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That's not exactly how Federal contracts work. Our company does a lot of contract work for Federal Gov't, specifically, the USCG, Federal Highways, US Air Force and National Park Service.

The projects are typically sealed bids. Meaning the low bidder is awarded the project and assuming they can provide a bond. There are negotiated contracts as well, where past performance is and can be taken into consideration, but again, it often goes to the low bidder so long as they meet requirements.

There are a design/build projects as well, but the bid is still open for qualified contractors and engineering firms to bid.

I guess what I am getting at is, Trump isn't going to pick up the phone, call his pal and say go build this wall. Granted, if it's a $10B project, the competition on who will bid the project just on sheer size alone limits bid competition. There aren't a plethora of companies that can bond or self bond a $10B project. The project will just get subcontracted out anyway after the general contractor is awarded the project.

This all assumes a wall gets built, obviously.

Could they just have multiple different contractors....?

Thanks for the info Mr. Milk ...

I suspect alot of things that are done in gov't today will change ...

But if thats the case .. he can have who he knows appt. as construcion supervisor ...

Trump will figure a way to get it done ...

If the job were to bid as a single solicitation there would be only 1 general contractor. On a project of that magnitude you would have many different contractors working on the project, however, that would be directly hired by the GC.

I'm not saying it won't get built but, Federal contracts just don't work like that. Like DC said, he won't be running the project or hiring a supervisor. I suppose the member of his cabinet that he point to say Dept. of Transportation (assuming that is who the contract would be through) could be the "supervisor", but I can assure you, someone that high will never set foot on the construction site other than maybe a photo-op, nor do they typically even understand construction construction at that level. It's more about policy.

All the Government agencies already have contracting officers, division engineers, project engineers in place to manage these projects and oversee the contractor's work. This would be just another contract on their plate to manage.

Wanna make a small wager? ...

Things are going to change .. watch and see ..

I have no doubt things will change Diam. I'm not sure if it will be good or bad at this early date, but they will change.

The point is, the process, materials and wages will not permit this wall to be built for less than 5 billion dollars. It will at least be 10 billion and depending on the specifications, it could go much higher.

I've been in construction most of my life. DC has decades of experience with government contractors and should easily be able to tell you that a project this huge simply can't be done for five billion or less.

There are actually some things that Trump won't have control over or be able to dictate in Washington. America isn't owned by Trump.

I'm not sure I understand. What do you think I'm saying won't happen or I should be wagering against? I was more or less giving a quick synopsis on Federal contracts.

That was a really good article. Thank you.

Fire up the incinerators, hook up the gas to the showers.

To me it sounded like u were saying ... and this is why i hate this form of communicating .. so easy to be mis-understood ...

From what u said .. i heard ... there's all ready a system in place and it would end up just another project on someone's plate to manage ... and that when he appoints someone to supervise it that they will never step foot on the site ...

I bet it doesn't JUST end up on someone's plate as another project to manage and I bet whoever he puts in charge of it will be on the site .. MULTIPLE TIMES ...

Let me pose this to you Diam. Trump has strongly stated that he is proposing an entire rebuild of our infrastructure. Do you honestly believe he has the power and connections to oversee all of those projects? Or are you saying one small part of that, the wall will be different?

You will be having multiple bridges being built, highways under construction, the wall being built and airports being rebuilt according to Trumps own words. Somehow I find it hard to believe that all of these projects can be done hands on at the same time. I think you may be overestimating the reach of Trump.

I do think history shows that it has been YOU who has underestimated the reach of Trump.

Dear Donald Trump,
Please come fix the roads near my house that they tore up two years ago and never bothered to finish fixing.
Kind Regards,
Eve

That's fair. I'm sure he would have a "point man" or liaison so to speak that would report to him and relay construction progress because this would be a groundbreaking project that would garner national attention and would be reported on by the White House correspondents and media outlets.

I guess the confusion arose from how directly involved Trump or the "point man" would specifically be in managing the day to day construction activities, which would be minimal. Hence my comment about engineers etc.. in-place.

"Just another project on their plate" was an over simplification on my part. The division engineer of the department handling this project will have their butt puckered until it's complete!

All is good.

I may be Pit .. maybe not .. like u say .. we'll see ...

The wall will be different .. will he be there supervising .. hell no .. will folks be reporting to him on it ... ABSOLUTELY ...

