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No, no, no. Trump and Putin both want to be sure that each side has enough viable Nukes to keep the policy of MAD in place. MAD has kept us all alive for all of my lifetime. It works!

We have 7 thousand nukes, 40.

At what point is enough, enough?

We should be moving toward no nukes, as we have bombs more than capable of doing the jobs, and other tactics of warfare.

But ok. Fine, we have nukes. But now we need to increase the amount?

Man that's horse crap. And you and others call yourself a Christians?

Man, not god, has the ability to now completely wipe out this planet.

And for what? Bragging rights? Territory disputes? Somebody slept with the wrong chick?

If that's you and others ideal world, then I have zero in common with you, or hell, much of anybody on this board.

I guess that's why I ride solo dolo.

Better stay away from CHS since he's a self-proclaimed commie.

I keeps an arms length. CHS's comments lately makes him way too far left for me.

7 thousand nukes in a 62 year old untested system!
If for one minute we blink and find out our nukes won't go where they are supposed to, Putin could Annihilate us and claim the world for himself.

Wake up already, the only reason you are alive to point a finger at everyone else is because MAD has prevented Nuclear War for like 60 years!

And that's the fear mongering I've come to expect on this board.

Funny. One breath you're defending and praising Putin, the next you're scared of him.

Honestly, some of y'all really need to grow a pair. Stop fence riding.

Russia has the most untested nuclear system in the world. It's the second oldest and they've never even launched one!

I am beginning to see Diam's point about you.

:'(

So we should attack them now? Take em out and claim the world as our own?
No, cuz we ain't that sure he still can't respond in kind!

it must be painful to try to be this dumb. How are you able to troll so consistently with no care for truth?

Must be reading too many op-eds

Not surprising. I often think you two are actually the same person.

Ever since Bernie lost, you been going hard in the paint. I don't say anything cause I still think you're my boy, but I haven't rode with some of your comments.

I don't trip because it probably works both ways. I've gone off the reservation more than enough times to count

We're boys till the end. I was just messing around. I didn't take your comment hard.

I've always been a communist, I saw the shortcomings of socialism years ago... But Bernie brought a lot of leftist ideas to political discourse in America. So I finally had a platform to speak my mind on here.

You need to chill with that commie stuff.

Which is why it's mind boggling that the actual commie on the board doesn't defend Russia, an ex-commie turned commie-by-association country, yet the freedom loving, Christian loving, fear mongering conservatives do nothing but stand by Putin as if he's our actual president.

One day, Swish, we'll have to smoke a blunt and talk about politics where 3rd parties can't interject any idea that pops into their head. Now, I don't want to change your mind, but I do want you to see where I'm coming from.

We probably shouldn't meet up.

Not that I don't want to, but if we did, 40 or Diam would probably call immigration on us.

I saw you posted that a while back.

I dunno if I would agree with that. Maybe you could get away with saying Russia wasn't a pure communist nation, but IMO, it definitely wasn't just socialism.

Russia was North Korea, but with actual money to pursue territorial dominance, at least for a while anyway.

Hmmm part turkish, part african american, and now part Indian. No wonder your smokin that peace pipe.

I get it now. You and Swish do not understand the strategy behind MAD. We older guys have lived it all our lives and it works. You can call me dumb all you want but the mirror would serve you well.

How can we do that if, as you say, we are the same person?
Why do you think they call it dope?

you tell me, KGB.

CLUE <--------------------------------------------->YOU

I think old age is making you senile. You're the one who is arguing MAD isn't a strategy anymore because you read an op-ed piece from the MSM.

No, I am saying that MAD is a strategy that has served us well for like 60 years and Trump, Putin, the article from the WSJ and others say it could be no longer viable within the next decade due to both Russia's and our Nuke system being outdated and broken.

Funny thing. Earlier in the thread I actually gave Trump credit for the idea of modernizing and using more modern deployment methods for our nukes.

Come to find out Obama has already done it! Sounds like Trump didn't even know that. I'll give Obama the same credit I gave to Trump for spouting off about something Obama already did.

So, no conservatives want to bring up the sanctions that got dropped on Russia, and the GOP calling for even more to be done?

I guess that would mean that y'all would have to admit that Putin was involved. I know casting comrade Putin in a bad light is a no no for you guys.

But seems like your republican leadership agrees with the intelligence community.

But they are making it up, right? Putin would never do something like this...

What hack are you referring to? There was no hack that I've heard of, only the DNC responding to phishing emails and gave up their passwords, they were morons.

The anti-semite in chief just wanted to spank Russia on his way out the door but has no proof or he would hit them with financial sanctions. Russia is just laughing at them. It's embarrassing. What an idiot.


This is from that lefty Solon site.


Down the rabbit hole: Government’s first report on Russian hack is woefully inadequate
Supposed FBI/DHS hack analysis is old, muddled info, plus nine pages of security tips. We need more than this


Down the rabbit hole: Government's first report on Russian hack is woefully inadequate

In conjunction with the various sanctions President Obama unveiled Thursday against the Russian government in response to that nation’s alleged hacking of Democratic Party servers, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security released a report that supposedly provides evidence pointing to the Russian Federation as responsible for the cyber-attacks.

