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Carolina will have to beat San Diego if they want to win again this year, so this would be the week to do it. all the other teams they go up against are fighting for playoffs. The Bears face 4 teams in the playoff hunt including the other three in their division...

ah heck:

CLE: 0-12 [0.569] vs. CIN, @BUF, vs. SD, @PIT
SF: 1-11 [0.531] vs. NYJ, @ATL, @LA, vs. SEA
JAX: 2-10 [0.556] vs. MIN, @HOU, vs. TEN, @IND
CHI: 3-9 [0.500] @DET, vs. GB, vs. WAS, @MIN
NYJ: 3-9 [.517] @SF, vs. MIA, @NE, vs. BUF
TEN (f/ LA): 4-8 [0.507] vs. ATL, @SEA, vs. SF, vs. AZ
CAR: 4-8 [0.528] vs SD, @WAS, vs ATL, @TB
CIN: 4-7-1 [0.545] @CLE, vs. PIT, @HOU, vs. BAL
CLE (f/ PHI): 5-7 [0.524] vs. WAS, @BAL, vs. NYG, vs. DAL
NO: 5-7 [0.531] @TB, @AZ, vs. TB, @ATL
SD: 5-7 [0.563] @CAR, vs. OAK, @CLE, vs. KC
AZ: 5-6-1 [0.444] @MIA, vs. NO, @SEA, @LA

The 49ers will probably take one of the games home vs Jets (more on that later) or at LA (already beat them 28-0 this season and Rams are reeling). So the Browns should be safe with #1 even if theyhave one of those crazy games they win that they had no business winning.

Jacksonville could potentially take two of their last four, but that would only put them at 4 wins, so it would not affect our draft slot on either end.

The Bears are starting Jimmy Clausen the rest of the way out and facing 4 playoff contenders. They will likely not win again.

The Jets are starting Bryce Petty their remaining four games, per Todd Bowles. San Francisco and Miami are definitely winnable games for them, but they may be checked out completely at this point. Philly has a tougher SOS than them so the Jets would have to win three games and Philly to lose out for it to affect our draft slot, so again, not likely.

LA will win at least one game and should have a chance in the last three games if their D is healthy in time for Seattle. For some reason they play Seattle tough. They would have to win 2 with Philly losing out in order for it to affect our draft slot.

Carolina likely needs to win this week in order to win again this season I think. I bet they will be motivated this week and take down a lame duck Chargers team. If Philly loses out, and CAR wins one, CAR should be picking after the Eagles, though the SOS will be very close.

Cincinnati will probably beat us and will probably beat Houston, even with their injuries.

Philly has three home games remaining. They play good teams but man I just can't seem them losnig out. I hope they do, obviously, but they will probably win one more. I'm glad Baltimore is the road game for them.

NO plays 3 out fo 4 on the road but should win at least one of those games and has stronger SOS than Philly.

SD will win one or two more games.

Arizona should win one or two more as well, though they play 3 of 4 on the road.

In other words, Phill probably won't move jup more than one spot, and probably not back more than 2. So they will probably give us a pick between 8-11.

Good breakdown. Thanks a ton.

How crazy is it that the two best WR prospects IMO are not even coming out of the P5. Courtland Sutton and Corey Davis are going to be scary in the NFL. They both have good speed and great size. I wonder if they'll slip in the draft since they're not P5. Honestly, I think Sutton could have been a Heisman candidate if it wasn't for his QB, who can't even throw a go route. I mean, the kid is horrendous.

Taywan Taylor is another guy not being talked about enough.

homer issues aside, I'd take a long look at Elflein in an early/mid round

No love for Mike Williams?

Williams is a stud. I love how he high=points the ball. This is a guy who will catch the ball in traffic and bail out his qb. He's going to be a difference maker in the NFL, provided he can stay healthy.

A little love for Mike Williams. I think he could make a great, big, strong target, but I don't think he looks nearly as good as the other two guys. But, I'd still call him the 3rd best WR in the draft.

Nope not never..

I understand winning games now is "pointless" and only "hurts" as it relates to draft position.

But I've literally never rooted for the team to lose, even if this draft had an Andrew Luck..

I know losing is better for the future, but as soon as the game starts, I am all in for the win..

Now, by about the 3rd quarter, when that feeling has washed over and were clearly not going to win, ill be back to talking about the draft.

