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*LOL* ... so now your going with the ... U QUOTED THE WRONG POST defense .. I didn't say ya'all in the thread u quoted ARCH ... so U can't bring up my words from the post Diam quoted ...

WOW ...

U sure are a class act ... i'm so bummed I can't buy U that beer ... ...

I liked this one so much .. I wanted to make sure U didn't miss it ...

Handed to me?

Don't fool yourself, guy.

Never mind, you make a fool out of yourself all the time.

All well, not my problem. Have a good night.

I make a fool out of myself ... i used your words to prove u wrong ...

Yup ... ahhh ... i see Saul ...

More deflection ... calling him STUPID DIDN'T WORK ...let me try calling him a FOOL instead ...

Nice ... u gonna go read more of Saul to see what to do next ...

Prolly a good move ... *L* ..

Thanks Vambo - you just made the whole protest thing very clear! Now this I can relate to!

I'm just curious to know if you'll get a time out for name calling yourself.

http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2016/06/28/canada-lift-visa-requirements-mexico

Guess all the Mexicans will leave the US to live in Canada with a free pass. Enjoy.

'Crooked Hillary' no more: Trump calls Clinton a 'very strong and very smart' woman

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-now-says-crooked-hillary-024015614.html

Michael Jackson would be proud at this expert level moon walk.

Lots of criminals are strong and smart. I don't see your point.

Or maybe Trump was just showing some class.

Guess it takes one to know one.

Oregon's Democratic Secretary of State went down to defeat, marking the
first GOP victory in a statewide election in 14 years. More significantly, the loser of this race was known to many as the infamous bully who led the charge to fine a Christian-owned bakery $144,000 for declining to provide services to a same-sex wedding:

Avakian is the state bureaucrat who went after the business of the Christian bakers, Sweetcakes by Melissa in 2013. The owners, Melissa and Aaron Klein, refused to create a wedding cake for a lesbian couple. Though the bakery served gay customers, the couple believed that by participating in the wedding ceremony, they were condoning the marriage, which conflicted with their Christian beliefs. Avakian's Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI) went after the Kleins, resulting in them being forced to close their business. Aaron Klein tells Independent Journal Review that the state garnished their bank accounts and assets to satisfy a $135,000 fine. In all, he says, the state took $144,000 from them. Oregon political analyst Rob Kremer told Independent Journal Review that Avakian campaigned on the idea that he would use the Secretary of State's office to further his progressive political agenda and — surprisingly — that turned off a lot of Oregon's liberal voters.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2...-about-n2245579

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/11/15/t...le-resigns.html

Tech CEO who vowed to murder Donald Trump with a sniper rifle resigns
By Mike Wehner Published November 15, 2016

If there's ever been a giant list of things you definitely shouldn't do in a civilized society, threatening to murder the democratically elected leader with a sniper rifle is probably right up there at the top. Apparently nobody told Matt Harrigan, CEO -- well, former CEO, anyway -- of network security firm PacketSled.

In an ill-advised fit of blind rage, Harrigan took to Facebook to voice his stance on the future Trump presidency, but rather than providing reasoned, sane arguments to support his feelings, Harrigan simply vowed to murder Trump instead.

Harrigan's violent rhetoric was quickly preserved with screenshots and rapidly gained attention on Reddit, where it was brought to the attention of PacketSled. Harrigan, as you might expect, performed one of the quickest reversals in the history of mankind, claiming that it was all a joke and a misunderstanding:

"My recent Facebook comment was intended to be a joke, in the context of a larger conversation, and only privately shared as such. Anyone who knows me, knows that I do not engage in this form of rhetoric with any level of seriousness and the comment most certainly does not represent my real personal views in any regard. I apologize if anything that I said was either taken seriously, was offensive, or caused any legitimate concern."

Best Regards, Matt Harrigan

But threatening to kill the president isn't exactly easy to undo, and his company wasted no time in distancing itself from him. On Monday, PacketSled noted that it is fully cooperating with the Secret Service, should a more in-depth investigation take root:

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"PacketSled takes recent comments made by our CEO, seriously. Once we were made aware of these comments, we immediately reported this information to the secret service and will cooperate fully with any inquiries. These comments do not reflect the views or opinions of PacketSled, its employees, investors or partners. Our CEO has been placed on administrative leave."

PacketSled issued another statement Tuesday, this time announcing the resignation and departure of Harrigan:

"The PacketSled Board of Directors accepted the resignation of President and CEO Matthew Harrigan, effective immediately. Fred Wilmot, the company's Chief Technology Officer, will serve as interim CEO while the Board of Directors conducts a search for a permanent replacement. We want to be very clear, PacketSled does not condone the comments made by Mr. Harrigan, which do not reflect the views or opinions of the company, its employees, investors or partners."

Wow, depending on the timing of this, someone like that could be in prison or at least investigated by the secret service.

Or a microscope up your financial rectum by Lois Lerner's replacement.

