We are getting closer and closer to autonomous driving as this technology improves. I love technology, as stuff like this gets better and as we improve the way drones work we will be looking at millions of lives saved.
Yea Tesla is definitely leading the future of automobiles.
i think what helps is that their cars are actually gorgeous to look at.
part of the reason it took a while for hybrids and electric cars to take on is because they are so freaking ugly.
and a lot of guys wouldn't be caught dead in a Prius. you couldn't pay me to drive that crap.
but a Tesla? nevermind the autopilot ability, dude those joints can pull 0-60 in under 3 seconds, and they look amazing.
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This is my least favorite thing about the future. It's already bad enough that you can hardly find manual transmissions anymore. Now I have to get a car that drives me places?
i love manuals too, but the reality is that performance-wise, Auto's are better.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i love manuals too, but the reality is that performance-wise, Auto's are better.
I've seen this before. Let me just say....I've have yet to meet ANY Auto that could even come close to a manual. Think about it. ALot better gas mileage no matter how many gears you got in auto, all that constant shifting is hard on the trans., not to mention takes more gas. Like I said, I have yet to meet any Auto that I can't overtake with a Manual.
My car is a 5 speed, 212K miles on it. I'm still running the original Brakes, Clutch and battery. I don't think an Auto can touch that. Now I will say that I think the new 6 - 8 spped auto trans. are neat, they work to hard to provide very little in the way of real gas mileage. And you know it has to wear the Trans down. Not to mention the cost is so much more than a manual.
I spent 13k on a almost new car, VS. 25k to 30k for a newer 6-8 speed? Come on.
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I used to autocross race. Only a noob would try to race an auto. You need to control when a car shifts. Manual is hands down the best for driving performance.
But when it comes to performance, auto's eat manuals.
I've driven stick all my life bro, but the reality is that these new autos with paddle shifts are absolutely shredding manuals. It's why the big guys who make high end luxury, sports and super cars are paddle shift auto's.
Here's some of the biggest gear heads talking about it
The quarter mile numbers, and 0-60 isn't even fair.
Manuals is a dead technology. These autos are coming out stock busting sticks.
Hell bro, even entry level sport cars are killing it. Give me an paddle shift camero SS and I'm eating whatever manual you got.
Hell, I don't even have to paddle shift. I can bust you letting the car shift by itself.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Okay, since you like to run and hide, I'll say that I have had this "07 Yaris since it was a pup. I bought it in June 08 and it was made in July of '07. Less than a year old, it had 4250 miles on it and the dealer told me the guy traded it in on a Ford Explorer because he was starting a Family. The only thing that I've had done since I've owned it is....My mech. replaced both hubs in the front wheels because he changed the wrong one the first time Both struts in the back were replaced when a fellow worker said it looked like a basketball was going down the road, and my wheel was bouncing like crazy.
I don't know what to tell you, thats the only thing I've had done and I doubt the guy before me had anything done with no more miles on it than that. Everythings original, including a 9 year old battery. Also a Mech friend told me that was impossible, batteries don't last that long, until he told me never mind that he had one in a truck that was almost 9 yrs. old. Hey things last when you take care of them.
Dawginit since Jan. 24, 2000 Member #180 You can't fix yesterday but you can learn for tomorrow #GMSTRONG
I want to do it as a Cleveland Brown because that's who I am.”
Wow, I guess the Tech is passing me by. Course cost is a major thing for me. Way cheaper for manual.
Yea it's still way cheaper to maintain and repair munuals.
Bro my Honda Civic back in the day had so many miles on it. But man you could buy the parts and not worry about making life decisions at the cashier desk.
Yea bro the tech is evolving so fast. Bro, some of those Telsa models can get you 0-60 in under 3 secs, and it's all electric, all auto.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
And candy, getting back to on topic, I guess that's the biggest thing. I'm a purest when it comes to cars.
The thought of having full auto is....I dunno sometimes I feel tech hinders us too much.
Even now, getting your license is considered something of a right of passage.
That's gone when the world starts having cars like I, Robot.
And does it make us safer? In the early era, sure.