CLE: 0-13 [0.569] @BUF, vs. SD, @PIT
SF: 1-12 [0.497] @ATL, @LA, vs. SEA
JAX: 2-11 [0.548] @HOU, vs. TEN, @IND
CHI: 3-10 [0.521] vs. GB, vs. WAS, @MIN
NYJ: 4-9 [.476] vs. MIA, @NE, vs. BUF
TEN (f/ LA): 4-9 [0.518] @SEA, vs. SF, vs. AZ
CAR: 5-8 [0.503] @WAS, vs ATL, @TB
NO: 5-8 [0.536] @AZ, vs. TB, @ATL
CLE (f/ PHI): 5-8 [0.538] @BAL, vs. NYG, vs. DAL
SD: 5-8 [0.544] vs. OAK, @CLE, vs. KC
AZ: 5-7-1 [0.464] vs. NO, @SEA, @LA
CIN: 5-7-1 [0.500] vs. PIT, @HOU, vs. BAL
IND: 6-7 [0.497] @MIN, @OAK, vs. JAX
BUF: 6-7 [0.503] vs. CLE, vs. MIA, @ NYJ



Currently at #1 and #9. These SOS's don't include games that haven't been played yet, which dropped Cincy's SOS from 0.545 to 0.500 after playing us. That means Philly will end with the strongest SOS of all the teams currently 5-8, and would be picking after either team currently 6-7 should they win one more game than either of those two teams from here on out.

The 49ers blew their best chance to win this weekend giving up a big lead again Bryce Petty's Jets. If we win a game, we pick #2.

Jacksonville has three divisional games left, which means three chances to win. Tennessee is their only home game of the three and that team has been playing the best in their division. Probably will finish with 2 wins. Hopefully IND beats them.

Chicago choked away a chance to win this weekend, and have three games left against division opponents all trying to make the playoffs at this point. Will not win more than one game, so will not affect our draft standing.

The Jets have to win TWO more games to bump Philly, even if Philly loses out, because of SOS. however, Tannehill is out for the year, so if the Jets can play with a "nothing to lose" attitude this weekend against Matt Moore and the Dolphins and if the attitudes/blame game in Buffalo are bad enough by week 17 that they could squeak out a win, there is an OUTSIDE (10%ish) chance they could get behind Philly's pick... again, if Philly loses out.

The Rams have two home games left, including against San Francisco. Their morale is horrible right now (see Gurley's comments after the game) but will probably want revenge for that opening season humiliation against the 49ers. It will come down to whether or not they can beat Arizona at home week 17 to see if they can get behind the Eagles. Probably like a 20% chance they can do it.

Who knows with the Panthers. Like I said last week they beat the Chargers but seems doubtful they could rally against a playoff contender these last three weeks. Probably another 20% chance or so they win another game, with only one game at home and it's against Atlanta.

The Saints, who just lost at Tampa, have Tampa at home next week (not this week.) I think they'll probably win that one despite tampa being on a big streak. They play at Arizona this week. I think probably a 70% chance they win again this year.

The Eagles get to play Baltimore coming off a Monday nighter, but it's a road game. The home game against the Giants makes me nervous. We'll see who is playing and who is resting week 17. seems like Philly will probably get one and maybe two wins still.

San Diego will probably beat us, but if they and Philly both win a game, Philly's pick will be after SDs.

Arizona will probably win one between the home game vs. NO and the road game @LA.

Cincy could lose out at this point despite looking good two weeks in a row. Houston is fighting for their divisional crown, is playing at home, and sandwiched between their two rivals. My guess is Cincy loses out. Hopefully they beat Baltimore, but I doubt it.

Indy should beat Jacksonville and Buffalo should beat Cleveland and Miami.

so if I had to guess, I'd say Philly wins one more game and we end up picking 1st and 11th. Probably Garrett and either Tabor or Humphrey, whoever makes it that far. If Philly manages to lose out, we could end up with #1 and #7, or maybe even #1 and #6, which would put us in play for both Garrett and Jamal Adams with our top two picks.

DeShone Kizer entering 2017 draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/12/notre-dame-qb-deshone-kizer-opts-for-nfl-draft/

WElcome to the 49ers Mr. Kizer

Since we're talking rankings, what do the resident experts think about Wisconsin tackle, Ryan Ramczyk? Seems like every site says Cam Robinson from Bama is the best but Draft Tek LOVES this Ramcxyk guy and has him as their favorite.

U think that Belke and Kelly keep there jobs? .. and if they do ... u don't think the bafoon brothers will take Watson?

We still doing this QB thing? Waitin to finish up the UNC-Duke discussion before Clem-Aub

Absolutely ... this is fun ... i should get back to it in the AM .. sorry ... no clue how but i forgot ..

Diam, you've watched Kizer his entire career. Tell me if you feel this is accurate. Kizer reminds me of Aaron Brooks (when he was good).

That's weird, I was specifically told Kizer would not be leaving school.



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This poster should have just listened to me and saved himself a lot of trouble, Kizer was always going to the NFL.

*L* ...

I'll eat that crow ... no problem ...

How much time did u spend on that ... hope it was worth it .. *L*

About a month ago I also said he would come out .. when i remembered we had a junior to be that we red shirted this year .... and if Wimbush can hit the broad side of the barn Kizer wouldn't even be starting for ND next year ... not starting your 3ed year after basically starting for the two years before .. NOT GOOD FOR YOUR DRAFT STATUS ... *L* ..

As u see by my posts I kept saying HES NOT READY ...

So far i've read one draft article .. they talked to Kiper and some other draft guru ... they both said the same thing ...

