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Next man up in the shooting gallery. Monty Python Week: "Run away! Run away!"

Little cultural insert from Holy Grail. I want a win.

We still have his rights. And I think he's been out of rehab for a few months. But just keep on moving on. There's nothing to see there.

He meant from rehab.

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Here is a video of it. Doesn't look like there should have been a flag. Oh, and the refs aren't out to get the Browns.


[video:youtube]http://www.nfl.com/videos/cleveland-brow...r-injury-Week-1[/video]

I agree that there shouldn't have been a flag on that play.

Are the refs out to get the Browns? I wouldn't put it that way, but they are definitely biased against the poorer teams in the league. Considering the Browns are the worst team in the league, calls tend to go against them.

tony's loving it and his sarcasm is a bit of a payback for being blackballed by Berea. Hell Jason Lackoffornication has more sources that espn's cleveland beat writer lol.

Release from re-has bro ... sorry about the lack of clarity ...

FWIW ...

Robert Griffin III - QB - Browns
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports there's a "real chance" Robert Griffin III (shoulder, injured reserve) is the Browns' Week 14 starter.
Griffin has yet to even be formally activated off injured reserve, but most signs are pointing toward him starting against the Bengals. The lost-year Browns might as well take a four-game look — if Griffin can stay healthy that long — headed into the offseason. We'd consider the odds heavily stacked against Griffin being the team's 2017 quarterback.

Is it too late to trade or Jimmy Garappolo and salvage the last few games?

Yeah, okay.

Fyi ..

Robert Griffin III will start Week 14 against the Bengals.
This was expected but is now official. The Browns want to see what they have in Griffin after losing him in the season opener. Griffin will get the final four weeks to audition for the 2017 starting job, but the odds are stacked against him. Cleveland can save $7.5 million from releasing Griffin this offseason.
Source: Mike Silver on Twitter Dec 8 - 11:00 AM

I know that this was a Mike Silver quote, but I guess I don't understand why the odds are stacked against him any more or less than any other QB.

Kessler hasn't been lighting it up and he's had issues with staying healthy, same with McCown..

I kinda expect Kessler will be around, but I wouldn't be surprised to see both the other two gone. Maybe/probably Hogan also.

Not that we didn't all ready know this ...

Browns coach Hue Jackson admits Robert Griffin III's starting stint is an "audition" for next season.
Griffin, who simply hasn't been the same since his magical rookie season, is going to have a hard time acing it. Jackson also said "availability" was the most important thing for a quarterback. RGIII has rarely had it. Jackson said he made the decision to start Griffin after watching tape of Wednesday's practice. It's an intriguing experiment that will probably amount to nothing.

Well, there is this:



There is also an propensity to be injured and poor play for the last few years or so, along w/other teams were not interested in him when he became a free agent. I think the Jets were the only team to bring him in, and that was probably because Fitz was holding out.

RG3 on Hue Jackson: 'When you see a coach break down, it makes you want to win for him'

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/12/rg3_on_hue_jackson_when_you_se.html

BEREA, Ohio -- The sight of Hue Jackson welling up with tears after the 27-13 loss to the Giants was not lost on his players.

They love playing for him. They know how meaningful it would be for him to bust the 0-12 streak Sunday against the Bengals, where he spent four seasons before taking the Browns job.

"It's paramount,'' said Robert Griffin III, who's expected to start. "It's his former team, but I just think when you see coach break down like that, as a player in this locker room, we already wanted to play hard for him, but it makes you want to play harder for him and win for him because he doesn't deserve to be 0-12.

"Talking about is not going to do anything about it but I think seeing that emotion from coach lights a fire in everybody, so we've got to go out and prove it on Sunday.''

Left tackle Joe Thomas also knows what a win would mean to Jackson against the team which rescued him after he had been fired as head coach of the Raiders in 2011. His recent stint with the Bengals, including the 2014-15 seasons as offensive coordinator, was the second of his career. He previously was receivers coach from 2004-06. So he's spent more time in Cincinnati than anywhere in his 16 years in the NFL.

"Obviously getting a win this week would be really big for us for a number of reasons, but I think the man that's leading the ship right now is very well-respected in the locker room and we understand how important it would be for him to be able to beat the Bengals,'' said Thomas. "I think that's a little extra motivation for the guys in the locker room."

Jackson had a chance to succeed Lewis, as a succession plan was in place. But he opted to come here instead. Now he's in jeopardy of becoming the second head coach in the NFL to go 0-16.

The last guy, Lions coach Rod Marinelli, got the axe, but the Browns have no plans of firing Jackson, according to Browns Executive Vice President of Football Operations Sashi Brown.

"Obviously, the situation has been difficult, but what I see is a football team that is still playing very hard, still having opportunity to win these football games,'' said Lewis. "It just has not broken their way."

Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict, who became close to Jackson, wouldn't say he feels for his plight.

