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Was going to turn on the Thursday night NFL game, but the TV was set to ESPN when I turned it on and the Houston/Louisville pregame coverage had started. I'm much more interested in how this one plays out than Saints/Panthers.

uh oh louisville

Coooooooogss

Wow, it's like Louisville doesn't even want to be on the field.

Houston is playing with them now. Daggers. Fake punts, tip ball td, trick play TD... Patrino looks stunned.

Looks like NO PLAYOFFS for mighty Louisville

Could this cause him to lose the Heisman?

I was right about Clemson being a worse matchup for OSU than Louisville. People on this site and in the country get too mesmerized by star players.

Louisville is ranked high because they killed a bad FSU team and almost beat Clemson who has played everyone close and committed 5 turnovers (and they still couldn't beat them). They got bailed out by the refs vs Duke and Virginia.

How do you know you are right? Because of tonight's score? LOL

This L has to put them out of the top ten.

Because of what I just mentioned. They can't protect Lamar and they fumble like crazy. They've also been penalized the 12th most times out of every team in college football. Very undisciplined.

buh bye petrino

...that's not gonna help Charlie Strong's chance of surviving at Texas.

Even though they're losing 9-0, Rutgers is putting a physical beating on Penn St. Hopefully it will affect their game vs. MSU.

yikes

oklahoma's beatdown is helping us big time

Oklahoma just helped us big time. Big 12 might be completely done.

It comes down to OSU vs Washington

I dislike the idea of a 2 loss team that didn't even go to its conference title game, being in the playoff. Even if it was Michigan.

This season is either going set up a blueprint for years to come, or be the year everyone looks back to and says their team should of made it based on what happens..

If we are selecting the 4 beat teams, I think it's easily Bama, Clemson, OSU, and Michigan. Regardless of what happens going forward..

USC is back.

They finally found a QB and coach.

Here's an article about the Jets draft. I don't know who this author is or how much we should value his opinion, but I found it interesting and surprisingly well written.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/19/scouting-jets-nfl-draft-options-4-glaring-needs-and-bad-qb-timing/

SPORTS
Scouting Jets’ NFL draft options: 4 glaring needs and bad QB timing
By Brian Costello November 19, 2016 | 2:08pm

NEW YORK JETS

The Jets’ season is over before you even got to taste your Thanksgiving turkey. The good news? They should have a high draft pick in April, which always provides hope and excitement for a franchise.

At the moment, the Jets are fifth in the draft order. They have six games to go, so that surely will change, but it would be surprising if the Jets finish outside the top 10.

With that in mind, The Post decided to take a look at some directions the Jets may or may not go next spring. We enlisted the help of Dan Shonka, a former scout who is now the general manager of Ourlads’ NFL Scouting and produces one of the best draft guides each year.

The Jets basically have needs at every position except defensive line, so we could have gone in many directions. We selected the most important positions on a football team, all Jets needs, to look at along with a few wild cards, who could be targets of the Jets:

Quarterback

You can debate whether the Jets should even consider drafting a quarterback after taking Christian Hackenberg in the second round of the 2016 draft and Bryce Petty in the fourth round in 2015. The Jets are hoping one emerges to be their franchise quarterback. At the moment, though, both are unknowns. Could the Jets take a quarterback again?

Probably not, mainly because the talent at the position is down this year.

“The position is ugly,” Shonka said. “It’s not very good. If you wanted a quarterback, you should have got one last year.”

Notre Dame’s Deshone Kizer is the quarterback Shonka expects to go first if the redshirt sophomore declares for the draft. One player who is a fast-riser at the moment and could get the push quarterbacks always do in the draft is North Carolina’s Mitch Trubisky.

“He’s a super-accurate guy, but he’s a one-year wonder,” Shonka said. “This is his first year playing. It makes you wonder if he is that good, how come he didn’t beat out Marquise Williams last year? The kid has got some talent.”