Kipper said Kizer shouldn't come out he needs another year .... McShay agreed and said he's hes NOT READY!!!

Weird ... for some reason it only comes up in a small box and gives me no URL to copy and paste ... if u go to google ... kiper kizer mcshay espn article ... that search will get u there .. its the 25 questions article ..

Kiper: There's really only one guy right now, and he might not even enter the draft. That's North Carolina's Mitch Trubisky, a fourth-year junior who is in his first season as the starter. Trubisky has thrown 28 touchdown passes to only four interceptions, but he's still green -- with another year of seasoning, he could be the No. 1 pick in the 2018 draft. He's not ready to play right away in the NFL.

I don't see any other first-rounders in the group. Notre Dame's DeShone Kizer, a third-year sophomore, has to go back to school. Clemson's Deshaun Watson has taken a step back this season. Underclassmen Luke Falk and Patrick Mahomes could use another year in school, and they don't project as first-rounders.

I wouldn't say it's likely, but there's a chance no quarterback goes in the first round. The last time that happened was 1996.

3. Would you go so far as to call this a bad QB class, Todd?

McShay: I'll say this: It's not a great year to be drafting early and needing a quarterback. There's some depth (depending on how many underclassmen declare), but I don't see any elite prospects among those I've reviewed so far. My top five quarterbacks are all underclassmen -- and I hope most of them return to school (Watson, my No. 2 QB, has already declared). Mel is right, Kizer needs another year. Trubisky has only 12 starts. Miami's Brad Kaaya can continue to get bigger/stronger. Falk comes with too many questions ranging from system to frame.

Hmmmm .... so i was WRONG on one part .. but DEAD NUTS ON THE OTHER PART ...

Glad u had some fun ...

Diam you should have know better though. Nobody wants to deal with Brian Kelly.

A free agent I want: Chance Warmack. He's been average in Tennessee, so he's technically a "bust." However, he's a project I'd like to try and develop along with Cooper.

Five minutes or less. It was definitely worth it.

Cooper had a nice 1st game IMO. I realize the FO would get a comp pick if he signs elsewhere, but if he has 3 more "good" games, I'd like to sign him here.

Took a sneak peak at 2018 prospects. It's going to be strong for QBs, but REALLY weak as a whole. It's the complete opposite of this class.

Arden Key and Derwin James are really nice, but that's it. This shouldn't dictate decisions for 2017. However, at least before this year you KNEW Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Cam Robinson, Jabrill Peppers, Leonard Fournette, and a few others.

I love college football and know who future stars are before ESPN does. However, I'm having a hard time thinking of other guys names. There hasn't been a true sophomore that has really stood out. However, that makes sense given how loaded this draft is. Just be prepared for a lot of potential 1 year wonder guys.

Shall we bring up your takes on Goff?

QFT. I remember him basically making everett golson break down and cry on the field. If my son played football there's no way I'd send him to play for kelly.

Derwin James is a beast, I hope that dude makes a full recovery.

Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen (who was bad, hurt, and/or poorly coordinated in 2016), Saquon Barkley, Derwin James, Jake Browning, and Calvin Ridley.

I was trying to imply outside of the QBs nobody has stood out.

I like Drew Lock from Missouri as well.

I actually said that also after about our 6th game or so ... i remember saying a few times before I remembered about Wimbush that if he does come out it may be to get away from Kelly ,...

he's an a-hole on the sideline .. sad part is .. he was better this year than last ...

I would actually be surprised if we don't have 3 or 4 undeclassman transfer this year cause of Kelly ... would not shock me at all ...

WOW ... your good at this .. would have taken me an hour .... *L* ...

Would have taken me a week to figure out how the search engine works on this.

It originally took me a week, but now I got it down pat.

Write us a tutorial. I heard Purp will pay you for that.

Wrist surgery for Red Raider QB Mahomes … According to an ESPN report via RedRaidersports.com, Texas Tech junior QB Patrick Mahomes, the nation’s leading passer in 2016, recently underwent surgery to repair a wrist injury. What isn’t known at this time, is whether the injury will affect Mahomes’ decision whether to enter the 2017 draft and, if so, what impact it will have on his pre-draft preparations and participation. Mahomes was able to play through the injury through the second half of the season, but published reports also indicate there will be something of a rehab period. Mahomes is currently the 4th rated QB on the GBN ranking for the position and will show up with an early to mid second round grade on an updated GBN Big Board which should be posted later this week or early next.

http://gbnreport.com

Malik McDowell is going to be a monster in the pros.

Didn't know where else to put this...been working on making gifs this morning....

anyhow Dominic Sanders is a player that is currently considered a late round Safety prospect that I like that can make plays like this:

As a Georgia guy, I really like Sanders. My only issue is his size. He's good some good instinct to him tho.

You might want to try Gyazo. It's pretty easy to screen capture image, but I really haven't tried to use it for gifs. But I quickly gif'd your gif (Yay transcodes) and it seemed easy and quick enough to use.