But then autopilot is attached to a grid. How susceptible will we be to hacks that cause massive car accidents?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
And candy, getting back to on topic, I guess that's the biggest thing. I'm a purest when it comes to cars.
The thought of having full auto is....I dunno sometimes I feel tech hinders us too much.
Even now, getting your license is considered something of a right of passage.
That's gone when the world starts having cars like I, Robot.
And does it make us safer? In the early era, sure.
But then autopilot is attached to a grid. How susceptible will we be to hacks that cause massive car accidents?
Big question: If, IF most cars become autopilot, who pays the insurance for said car? Why would I have to pay insurance? Shouldn't the manufacturer pay?
And candy, getting back to on topic, I guess that's the biggest thing. I'm a purest when it comes to cars.
The thought of having full auto is....I dunno sometimes I feel tech hinders us too much.
Even now, getting your license is considered something of a right of passage.
That's gone when the world starts having cars like I, Robot.
And does it make us safer? In the early era, sure.
But then autopilot is attached to a grid. How susceptible will we be to hacks that cause massive car accidents?
Big question: If, IF most cars become autopilot, who pays the insurance for said car? Why would I have to pay insurance? Shouldn't the manufacturer pay?
Why? It's still your decision to buy the product or not.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I choose to by a car that needs no driver. And the car malfunctions. How is that my fault?
That's called a warranty. We already have those.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I choose to by a car that needs no driver. And the car malfunctions. How is that my fault?
That's called a warranty. We already have those.
And the car warranty covers the damages the car causes under auto pilot?
Doesn't a warranty cover defective parts? If the auto pilot malfunctions, then it's defective, and thus covered.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Since there is a mode where you can drive it, then it's your choice to go auto and you assume all liability.
If the passenger airbag throws out metal shards killing the passenger, it is the manufactures fault. They are liable.
If they sell you a defective self driving car, they should be liable if it fails, not Arch.
Haha, yeah wake me when that happens.
If the potential purchaser doesn't want the responsibility then they shouldn't buy the car in the first place. The seller, once sold, can't also be responsible for human actions or decisions after it leaves the lot. It will be the buyers responsibility, take it to the bank.
I don't doubt your last statement. I'm just wondering why it would be that way.
As it stands right now, some want owners of a gun to be held responsible for any crime committed with that gun, even though it was stolen in the first place.
Yet we don't have anyone saying "if your car is stolen and the guy that stole it hits someone" that the lawful owner should be held accountable.
If I buy a microwave, have it installed by a certified electrician, and the thing blows up, the manufacturer is responsible, right?
If a buy a car that I'm told will drive itself, and it causes an accident, why would I be held accountable? I didn't cause the accident, the car did.
(and for the record, I won't be buying a self driving car.)
Simply put, they will have you sign a waiver assuming responsibility or you won't buy the car. The choice will be yours. People will sign it and buy it.
I'm not sure they will ever remove the option for the consumer to take control.
I could see something along the lines of it being required to be in autopilot on the highway, and the option to manually drive on the streets.
Also, since you still set the speed of the vehicle, it makes sense to sitll pay insurance because of that.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Speaking of that, in a couple of our vehicles the passenger airbag was "activated" based on the occupant of the front passenger.
My wife didn't/doesn't weigh enough to turn it on.
Better buy some ankle weights for the car.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I'm not sure they will ever remove the option for the consumer to take control.
I could see something along the lines of it being required to be in autopilot on the highway, and the option to manually drive on the streets.
Also, since you still set the speed of the vehicle, it makes sense to sitll pay insurance because of that.
My original post on this was just a "poser" question.
I don't know much about the auto pilot thing. So, YOU set the speed? What about all the sensors and what not.....where do they come in if YOU (not you, swish) set the speed?
This reminds me of legalizing pot. Pot stays in your system for, what, some 30 days? How do the cops test for it if you're in an accident? What level is "ok", and what level is not okay?
You get high tonight, but have an accident 2 days later, but you test over some limit. Were you high? Or was it just the residual left in your system?
Technology. A wonderful thing.....but there are back questions/issues that haven't been answered.
Both struts in the back were replaced when a fellow worker said it looked like a basketball was going down the road, and my wheel was bouncing like crazy.