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Initial thought, Sashi may want to rethink the comment that they have changed the culture. Fans seem to think differently..... 
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So Haslam would make more $$$$ with a home game in London next season ??
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Used to make fun of Bengals fans for being fair-weather. No, they just wise up faster, apparently. Sitting outside in this weather to watch this team is ass-inine.
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Initial thought, Sashi may want to rethink the comment that they have changed the culture. Fans seem to think differently..... An empty stadium. The legacy of analytics. I hope Sashi, Jimmy, Depodesta are proud.
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Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ #Browns HC Hue Jackson said RG3 showed he belongs, had poise, ran around, protected himself Tweet
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RGSEE YA! Mr. Dink and Dunk. Kessler threw further down field and that is not a Kessler plug.
0-16.
Not so sold on Hue right now either. I expected us to at least compete in this game after a bye week.
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Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ #Browns HC Hue Jackson said RG3 showed he belongs, had poise, ran around, protected himself Tweet 
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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ogbah is about the only bright spot IMO ... and maybe crow
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ #Browns HC Hue Jackson said RG3 showed he belongs, had poise, ran around, protected himself Tweet X100 Don't even think I'll bother to watch the last two after that.
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Still not even close to coming down on Hue for any of this. We'd find plenty of ways to look considerably worse with the last 2 coaches. People will say I'm wrong or who cares because of our current record but I can't be swayed from this opinion.
I'd give Hue all of 2017 AND 2018, regardless.
Horton can take a hike though.
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EDIT: Sorry replying to the tweet on RG3. That has to be a smokescreen for the draft. On Dec 11th, it's a bit early...
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They need to make a splash in the draft. Plenty of ammo to pick @1 then come back for more. I know some will say, "We have too many holes"! I'd rather go big (Garret & Allen) than piddle around plugging guys in here and there. That's just me. We could have a pretty nasty D. I suppose you could do it with the O if you wanted. I'm just seeing two outstanding D players that could make the LBs and DBs better, stop the run and pressure the QB.
QB remains an issue of course but not entirely sold on any of this crop at #1.
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It's over, all over. The RG3 experiment is done, there needs to be a change in something on the coaching staff, responsibility, switches in duties, something.
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Still not even close to coming down on Hue for any of this. We'd find plenty of ways to look considerably worse with the last 2 coaches. People will say I'm wrong or who cares because of our current record but I can't be swayed from this opinion.
I'd give Hue all of 2017 AND 2018, regardless.
Horton can take a hike though. I'm inclined to agree. We botched 2 wins against the Ravens and Dolphins early doors that was so Browns-esque it was not funny. This was a complete re-build. I feel for the fans paying for tickets, hell, I feel for me watching. Unless you have faith things improve, life becomes a dark and soul-less existence.
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RG3rd and long. Playcalling didn't seem to reflect the weather. RG3 didn't look good, but I don't put it all on him. He hadn't played since week one and didn't look on the same page with his receivers early (see Barnidge hit in the bicep)
Ogbah looked pretty good. I saw him be disruptive despite double teams a couple times. He and Garrett could be a good pairing.
The OL looked better than expected. Erving and Cooper seemed to get some movement in the run game. I'm not sure why we kept trying to pass. Seemed too windy to pass deep, and was too slippery to cut.
Collins was active again today. Will he stay here?
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Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ #Browns HC Hue Jackson said RG3 showed he belongs, had poise, ran around, protected himself Tweet If he really said that, it should be a fireable offense.
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Still not even close to coming down on Hue for any of this. We'd find plenty of ways to look considerably worse with the last 2 coaches. People will say I'm wrong or who cares because of our current record but I can't be swayed from this opinion.
I'd give Hue all of 2017 AND 2018, regardless.
Horton can take a hike though. If Hue is kept and he doesn't win more than at least 4 games he's gone. I think Hue will be fired after next year. This team is just that far behind in talent.
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I'm sure the homers will tell us how this front office is turning it around
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RG3, a little rust that's all. Just rust. He'll be better next week. 
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- Ogbah had a good game. He's been playing a lot better since they committed to playing him at DE
- Collins may have had his best game as a Brown
- The run game was working, Hue went away from it.
- Flea flicker from the two yard line was a hoot
- Pryor was not happy about his lack of involvement in the game today.
- Bengals let off the gas after going up 20-0. They were on cruise control after that.
- This team desperately needs a QB. The rebuild doesn't even start until one is on the roster.
- I can't believe there are still 3 more games left.
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RG3, a little rust that's all. Just rust. He'll be better next week. Maybe he should soak in iced rustoleum.
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We need to draft a player who can stop the run.
