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Excellent post Peen.
The question shouldn't be is the QB a pocket passer, it should be can the QB read the field, make progressions, and take care of the football while doing so. That should be the #1 priority.
Can the guy make reads and keep his eyes down the field while running is key.
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They can keep hoping HS coaches start to change their views, but the reality is the KIDS don't want to be pocket passers anymore. They want to roll out with run/read options, run for a few TD's and Pass for a few TD's.
I said this maybe near 10 years ago. It isn't going to change at the HS and college level. The NFL is going to have to change. Heck, all the young up and commer coaches are, or will be former HS spread option coaches. At some point soon enough, NFL owners won't be able to hire a coach who knows a "pro" set O.
It's a slow death, but the Pro-Set is dead. Soon, you won't even have coaches who can coach it.
The spread formation is being used with great effectiveness with pocket passing QBs and has been for a number of years.
The role of the college QB in the spread formation will not be the same when that QB reaches the NFL because simply put, a QBs arm is much more valuable than his legs.
In the NFL they already spread the field and run an up-tempo offense (at times), but NFL QBs will not be exposed to the same risks that HS and college spread offense QBs are today.
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Hawaii ran the spread with 5'10" Timmy Chang and he threw for 5000 yards.
You don't have to run the QB to run a "Spread"
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They can keep hoping HS coaches start to change their views, but the reality is the KIDS don't want to be pocket passers anymore. They want to roll out with run/read options, run for a few TD's and Pass for a few TD's.
I said this maybe near 10 years ago. It isn't going to change at the HS and college level. The NFL is going to have to change. Heck, all the young up and commer coaches are, or will be former HS spread option coaches. At some point soon enough, NFL owners won't be able to hire a coach who knows a "pro" set O.
It's a slow death, but the Pro-Set is dead. Soon, you won't even have coaches who can coach it.
The spread formation is being used with great effectiveness with pocket passing QBs and has been for a number of years.
The role of the college QB in the spread formation will not be the same when that QB reaches the NFL because simply put, a QBs arm is much more valuable than his legs.
In the NFL they already spread the field and run an up-tempo offense (at times), but NFL QBs will not be exposed to the same risks that HS and college spread offense QBs are today. Football players risk injury every time they step on the field. I really don't think there is a substantial difference between pocket and dual threat QBs as far as injury rate, and if there is it is partially attributable to "running QBs" trying to stick in the pocket. Peyton Manning got hurt in the pocket, Brady in the pocket, Drew Brees, Drew Bledsoe, etc. It's a violent game, and players get hurt.
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Grimm...so how many dual threat QBs are starting in the NFL?
With pocket passing QBs playing into the late 30s and into their 40s, why would NFL teams put their QBs at more risks as a dual threat QB?
Just one look at the Browns present starting QB and those advocating for dual threat QBs should realize why it's a bad idea.
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