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Why not. Reset the QB depth chart Hue.

When did you find out all you need to know? Preseason? Training camp? or the few quarters he played Week 1?

I don't believe RG3 will ever play for us again. Was his injury that devastating? It wasn't his throwing arm, it was he opposite shoulder. The hit he took wasn't that violent.

I don't know, seems like a very long time to heal. And according to Mary Kay in an above post, we're talking a couple weeks until another scan. Something seems fishy to me.

Robert Griffin III - QB - Browns

ESPN's Josina Anderson reports "there have been discussions" about Robert Griffin III (shoulder, injured reserve) returning to practice this week.

That escalated quickly. EVP Sashi Browns said Monday Griffin was "on pace" to return this season, but it seemed like he was still a couple weeks away. That could be true even if he returns to practice this week, but it is starting to look more and more likely Griffin returns to the starting lineup at some point this year. Still, he is not worth stashing in standard formats.
Source: Josina Anderson on Twitter Nov 15 - 11:05 AM

I agree, I never want to see MCCOWN again under center for the BROWNS, its totally pointless, the man is certainly not our future, and he sure as hell don't know how to win!

To me it looked like his arm took the brunt, but that was a long time ago. I'm not sure about a shoulder, so I will take your word for it. It just seems strange that you hear nothing about him, or from him. I would love to see him with Coleman and Pryor, at least he can get the ball downfield.

I think I'm just battle worn watching this team. The3 offense has potential,IMO, but the defense is hard to watch.

Really think that RG3 days at the pro level are over and done. The way he is getting injured. Plus when he plays healthy, he can be good. But he has been way too much injured.

I hoped that we would have traded McCown in training camp ..... but people said I was nuts. That very well actually be the case, but I don't think that it can be debated that McCown has done nothing that helps this team win. I wish that we would have managed to get a draft pick for him.

RG3 cleared for full contact

On Monday, Browns coach Hue Jackson said that quarterback Robert Griffin III had not yet been medically cleared for full contact after breaking a bone in his left shoulder but that the team expected it to happen soon.

It didn’t take long. Jackson announced at a press conference that Griffin, who has been practicing since last week, has been fully cleared on Tuesday.

Jackson also said on Monday that he wasn’t ready to make an announcement about who will be starting when the team returns from its bye week in Week 14 and that did not change overnight. Jackson did say, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, that Griffin’s throwing doesn’t look like it has been affected by the injury to his non-throwing shoulder.

With Cody Kessler out of the concussion protocol, Jackson will be making a choice between Kessler, Griffin and Josh McCown although McCown did not practice on Tuesday because of a swollen finger. Griffin started the opening game of the season and completed 12-of-26 passes for 190 yards and an interception before being knocked out by the shoulder injury.


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I for one am hoping for RGIII to start.

Please. No more Kessler.

McColt? Is he available? Tim Colt? Colt Quinn?

They all run together after awhile when we are trying to see what we have . . . still.

Play RG3; McCown moves like a sled.

Yep. A QB scared to throw the ball is probably the worst quality to have.

A rather watch McCown throw picks. At least he isn't afraid to launch the rock

Glad you agree, but I better clarify before the usual suspects jump my ass.

I get why people would say they wanna see more of Cody and not McCown. I really do.

My point is that I want to evaluate the rest of the offensive talent. And I think that Cody makes that damn near impossible. I admit that I don't feel he is a future starter and I could be wrong about that, but I wanna see what some of these other guys on offense can do w/out being stymied by his [I can't say this word on here] play.

Now there's a nasty visual...

LOL...........

He shows a lot of promise when his first few starts. But then he just got.....I dunno.

We have all watched NFL games for years now. We have seen multiple reasons across the league as to why quarterbacks get benched. Poor play, high INT, etc.

However, I'm young, but I this is the first time I have ever seen a QB get benched because he refuses to throw the rock down the field.

And yet the reality is......Hue made the right decision on that. It's one thing if a QB can't throw a WR open. That's a skill learned over time, and he's just a rookie.

It's another to watch game after game WR burning defenders, or getting one on one coverage deep, and our QB simply refusing to pull the trigger.

That's highly annoying.

And yea that's why I want rg3 to start the rest of the way. At least he has deep ball accuracy. At least he's a legitimate threat to Rocket the ball on go routes, post routes and such.

