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Dude, you bully mac all the time. You constantly try to get others to join in w/your bullying attempts. Neither mac or I are intimidated by your punkish bullying attempts because you are are as transparent as glass.

You can turn the conversation around as much as you like, but the Browns lost several productive free agents and are now 0 and 14. But yeah, it's my fault. Freaking clueless.............

Mac an yourself share the same BS agenda and all I do is call you out on it.

They lost several free agents by design. Most of them because of age. The same thing happened in the article that I posted about Oakland.

To complain about them losing because of losing those guys is just not understanding what a rebuilding process is.

i have a feeling rg5 and mcclown are just stop gaps for kessler to learn from. i doubt we`d get anyone to really compete unless we go top 10 qb.

You are the one w/the BS agenda. You lash out at anyone who doesn't agree w/you and try to get others to join in. This plan is nowhere close to what Oakland did. You are just spreading more BS! Worry about your own self rather than what others think.

You need therapy.

Haha, seriously?

lmao

Great football thread.

Geesh.

I want FA QB Mike Glennon. He's never had much of a shot in the NFL. He's a big guy with plenty of tools. Has the arm to play in the AFC North, hasn't been beaten up too bad. Spent years learning in Tampa under that same O-Coordinator/HC that helped progress Winston so much.

He's gotta be better than what we have. McCown is no longer a starter, no way around that. RG3 just doesn't seem to be working out, and Kessler has some growing to do.

I'd honestly rather let Kessler be the starter next year and see how he devops if we cant find a great QB to draft. I probably trade josh and and rg3 away or hire Josh on as a QB coach and have him retire from playing for his own safety

Hey, we could always go after Osweiler. Seems like a perfect fit here in loserville. We won't pay to keep the only talent we have, but they'd give him 10MM a year.

I dunno about Kessler being the starter. I think he needs time to work toward it. He could end up being it, but to throw next season on him with no backup plan is a bit much.


I do agree with dumping RG3. At least if he keeps on performing the same. And also with Josh. Maybe not QB Coach, but some sort of role on the staff. Do most NFL QB Coaches come in right after their careers and be "The QB Coach"? Might make more sense to make him an assistant QB Coach or something and let him "earn" the title or something.

If RG3 he suddenly played the last two games better, how smart would it be to keep a QB who has been injured the major part of the season, with an injury plagued career who looked terrible accept for his last two games?

I say it's too late for RG3 no matter what his last two games look like. that's not enough evidence to risk keeping him on.

But the Fat Lady is not singing yet, Pit...

Thats why you have back up QB's.

I wouldn't get your hopes up about Free Agency..

NO ONE is going to want to come play for an 0-16 team...not anyone who cares about their football career...if they come here, and no matter their age, it will likely be their last stop in the NFL....

Collins probably can't wait to get out here....the guy will take less money elsewhere then to stay in this trash heap Jimmy put together.

the fact our front office is even considering putting the Franchise tag on Pryor is just sickening...the guy is an average WR at best....I guess average looks like Pro Bowl when everything else around you us absolute utter garbage.

Where have you seen this?

I agree with you, I don't want them to franchise tag Pryor if it's a decision between him and Collins. I want Pryor to stay but I don't consider him a #1 WR, thus not worth the $15MM tag price.

I just have not read anything saying where the Browns are considering tagging him. All I've seen is they want to re-sign him....and Collins.

Wasn't Detroit 0-16 and they have FA's coming their, if you offer players enough they will come. remember their agents want the $$$$$$

versatile, you say our fo lost several free agents and now we are 0-14. clearly a causal relationship. honest question here. are we 0-14 because we lost 3-4 free agents this year or because our first round draft picks from 2010 thru 2014 ( five years, seven first round picks) are contributing virtually nothing to this team ( joe haden plays the other six do not. for me personally, i would weight our failed first round picks as the primary cause of our suckiness, and those picks were made by previous administrations, all football guys by the way. your thoughts please.

Nah, I'll pass. I get the feeling you aren't interested in my opinion. Besides, I am not sure even what you are asking/implying.

if i weren't interested in your opinion i would not have asked for it. and i did not "imply" anything. i said that imho that those who place our plight at the feet of the current front office are missing the big picture of why our roster is in such sorry shape. just wanted your opinion about that but you clearly are not interested.

If a person claims they are on a diet, how can they ever put any food in their mouth?

I don't think the Browns are going to do much in free agency. Not sure why you--and others--think they will?????

Agreed. I think we'll want to find a QB and then invest heavily in FA during that 4/5 year period. I doubt we do much until then.

I think that as long as it won't hurt any comp picks that they will add young value to this team if they see it.

Why?

This is what we did last year. Davis, Bailey, Tuggle, Moore, etc.

My guess is that we sign one semi-big/big free agent and that's it.

The thing with the compensatory theory is that we don't have anyone who another team is going to sign to a big enough contract to get us a pick. Jamie Collins and Terrelle Pryor are the only ones and I'd bet at least one of them will be back next year.

Because the plan is to rebuild. They stood to lose comp picks last year, so they stayed away from FA. If they see young talent that gives them value, they'll take it. Will they pay an overpriced aging vet? No. But if they see a younger player that they value, why not?

Absolutely spot on.

It's why I think we will try harder to resign our guys. It'd be silly to let Collins walk. I think Pryor is more likely to leave.

Hope you are right, but from what I have heard.............they are building through the draft and are not going to use free agency much, unless it is lower tier guys like Davis.

I think we will go after a big name right tackle / guard, but that's it.

Yep. If we can turn Pryor into a 3rd round comp pick... Well, it'd give me a lot of reservations about signing FA's.

A guard is the last thing we need. I hope we get a center or RT in free agency, but I doubt it will be a big name.

I think this team is cheap.

Here's what I'd like to see the FO do:
Franchise tag Jaimie Collins.
Pay Terrell Pryor a "70% of the best deal out there" deal for a WR.
Draft Allen first, then if there's no trade movement, Jamal Adams, if he's there. If he's not, then the best available player on the board. We don't have any position right now that we can't upgrade.
Second rounders should be BPA, sprinkled with a bit of need. O-lin,D-line, wherever. A stud safety would be good. By the end of the season, we'll know what Cam Irving is about, allowing us to take a center if Austen Reiter and or Greco doesn't heal completely.

The only "big name" guy that I see available is Luke Joeckel and he is not very good.

There are definitely more guards available than tackles. Are you thinking sign a guard and move Greco to center?

I actually get no pleasure out of stomping on the Browns or our fans....I just want to see them win like everyone else does.

I don't think the people we have in place are the right people, and if they blow this draft is going to set us back a very very very long time....the thought of Hue, Depodesa, and Sashi with those draft picks frightens me...

As for Pryor, he is an average WR...he isn't Josh Gordon type of talent, he isn't a game changing WR...he would be a #3 or a #4 receiver on most other teams in the league....not saying Pryor don't belong on the team, i'd love to keep him for the right price...but #1 receiver money or tag money isn't the right money....we could get comparable talent out of the 2nd and 3rd rds of the draft if we draft correctly...no need ti overspend here....

As for Collins, yes i'd probably overspend a bit if it meant we could keep him. I think he a solid talent, and a guy that could be part of our defense moving forward...and i may pay a bit more to keep him if he is willing to stay, but no way i overpay for Pryor...

They were talking about it on ESPN radio the otherday on my way home from work....i'd say its just rumor, but you never know these days...i hope they don't