Not sure if u know this .. he sleeps abut 5 hours a night and pretty much works most of the other 19 .. at least now he will .. he understands the enormity of the task at hand ..

He won't be a construction mgr. .. he will put people in charge that know what there doing .. then they will be held accountable .. and they best not try and BS him in that area ...

One of the things he's done in his business is surround himself with the best, brightest and hardest working .... i expect he will do the same in government ....

I know it isn't his business ... and i know there's a huge bureaucracy ... like 40 said ...

DON'T UNDERESTIMATE HIM ... like his son said at the convention ...

"Impossible is just the starting point for him" ..

If you asked me questions, then I missed it. Which thread?

They will have to or it will take 20 years to build. The government is big on sharing the wealth on projects of this magnitude and to get more people involved and spread the love around, they would use quite a few different contractors to build their portion from point A to point B

Look, maybe I am exaggerating a little, but you cannot just briefly look at what Bannon has allowed to be posted on Brietbart, you cannot just briefly look at his outlandish comments and just call them that. Fact of the matter is, he's given voice to some of the biggest names amongst white nationalists. I know they brand themselves as civic nationals, but I'll be danged if that doesn't sound like something from the Hunger Games.

Now, I typed that yesterday and pondered on your guys's (You too, DC) thoughts. Maybe I was being too mean and was a little outlandish. So I slept on the thought, ready to take it back if I thought it was necessary. But within that time period, news has released that he wasn't chief of staff because of Kushner talking some sense into the Don while he was expunging Christie sycophants from the transition team. So, it seems like Bannon has Trump's ear a little bit more than Republicans on this forum fear. Secondly, Bannon said there were too many foreign-born American citizens working in the tech industry and that they may be incompatible with "civic society".

So yeah, I'm going to call this guy Goebbels in the making. Because that's what he is. He's an insane man who wants to destroy the state. He's stated that. I'm quite frankly very alarmed by him.

Steve Bannon could be Wall Street's worst enemy

In a presentation Steve Bannon gave during a conference at the Vatican in 2014, the Trump confidant ripped into big banks and their role in the 2008 financial crisis.

=The 2008 crisis, I think the financial crisis — which, by the way, I don't think we've come through — is really driven I believe by the greed, much of it driven by the greed of the investment banks. My old firm, Goldman Sachs — traditionally the best banks are leveraged 8:1. When we had the financial crisis in 2008, the investment banks were leveraged 35:1.

-Particularly the fact — think about it — not one criminal charge has ever been brought to any bank executive associated with 2008 crisis. And in fact, it gets worse. No bonuses and none of their equity was taken. So part of the prime drivers of the wealth that they took in the 15 years leading up to the crisis was not hit at all, and I think that's one of the fuels of this populist revolt that we're seeing as the tea party. So I think there are many, many measures, particularly about getting the banks on better footing, making them address all the liquid assets they have. I think you need a real cleanup of the banks balance sheets.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/16/steve-bannon-could-be-wall-street-worst-enemy.html

Then I stand corrected.

I hope I will be too. However, there has been no evidence from the contrary.

Steve Bannon represents everything I hate about the Right. I can't compare him to Goebbels, but he is the physical manifestation of white nationalist supremacy. I can learn to live with anybody in Trumps cabinet except him and any similar minded people like him.

Put this guy in a position of power with a mic and minorities will actually show up to vote in 2020.

Bannons position is Chief Strategy Officer, right?

That to me sounds more like a Project Manager than it does a policy manager, someone who has more to do with how Trump is going to get his policies implemented.

What Bannon's personal views are I don't think are necessarily relevant to what his job is going to be. Take other high level people in different jobs: Who here has ever cared about what Haslam's personal views on anything are? Do we care who Sashi or DePo voted for? In our own jobs I'm sure we've worked with people that were damn good at their job, but they aren't someone you'd invite over to dinner.

You can be a terrible human being but at the same time be amazing at your job. Bottom line, IF Trump is able to get the economy moving like he claims he can, and Bannon helps him do it, do Bannon's personal views really matter?

If his personal views suggest he's a nazi, then why hire Joel Pollack as the senior editor of Breitbart? Pollack is an orthodox jew who's married to a black woman, while also hiring Milo Yiannopoulos who everyone on the planet knows is gay. But he's a nazi. I'm pretty sure this is not something that would have happened in Germany in 1939.

Another Jew that likes Bannon.