Watching McCown and Kessler play the position really made me miss the days of DA. His short throw game was crap, but man those deep throws were things of absolute beauty.

As you aptly stated in a previous post. Cody is either unwilling or unable to push the ball down the field...doesn't matter much which one it is. It is a problem...a huge problem. so no more Cody RGIII is the only chance we have to win at least one frickin' game.

IMO starting anybody but RG3 is pointless. We know McCown, and Cody can't throw the deeper balls -and I don't just mean long bombs.
I'd rather see Hogan than McCown or Cody to be honest.

McCown can throw the deep ball, but he's 37 or so.........time to see what we have w/RGIII and maybe Hogan.

j/c...

I expect Hue to trot RGIII out there and rightfully so. In all likliehood, 2 if not 3 of the QBs will see some playing time before the season ends. With Greco out for season, an already abysmal line just got worse.

Somebody is going to get hurt....again. The Steelers and Giants both ranked near the bottom of the league in sacks (If I recall correctly) prior to playing the Browns and each got 8 and 7 sacks respectively. This doesn't include QB hits or hurries. I'm just not sure it even matters who the sacrificial lamb is at this point.

Good luck RGIII.

I agree with this.

I'd start him but see very little reason for hope that his injury issues disappear. Can he go the remaining games behind our current line injury free?
Doubt it...

just remember all summer rg3 was talking about throwing the ball away and sliding? i hope he takes that serious this time.

we might not see a qb better in draft than rg4 so might as well keep him. rg5 does have a good arm and id like to not hear how fast he is. i mean he will never be a running back or reciever.

his job is to see the field and throw...

to be fair, he didn't get injured because of the o line.

he got injured because he tried to flex up on a DB and it backfired.

unlike mccown and kessler, rg3 can take off and when he sees open field if the pocket is collapsing.

what sucks about RG3 injuries in DC was the same problem here....the guy seems to injure himself. he didn't get injured from getting crushed in the pocket.

so, there's hope.

RG3 is done for. I would let RG3 finish the season just because I hate to see McCown back out there and kessler is a really good backup that can keep things calm if he has enough playmakers around him but he doesnt have the arm nor durability to be your starter atleast not at this point.

going forward, Bring in Mike Glennon to run the show while draft pick Mason Rudolph develops. I believe his Quick release, good arm and good accuracy will make him an even better pro than he was in college. major upside with the kid from Okla St.

we have RG3 signed for another year.

it would make no sense to bring in glennon.

and who?

Rg3 has had 1 semi decent game in the last 3 years. Mason Rudolph is the one quarterback in this draft that really gets me excited about his potential. Quickest release I have seen in some time.

Rudolph is a guy I watched quite a bit of. He's big and has gaudy numbers.

I had to stop watching, though. His accuracy is horrible.

I hope someone doesn't come in and tell us that accuracy can be developed in the NFL.

LOL

My (very) "general understanding" is that completion percentage can be expected to drop by 10% from college to the NFL. Granted that accuracy and completion percentage do not perfectly correlate...

Now I'm not a QB guru.. but if he has a really quick release and poor accuracy, it's probably because he is sacrificing good mechanics for speed. You can improve his mechanics but that's going to slow down his release and it's only going to make his accuracy a little better....

And to do that and see if you get decent results, you are talking a few years of practice to make those mechanics changes instinctive and effective, not an offseason...

That's very logical and I am not being rude, but I watched the dude. His accuracy is just awful and it has nothing to do w/a quick release.

To be fair, I didn't say it was because of his quick release, I said it was probably poor mechanics which may be attributed to his quick release.. but it is kind of weird how so much of it is just intuitive....

I always relate it to golf, you have hundreds of guys on the lower tours or highly ranked amateurs with near perfect swings who just aren't good enough.. then you have Jim Furyk, who has a swing that nobody else could emulate or explain... and he's a great pro... sometimes it's just hard to explain.

If it's true that Coleman and Pryor were getting separation over the top, then you NEED to start Griffin.

Kessler can't throw it, and McCown won't until it's too late..

I'm not saying RG3 is great, but the dude has a pretty deep pass.. Let him chuck it a few times, so Crowell has some room to run..

I also never want to watch Josh McCown play, ever again. He's reached Brandon Weeden status..

yeah, at least RG3 is more accurate down the field. gives us a chance for big plays

His name is Mitch Trubisky. Take him with the Philly pick and don't look back.