"I love the guy," he said on a conference call Wednesday. "I'm mad that he left us, but obviously, he had to go take another opportunity. He's going to change that program. It's going to take time. You just can't come in and change it as soon as you want it to. ... He he will get that program up and running sooner or later."

Burfict said Jackson took him under his wing after he was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2012.

"I was able to talk to Hue about anything, and we have a close relationship,'' he said. "He is a great coach, a great person, a great personality. He is great motivational coach because he will get you fired up and ready to go.''






CLEVELAND, Ohio - Browns coach Hue Jackson showed up late for his postgame press conference after about a 40-minute meeting with his bosses, but assured folks his job is still safe. Then, he welled up with tears when talking about how hard 0-12 is following Sunday's 27-13 loss to the Giants.

Asked if he'll take some time over the bye week to get away, he said, "I'm going to be very honest with all of you. I don't know how to do that yet. Because being 0-12 is probably the hardest thing ever.''

With that, he stopped, fought back the tears, pursed his lips and tapped the side of podium about eight times to compose himself.

He apologized for making making reporters wait so long, but said it wasn't to gather himself after his 12th straight loss.

Analytics doesn't measure human emotions. Losing so many games is hard to overcome.

http://www.beyondverbal.com/

A tech start-up in 2012 as an emotions detector app? A modern day mood ring!

Good then Hue should have no trouble signing elite FA's in the off season.

They did some consulting work for a company that I worked for. It is kind of scary stuff. They teach you how you can pick up on cues and determine which emotional type the person that you are talking to is. Their AI can detect this automatically on a phone call and flash this on the worker's screen. You can use this to calm down an angry customer or sell more to a happy one. Welcome to the matrix.

wouldn't it be interesting if RGIII runs the rest of the year and gets four straight wins...would that mean we forgo drafting a QB in the early rounds? and start picking BPA...can't miss, we need someone every where.

I hope not. He's not reliable.

I try not to think things like this because, in my opinion, it's like holding a Powerball ticket thinking about what you will do if you win. It's seriously so unlikely to happen that it's a waste of time to even speculate.

I think that, because of RGIII's injury history, the front office needs to take a QB in an early round regardless of what RGIII does or doesn't do the rest of the year. As a fan, the only reason I can accept for NOT taking a QB early is if they acquire a young, starting-caliber QB via trade before the draft.

It would very Browns of us for RG3 to win two games, we end up picking 3rd, and miss out on Garrett and Alan.

Idk bro...I am thinking the niners are picking QB this coming draft. which would leave either Garrett or Allan if the RGIII wins two games.

RGIII is "auditioning for next season"? Geez, these guys are clueless....

Some where some how we need a viable QB.

This guy hasn't shown the ability to read the D's, nor get the ball out quickly...not to mention his fragility.

What else do they need to evaluate?

sigh....

Go Raiders led by a nuclues of SBB's [Shoulda Been Browns (SBB) but Farmer was a douchebag!]

I'm guessing he'll still play more, but has everyone seen enough of RG3 yet or no? He's just not lookin' good... I dunno, maybe our receivers can't get open sometimes?

(sighs)

I think RG3 STINKS ... but yesterday was his 1st game back and in bad weather ...

Can we give him at least a week to shake off the rust?

Judging him off yesterday just isn't fair ...

I agree...it's painful to watch at times...but we MUST figure out IF he can be the guy. I wouldn't personally have tried that particular reclamation project...but we did and this far in we have to let it play out. I won't likely change my mind on that this year unless he gets hurt again.

by the same token, it isn't entirely unfair, either.

It's not like RG3 just got here. He's been here almost 9 months now and has had plenty of time to learn and know the offense. I'm also thinking that he didn't just start practicing, or being able to attend practices, this past week.

So, yeah, there's some rust, but he wasn't even in PreSeason form. A concussed Kessler would have outplayed him, and I'm betting that had Hogan been active, he would have, as well.... or, at least, wouldn't have been any worse.

The dude is junk.

As long as I don't have to watch Josh McCown stand there and take sacks, I'm ok.

I think you have to roll with RG3 for the following reasons:

1. Kessler is already damaged goods. He's shell shocked. I think his only chance at rehabilitation is to stop playing this year, take the off season to reflect, and see if he can come back more settled down. The guy is simply afraid to throw the ball per the plays that are called. It is incredibly frustrating to watch. I couldn't imagine being his coach.

2. RG3 looked just like Kessler in that he was afraid to throw the ball yesterday. I don't remember that being the case game 1 so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Let him finish the season. Kessler has more of a future here than RG3, IMO. Don't ruin Kessler. Let RG3 take the hits. Maybe he'll surprise. I don't think it's likely, but I really feel the Browns, as a team and organization, have nothing to gain by trotting Kessler out there any more this year. He'll just get damaged more. The Browns need to see if RG3 has a future here or not.

'Jimmy Garoppolo trade to the Browns...rumor'

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.ph...mor#Post1206468

Giving up on Rg3 after 1.5 games. nice.