I've said this too many times to count. Anyone threatening Trump should be put in prison. I said it when he was evacuated at a rally. I don't want trash like that acceptable in my country.

This is messed up in the extreme.

No excuses... you put out a hit on a POTUS, you get jail time/execution, after due process.

No 'walk-backs."
No "I said it as a joke"

No excuses.
Prosecution- to the fullest extent allowable by law.

If The State can successfully press its case, this dude should go down for whatever max the law allows.

This is unacceptable in a nation of law.
It should be deemed unacceptable to anyone who lives in a nation of law.

If it's true that he tried to initiate such a thing, he'll be found guilty in a court of law. Whatever sentence gets handed down to him will be more than alright with me.

What a repugnant human being.
Unworthy of the title: "American Citizen."

We're expected to be better than this.

J/C ......

I am seeing a lot of people and protesters, again, calling for an end to the electoral college, and for using the popular vote for the Presidency. There is an axiom that says that democracy is the tyranny of the majority .... meaning that in a "true" national democratic vote, much of the country would be ignored at the expense of the largest population centers. The Founders created the electoral college in order to eliminate the possibility of the tyranny of large states, and thus created a representative republic, as opposed to a democracy.

In this last election, Hillary Clinton won the national vote by the slimmest of margins. However, she won a couple of states, namely NY and California, by over 5 million votes. In a pure popular vote, she would have won. However, think about if we had to go back and recount every single vote in this country. Imagine if each and every "questionable" ballot had to be taken out, examined, and litigated. The election would never be settles by the time the new President was to take office. It would paralyze this country.

Heck, I'm still not sure if Michigan has certified their final vote totals, and electors. Let's say that Clinton won by 1 million votes. That's 20,000 per state, on average. Imagine having to go through each and every provisional ballot .... challenging the legitimacy of them, one by one, by both sides,

I remember Bush V. Gore, with people trying to decide what voters "really meant", and the idiocy that resulted. Now imagine that on a national level. Every state would be recounted and recounted. Every ballot would be questioned and challenged. Every voter would be called to make sure they actually submitted the ballot cast in their names. The lawyers would get rich ..... but I don't believe that the interests of people across the country would be served.

Also, in today's world, where people vote weeks, or months, before the election, who knows what could be revealed about a candidate. Imagine that Candidate A won the early vote ..... and then it was revealed that this candidate committed treason, and was heading towards either a death sentence, or a career in prison, as opposed to a political career. The electoral college protects against these things as well. The electors cast the final ballot, and I hope that they would vote in the country's best interests, in such a case, as opposed to simply voting for their candidate. In such a case, the electors could vote for the VP to be President, or a different candidate. Maybe the flip sides instead. The electors are the voters' representatives, and are typically strong partisans, so they aren't going to flip for no reason.

There are a lot of pluses to the electoral college. The only downside is that big states like NY and California don't get "credit" for every single last vote. However, they do get a proportional amount of electors, based on the number of Senators and Congressmen that come from their state. I think this is the best way, and was remarkable in its foresight.

Welcome to the new normal ... Interesting part of this one .. not sure if the guy who killed one and wounded the other ... not sure if he had a conceal and carry permit ..

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/16/off...-killing-1.html

Officials say Pennsylvania pizza shop customer shoots 2 robbers, killing 1
Published November 16, 2016 FoxNews.com

Authorities in Pennsylvania said a pizza shop customer shot and killed one robber and injured another after they tried hold up the restaurant Tuesday night

Authorities in Pennsylvania said a pizza shop customer shot and killed one robber and injured another after they tried hold up the restaurant Tuesday night.

The incident took place at Porfirio's Pizza and Pasta in Levittown, about 25 miles northeast of Philadelphia.

More on this...

Police said the customer shot both men after they allegedly pistol-whipped him.

“The two male robbers apparently told the employees and the customer to get on the ground. They began pistol-whipping the customer. At that point, the customer produced a handgun and shot both of the robbers,” Middletown police Chief Joseph Bartorilla said.

One of the robbery suspects was pronounced dead at the scene after being shot in the chest. The second was in serious condition after suffering injuries in the neck and shoulder. The robber was being transferred to a hospital in Philadelphia, according to Levittown Now.

Police said the customer and two pizza shop employees were the only people in the restaurant when the two armed suspects walked in.

Police said the customer's gun was properly registered, but they're unsure if he had a concealed carry permit.

Levittown Now reported that the suspects were local residents, but further details weren’t released.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Don't ASSume she would have won if it was the popular vote ...

Trump spent his last 4 - 6 weeks focusing on about 6 states and he went to another 3 of 4 others 1 - 3 times ...

Thats also where he spent all his tv ad money ..

If it was the popular vote .. you would have seen him in the major cities he got his ass whooped in ... like in PA, he spend ZERO TIME or money in Phili ..

U can ASSume all u want .. but where he campaigned and spent money would have been MUCH DIFFERENT ...