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Terrible offence to watch, a plodding bore. although Crow made it interesting in second half with long runs, OL looked good at times. The pass protection wasn't bad mostly, but is anyone getting open?
The announcer said Rg3 was finding the right guy at times, I dunno.... sigh....
Our return units suck. Have we gotten great field from a ko return just once this season? I don't remember it if we did. Dalton didn't seem to struggle with the wind, our back 7 can't cover worth crap. And why do we always get illegal block/ holding calls on kick returns? Maddening. The drop by the fullback sums up life as a browns fan.
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My post game thought is Hue is in over his head. Big ego, poor staff choices, poor QB choices, poor OC. His comments on RG3 make me think he's trying to get fired because he knows he's in over his head.
Adam Gase is light years ahead of Hue. Adam. Gase. With Ryan Tannehill. Ryan. Tannehill. Just makes me shake my head.
Was Hue really that sought after in the off-season or did he know the Browns might be his only shot?
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I did see an article that said we are interested in Myles Garret with our #1 pick. Should have waited until Jan. 2nd to say this. We just ruined the guys holidays. 
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Pryor must talk a lot of trash. This is two games in a row the opponents CBs have gone after him post game....
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Pacman was apparently talking trash all through the week on Pryor.
But yeah, Pryor has always been a talker.
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We need to draft a player who can stop the run. The Browns need more than one.
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J RGSEE YA! Mr. Dink and Dunk. Kessler threw further down field and that is not a Kessler plug.
0-16.
Not so sold on Hue right now either. I expected us to at least compete in this game after a bye week. Man, I don't post much, I think my last comment was way back in week 6 or so when I pretty confidently dismissed the 0-16 talk; it's just so statistically improbable for a team to not at least win a game. Well now I see it as more likely than not. The Bengals aren't very good. They did not have their best player and yet won with absolute ease. These Browns show nothing each week except a knack for losing the field position and time of possession battles and playing boring, predictable, losing football. No improvement. Nothing that seems hopeful. 20 some rookies that not only are not making any impact in games,but are not appearing to improve at all (Brody-Calhoun and Ogbah are exceptions in some games). Coaching, scheme, and play calling all suck. It is really difficult to be significantly worse than last year yet they have accomplished that.
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RG3, a little rust that's all. Just rust. He'll be better next week. Maybe he should soak in iced rustoleum. 
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Collins won't be here next year. He'd be a fool to stay regardless of any contract offer. RGIII was another bust idea of signing a 'superstar veteran qb' to save us (i.e. Garcia etc).
Jimmy Garoppolo trade rumor craziness is just that. Brady is 39. Jimmy is their future. He isn't going any where.
I agree with many of the college draft analysis gurus: no first round caliber qb's in the upcoming draft. Best pics are defense and some good O linemen. No barn burners.
And in the we could have had category....we could have had Zeke, we could have had Bosa, we could have had some talent but passed again.
The problem is not another new front office, new administration, new coaching staff etc. The problem is in the owners box. When so many front offices and so many coachin staffs have failed consecutively over so many years it's obvious that James Arthur "Jimmy" Haslam III is the big problem we have.
Now ticket sales have tanked. PSL's are being offered in fire sales. Merchandise sales have tanked. The fans are abandoning the Browns after decades of loyalty. The colossal uniform and imagine redesign has flopped.
I wish he'd sell the team to someone who cares.
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Post game thoughts? The game is over and there's only 3 more to go. If the Browns cannot identify and acquire football talent it doesn't matter how many draft picks they have, how much cap space they have or who coaches. You simply cannot keep missing on getting talent; draft or free agency.
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Crowell ran good in the 2nd half on the 2 draw plays
the Brows need a TE in the draft Barnidge is very average last yr was a fluke
Erving played decent he didn't get blown back until the 4th q.
Demario Davis got abused today
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RG3 had a day that's indescribably bad...there aren't words. He got a great amount of protection and was just awful. I'd almost rather have McCown...this team needs a damn QB. When the hell will that happen?
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It's nice that he can throw it 50 yards, I just wish he wouldn't wait until the receiver is 45 yards down the field to let it go.
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I can wait to see the RG3 fan club defend him now
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Pass protection was pretty dang good today. I agree with Tulsa, if he would've thrown earlier and hit the receiver in stride who knows what happens.
As it was, receivers and db's were standing around long enough to share pictures of their families with each other, setting up play dates for their kids, favorite beers...
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM my two cents...
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I can wait to see the RG3 fan club defend him now What RGIII fan club? The guy just finished his first game as a Brown. Didn't even finish his first start as a Brown and hasn't played since...
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM my two cents...
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The guy just finished his first game as a Brown. Didn't even finish his first start as a Brown and hasn't played since... RGIII actually did finish the game against the Eagles.
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