Clemson’s DeShaun Watson, who had a lot of preseason publicity, has had an inconsistent season, and Shonka said he believes Watson will slide into the second round.

Left tackle

The Jets did not have to worry about this position for years with D’Brickashaw Ferguson as reliable as rush-hour traffic. They plugged the spot this year with Ryan Clady, but he almost certainly is going to be a cap casualty with his $10.5 million cap number in 2017.

Alabama’s Cam Robinson is considered by most to be the top tackle in this draft, but Shonka has concerns.

“People that study him don’t like him as much as all the hype,” he said. “He looks good on the hoof and everything, but I’ll tell you the guy is on the ground all the time. That is not good. He’s got athletic ability. I don’t know if he’s top-heavy or what, but the guy is on the ground. I looked at their most recent game and was really stunned.”

Shonka’s pick as the top tackle is Wisconsin’s Ryan Ramczyk, but he is not sure the junior will leave school. Ramczyk started his career at a Division III school, but transferred to Wisconsin, where he sat out a year. At 6-foot-6, 320 pounds, he looks the part.

“This is his first year playing, and I’ll tell you what, I would take him over any of these guys,” Shonka said.

Edge rusher

Every year we talk about the Jets drafting a pass rusher. Every year, they pass. Let’s start talking again.

Myles Garrett out of Texas A&M has 26.5 career sacks and is considered the best overall player in this draft.

“He’s a natural,” Shonka said. “He can rush the passer. He can bend the edge. He’s been nicked up this year. When he’s in there, you can’t block him. He’s a terrific pass rusher. To be honest with you, I don’t think he’ll get out of the top three picks unless he doesn’t pass the physical or something.

“He’d be perfect for the Jets. He’s what you’re looking for. He’d be a guy Mike would love to have on the defense.”

There are two outside linebackers from Alabama who will be popular picks, too. Tim Williams and Ryan Anderson are both stars on Nick Saban’s defense. Most view Williams over Anderson, but Shonka has Anderson rated higher right now.

Cornerback

You may have heard that Darrelle Revis is in decline. The Jets drafted Juston Burris in the fourth round in 2016, but he has played sparingly. They have a lot of questions at the position.

“I think that’s where the Jets may end up going because of where they’re picking and who’s going to be there,” Shonka said. “I think there’s depth there. They might get one of these guys by trading down to get picks and get somebody else.”

Shonka said he likes Desmond King out of Iowa the best out of the corners.

“He’s going to go as high as they time in the 40,” Shonka said. “If he runs 4.4, he’s going to be a top-10 pick. If he runs 4.5-something, he’s going to slide down to the 20s. He’s got good ball skills. He’s tough. He’s the best tackling corner.”

Redshirt sophomores Marshon Lattimore from Ohio State and Marlon Humphrey from Alabama could be the top corners taken if they enter the draft.

Wild cards

Two big names to keep an eye on are LSU running back Leonard Fournette and Michigan safety Jabrill Peppers. They don’t fit the Jets’ biggest needs, but they might be too good to pass up on. Fournette has been making highlights for three years.

“He’s going to get a little help from [Ezekiel] Elliott, but he’s not Elliott,” Shonka said.

Shonka said the Jets would be better off taking a running back in a later round if they really want one.

Peppers might be the best athlete in this draft, but NFL teams are going to have to figure out where to play him. Michigan moves him all over the place.

“He is a terrific athlete,” Shonka said. “Whether he plays strong safety or the hybrid, he’s got excellent value as a return guy. I may miss my guess, but he’s a definite top-10 and maybe a top-five pick.”

The Jets took Darron Lee in 2016, believing he could be a hybrid linebacker/defensive back. Would they take another one? Peppers might be too good to pass up.

The draft talk is just beginning. Get ready Jets fans, you have five months of debating whom they should take coming up.

