bill.

Do any of our extreme conservative brethren believe in empathy? You'll need tons of it these next four years.