I'm not sure how I feel about this ...

In NY .. my vote did not matter one little bit ... not even a smidge ... if it was a popular vote ... my vote would actually mean more ... where as for instance your vote in Ohio actually meant way more ...

Then in small states .. your vote matters % wise more in your state ... but when you only have 4 - 10 electoral college votes so you "weight" your vote that way it means less on the national level ....

In the larger states like NY and Cali ... your vote means less in the state because there's more people voting but it more than likely means more when u ad the "weight" because those states have so many electoral college votes ...

Would actually love to see one of the pundits weight out how much a vote from Cali meant compared to a vote from New Hampshire based off this years numbers ..

THATS HOW U USE STATS ... *LOL* ..

In all honesty, anyone threatening a sitting president, past president or a current president elect should be put in prison.

Why limit it to Presidents? If you threaten ANYBODY like that, you deserve to be punished.

Exactly.. we have what Obama said about Hillary when running against her, we have what Hillary said about Bernie when running against him, we have what Trump said about Hillary and Obama, we have what Cruz said about Trump... then it becomes all Kumbaya after the decisions are made... this is nothing new.

Sorry, but that's pretty funny right there!

When did being first lady become a job?

Good God.

There's already talk about Dems wanting to get behind Corey Booker. He passes the moral character test in that he saved someone from a burning building, but he's bought off too. If he wasn't bought off by Walstreet, he'd pass the character test with flying colors.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...-has-saved.html

Speaking of jobs and immigrants working illegally in the Unites States......

Melania Trump Worked in the United States Before She Had a Work Visa: Report

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has put illegal immigration issues at the forefront of his campaign. But a new report claims that his wife, Melania Trump, worked in the United States before she had obtained a work visa and allegedly illegally earned over $20,000.

According to the Associated Press, Melania was paid $20,056 over seven weeks for 10 modeling jobs in the United States in 1996 while she was on a B1/B2 visitor visa. The news outlet cites detailed accounting ledgers, contracts and related documents from 20 years ago in their reporting.

The B1/B2 visitor visa allowed Melania to stay in the U.S. to look for work, but not to perform paid work in the country.

Melania, through immigration attorney Michael J. Wildes, released a statement on Oct. 5 confirming she came to the United States from Slovenia on August 27, 1996 and pursued a B-1/B-2 visitor visa. However, Wildes also said that Trump didn’t obtain her work visa until nearly two months later.

“Shortly, therefore, on October 18, 1996, the U.S. Embassy in Slovenia issued Mr. Trump her first H1-B visa, a category which authorizes employment as a model in the United States. Mrs. Trump was thereafter consistently issued H1-B visas, five in total, between October 1996 and 2001, at which point she became a lawful permanent resident, or ‘green card’ holder,” Wildes wrote.

Documents provided to the AP, however, indicate that Melania was paid for work between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15 — therefore making the income earned outside of the bounds of her visa.

A Trump campaign spokesperson did not respond to PEOPLE’s request for comment.

Wildes did issue a statement to the AP after reviewing their source material — which they said included ledgers, accounting documents and a management agreement signed by Melania from Metropolitan International Management.

He told the AP that “these documents, which have not been verified, do not reflect our records including corresponding passport stamps.” The AP said he did not elaborate or answer additional questions asking for clarification.

This isn’t the first time Melania’s immigration status has been questioned during the bitter presidential race.

In August, she responded to reports questioning the legality of her immigration.

“Let me set the record straight: I have at all times been in full compliance with the immigration laws of this country. Period,” she said in a statement on Twitter. “Any allegation to the contrary is simply untrue. In July 2006, I proudly became a U.S. citizen. Over the past 20 years, I have been fortunate to live, work and raise a family in this great nation and I share my husband’s love for our country.”
The potential first lady has refused to make her immigration papers public, despite a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the Democratic Coalition Against Trump.

On Thursday, she talked about her decision to come to the United States while giving a speech for her husband.

“As a young entrepreneur, I wanted to follow my dream to a place where freedom and opportunity were in abundance. So of course, I came here,” Melania said. “Living and working in America was a true blessing — but I wanted something more. I wanted to be an American.”

http://people.com/politics/melania-trump-illegal-work-visa-report/

Yes, that was the system as millions and millions of illegals did the same thing.

Thank goodness Trump will fix this system.

So the source material in question has not been verified, the guy denies they are valid, she denies it, but hey lets run with it and put up a headline saying she's guilty? You gotta love the media.

Lib's should love it. She came here, supposedly started working, and worked for 2 months until she got her visa.

We've been told all along that getting visa's etc is such a time consuming act, and that's why illegals don't get them - because "they can't".

Yeah but she took my job.

Well it certainly fell under the category of ironic. lol

You misspelled Moronic.

Obviously it doesn't say what you think it says. lol

Hillary was first lady... but Monica did all the work.

There should be an expediting process for women who look like Melania.