Link


Horowitz: Anti-Bannon Hysteria More Evidence the Left Has Lost Touch with the American People

by DAVID HOROWITZ 14 Nov 2016

The losers of the left have worked themselves into such a bizarre hysteria over the fact that they lost the White House that they have lost all connection to reality and are now hyping their most ludicrously paranoid fantasies.

The function of this lunacy is to put off the inevitable moment when they are going to come back to Earth and reckon with the fact that they were horribly wrong and the American people have rejected them. For them, Stephen K. Bannon is the straw man of the hour.

I can’t think of anything stupider than the charge coming from all quarters of the left–including a headline in the pathetically wretched Huffington Post–that Bannon is an anti-Semite. The source? A one sentence claim from an angry ex-wife in divorce court no less, that Bannon didn’t want their kids to go to school with Jews. I find that particularly amusing since Bannon wanted to make a film to celebrate this Jew’s life.

Not to be outdone, CNN, which has been particularly vicious, did a nasty attack on Bannon using another of the thinnest reeds available: This was a headline at Breitbart.com calling Bill Kristol a “renegade Jew.” In fact, neither Breitbart nor Bannon is responsible for that statement. A Jew is. I wrote the article, which was neither requested nor commissioned by Breitbart. And I wrote the headline: “Bill Kristol, Republican Spoiler, Renegade Jew.”

I wrote the article when Kristol set out to lead the “Never Trump” movement, after Trump had secured the Republican nomination. I would write it again in a heartbeat. I would write it the same way and with the same headline. Bill Kristol and his friends betrayed the Republican Party, betrayed the American people, and betrayed the Jews when he set out to undermine Trump and elect the criminal Hillary Clinton. Obama and Hillary are supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood, the organization that launched the Arab drive to destroy Israel and push its Jews into the sea (that was their slogan).

If Obama and Hillary had their way, Egypt’s leader al-Sisi would be overthrown, the Brotherhood would be back in power, and Israel would be facing a threat from the biggest military power in the Middle East and almost certainly at war with Islamic terrorists who openly call for the extermination of the Jews.

I have known Steve Bannon for many years. This is a good man. He does not have an Anti-Semitic bone in his body. In his new position as Chief Strategist in the Trump White House, Bannon is the strongest assurance that people who love this country can have in America’s future, the strongest assurance that America is in the hands of people who will give this country a chance to restore itself and defend itself against its enemies at home and abroad.

Mr. Candy/Pitt ... don't know what to think about this guy ...

Pitt - thanks for the link ...

Very conflicting info out there ... not sure what to believe ...

This is very confusing for me .... to keep it simple .. I'm a

1 + 1 = 2 kinda guy .. right now

1 + 1 = 2.5 or 3 ...

Things just aren't adding up to me ..

I think it's pretty simple. He does not support these Liberals so the news sites and anyone else starts blasting him. I think the story is pretty telling. Sounds like a decent guy. Is he perfect? No, but only one ever was. Hello Jesus. I think the general public is fast finding out just how bad these Lib's are and most won't listen to CNN or CBS anymore. Drive 'em out of business.

Hysteria, More Evidence the Left Has Lost Touch with the American People

That says it all. Been a whole lot of Hysteria during the last decade and we see it in our streets at present.

Much of America has come to the opinion the Liberals and Progressives suffer from this hysteria. Rarely are they based in reality.

They tend to fall for every sad story that comes along, by a very small minority of people, then force it upon the majority of Americans through Liberal/Progressive Judges.
They then cry when the majority are forced to initiate legislation to counter this stuff. Exactly why we fight against having men using the same bathrooms as our daughters.

I'm sure no marginalized group of people have ever worked for Nazis

Hint: One is one of the biggest DNC donors and a constant lightening pole on this forum.

Well I can't ever support their Investment Strategy as it is money down the drain.

I'm pretty sure we aren't discussing the French.

George Soros is a Hungarian Jew.

Great America PAC spokesman said that we should use internment camps as legal precedent for possible options for muslims.



http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/japanese-internment-camps-muslims-231538

Megyn Kelly really shut the dude down. No wonder Fox wants her to be their major head figure.

Wow, people are really defending Bannon on here.

Doesn't even surprise me anymore.

So .... Mitt Romney may be Trumps Secretary of State? Wow!

Yes, Trump will interview Mitt on Sunday or Monday.

That shows some real class on Trumps part.
Definitely not a gloating sob like some on here.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/17/romney-an...ource-says.html