But the document, termed a “Joint Analysis Report” (JAR), contains nothing of substance pointing to Russia as responsible for any of the attacks and will do little or nothing to assuage public doubts about who conducted the security breaches.

Furthermore, the analysis appears to be a re-release of an earlier report that was distributed confidentially in October, and contains no newer information. A related webpage set up by a DHS agency to accompany the Thursday release mentions that the report was originally distributed on Oct. 7.

The 13-page JAR appears to be more of an advisory for government server administrators than anything else. Private-sector reports about the DNC-Clinton hacks have been much more thorough and informative.

Security academic researcher Thomas Rid, a professor at the University of London who has written extensively on evidence indicating Russian involvement in the DNC hacks, criticized the released document on Twitter, saying that the U.S. had “erred on the side of caution today and did not release the best evidence they have.”

He further added: “It would’ve helped, really, to publish a thorough, precise, historically informed and technically honest attribution report in plain English.”

That simply is not what the DHS-FBI document is. Instead, after a brief summary, the report provides a general description of what happened in attacks, saying only that they targeted “a U.S. political party” and attributing them to two separate organizations within the Russian intelligence apparatus. Those groups are termed “APT28” and “APT29.”

The second section of the report is a description of one of the attackers’ methods, a common and unsophisticated practice that has been in use among “black hat” hackers for more than a decade. The technique, called “spearphishing” by the security industry, is a technique whereby an email is sent to a target claiming to be from a legitimate source that actually contains a virus-infected file or a link to a fraudulent website designed to steal passwords.

Apparently there was a hack. Seeing as even your conservative leadership supports and wants more sanctions against Russia.

Seeing as our intelligence community says there was.

But I get it. Putin over America.

Swish - the u.s. gets hacked all the time. The u.s. hacks other countries all the time.

Why is it that this apparent hack makes anyone that didn't support Hillary a "Putin lover"?

Kids get raped all the time. What's the big deal?

Yeah, that's the same.

The concept certainly is.

Because it happens all the time means it shouldn't be a big deal?

So, using your logic, kids get raped all the time, you live in and are a citizen of this country where it happens, so there fore you support child rape.

See how ridiculous that sounds?

Why, as a non hillary supporter, am I suddenly a putin lover?

Someone in this thread made a comment about trump supporters getting or needing knee pads because they love putin so much. REALLY???

Where does this come from?

How far are you willing to go with false rhetoric?

Your logic is off.

Kids get raped all the time. I donate to shelters and programs to help children. I didn't vote for policies that encourage the rape of children, or anything for that matter.

Your logic only works if I'm a trump supporter. I'm not. However, my logic applies to you, because you defend trump and Putin all the time.

That's solid logic on my part.

It's not false rhetoric.

Here's the facts:

Bipartisan support for sanctions against Russia. Fact.

Republican leadership asking that morre get done against Russia. Fact.

The intelligence community, including the FBI, led by a republican, said that Russia tried to interfere with our elections. Fact.

Trump and his supporters (you) are the only ones defending Russia. Fact.

So what false rhetoric? I said nothing but the truth.

As always.

And spare me the "I didn't vote for him".

You support and defend him all the time. Just like now. Don't spin.

If you got it, you'd be conservative.

Nope. I get it cause I'm liberal.

Eat this vegan ice cream.

Nah, it isn't. The gist of your argument is "if you voted for trump, you support putin/love putin." And that's false.
Good for you. I donate also. How did I vote for policies that "encourage" the rape of children? Please, answer that question. I want to know HOW I support the rape of children.

See, not a single person in their right mind would even insinuate that, let alone state it as fact concerning all trump supporters.



No, it's you daydreaming. Please, show me a single post of mine where I support, or supported, Putin. Please.

You project your baseless thoughts/feelings on others, and expect them to be taken as fact.



How am I defending Russia? I don't get it.
No, you extrapolated the truth you want out of nothingness.

Where, or when, did I say that?

I voted for Trump. I may have said, during the primaries, that I wasn't voting for trump.....but when he became the r candidate, I am pretty sure I never said "I didn't vote for him."



Yes, I voted for Trump, and I defend Trump when people make made up lies about him.

I'm willing to give him a chance, just as I was willing to give O a chance, and each president before.

Swish, Tulsa said something tongue in cheek that made me laugh. However, it has me wondering. Fox News and posters on here talk about Democratic mayors ruining inner cities.

Why does nobody talk about red states like Tennessee, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Mississippi being the poorest states in the entire country?

Everything I said was straight facts.

You're defending trump over something he's completely wrong about. But good job, you got played and you're celebrating it.

The same reason why they don't bring up the fact that most of those democratic mayors are overseen by republican governors.

Or the same reason they don't ever bring up the biggest train wreck of them all: Kansas. All republican, all conservative, and their policies have completely wrecked the state.