I wish that QB was coming out this year; I'd draft him at 1

3 Big Ten Teams in the top 5.

so, the in reality, with #2 OSU and #3 Mich playing, even if OSU loses, shouldn't they just swap places? the precedent being the lack of a drop that Clemson did and now with Oaklahoma in the top 10 again, our schedule strength is pretty darn good?

I think they would have to drop us out of the top 4 for that to be honest.

Quote above in article about the Jets draft needs:

“Notre Dame’s Deshone Kizer is the quarterback Shonka expects to go first”

Go where first?

"Hey, Deshone, here's a cliff. Go first."

Peen if you're reading I have a question, do you consider Florida and Miami rivals? They rarely play each other and it's why I'm asking.

I agree with you but the Big10 has to fall the right way in the final 2 weeks for it to happen. If PSU ends up in the championship game there is really NO WAY you can take both OSU and Michigan ahead of them because either OSU or Michigan will have 2 losses, OSU lost to PSU.. and neither will have even played for the conference championship. If I was PSU and got to the conference championship game and they took BOTH OSU and Michigan over me, I'd riot.....

If PSU loses and the OSU/Michigan game is very close and the winner goes on to win the conference championship, then I think it might happen.. would probably be better if it was OSU that did that.. since PSU already beat them.

They found one of those two things.

(The rumblings about Helton around town were not good early in the season. He also lucked into Darnold after choosing Max Browne over him to start the season.)

You would "riot?" Why?

Do you really think that Penn State is better than either Ohio State or that TUN? Seriously?

Look what happened last year when the "best" B1G teams went to the the Rose Bowl and the playoff last year.
MSU vs Alabama - 38-0 Alabama
Iowa vs Stanford - 45-16 Stanford

I personally think OSU was better than both of those teams, we just lost to MSU, and they got the nod rightfully so.

I am still uneasy about our team this year, but I think we are pretty good. If we beat TTUN Saturday I think we get in.

How I see it playing out.

If OSU Wins

They're in. Regardless of who wins the B10.

Michigan could possibly still get in, but would need to lose a close game to OSU, have PSU lose to MSU, and OSU win the B10 in a blowout, and then still would need a lot of other teams to lose/play poorly to get in with 2 losses..

If Michigan Wins

They may be able to get in without winning the B10, but that IMO would be silly.

Overall, I still hate the idea of a team that didn't even play for It's Conference Title being a "lock" to compete for a National Championship..

I think OSU and UM are two of the best 4 teams in the country, I also just feel really weird about considering both of them making it. Especially if PSU goes to the B10 title game..

It's going to be interesting. While itll be a 2nd loss for either, how far can losing to the #2 or #3 team really drop you?

Hopefully the committee doesn't back themselves into a corner, but also hopefully they don't take the easy route.. Not that I know which is which..

It will be interesting. I think Saturdays game is a play in game for the teams.

The Gators and Bama will play for the SEC Championship. I don't expect the Gators to win, but even if they do, Bama will still get the nod for the playoffs....as they should. The SEC east was pretty weak this year.

How cool would it be if the NCAA figured a way to have a 16 team field? Then it would be arguements over who is 16 and 17 rather than leave out teams with a real claim to being in the field. Heck, even 8 teams would include teams with a real claim.

I'm still trying to figure out how TUN lost to an unranked team and didn't drop out of the top 4, let alone not even a spot, especially this late in the season.

Looks like Speight is day to day, which is a huge deal. If he plays, I think it's an even game

Because 2 vs 3 sounds better than 2 vs 5

It depends on which OSU team shows up. I think the team that beat Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc... can hang with anyone (even Alabama), though the one that played Indiana, Penn State, ... is a different beast I have less faith in

It seems like our O is like biploar, Either in a shell or explosive

What's the biggest game of the upcoming college football weekend that involves teams from Ohio and Michigan?

Toledo (9-2) @ #21 Western Michigan (11-0) - Friday the 25th on ESPN2

The Mid-American Conference West Division title is on the line and the winner advances to the MAC championship.