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Hey guys, didn't see this anywhere and didn't wanna put it in the Kosar Quinn vs Frye Thread because that thing is being run into the ground, lol. It's a nice read, at least it makes you feel better.

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Quinn adjusting to faster game
Jeff Walcoff, Staff Writer
06.25.2007
His first experience practicing with the veterans wasn't always pretty, but Browns rookie quarterback Brady Quinn said he is now beginning to settle in and feel more comfortable. The results would tend to support those sentiments.

During the team's first Organized Team Activities practice in late May, Quinn completed nearly as many passes to the defense as he did his own receivers.

In sizing up the team's quarterback situation, head coach Romeo Crennel said, "The rookie is still the rookie."

But during the ensuing weeks and the Browns' full-squad minicamp,Quinn looked far sharper than he did at his first OTA session. The interceptions are fewer and he's beginning to find and hit open receivers more and more often.

Quinn admitted that when he first arrived things were moving noticeably faster on the practice field than he had ever seen before.

"The first week I was probably sitting back thinking, 'Man this is much different than college ball, even at the highest level,'" Quinn, who started for three-plus years at Notre Dame, said.

A faster game means the need for quicker decision making and quicker execution.

Quinn said one of the most alarming differences he noticed between his college experience and practices with the Browns so far is the noticeably smaller timeframe available to hit open receivers.

"The windows open and close and you have to be ready to throw," he said. "That's probably the biggest difference between college and the NFL that I've learned so far. Right now, it's understanding the speed of the game and getting used to hitting those windows when they're there, because they don't come very often."

Further to Quinn's credit, he's not the only quarterback hurrying to learn and adjust to the team's new offense under coordinator Rob Chudzinski.

Players from all positions have commented frequently to media during the past few weeks about the intense studying the Toledo, Ohio native's new offense is demanding from them. It's especially rough on the quarterbacks, who are expected to know more about what's going on than any other player on the field.

It accounts for many of the mistakes by the offense made against the Browns defense, who is now entering its third season in the same system.

"A lot of guys are digesting the system and things are starting to flow much more naturally for our team," Quinn said. "Things are coming along. We still have a ways to go but things are coming along well."

"I've been just trying to work hard, keep going over reads, progressions -- knowing it like the back of my hand and trying to know it like a guy who has been here three, four, or five years."

While the progression is slow, Quinn said things are improving for everyone, and there's plenty of time to fine tune before the regular season in September. After all, there's still training camp and four preseason games to go before things start to matter.

On top of learning a new offense and adjusting to the NFL level, Quinn also is in the midst of a battle for the team's starting quarterback role.

Quinn, Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson are entrenched in a completion that's bound to continue well into training camp.

Anderson and Frye are in their own competition while trying to stave off the fast-approaching rookie.

"It's a competitive situation for all of us but we're using each other to try to motivate ourselves," Quinn said. "It's been good for us."

Frye and Anderson have been sharing time with the first unit during practices thus far. Quinn has mostly traded off with Ken Dorsey for the third slot. Each quarterback, however, is receiving equal reps.

While head coach Romeo Crennel said that Frye and Anderson have a "leg up" on Quinn to this point, it's not stopping Quinn from striving for the starting spot come Sept. 9 vs. the Steelers.

Asked if he's striving for the starting role for Week One, Quinn said, "Without a doubt. Who doesn't? Ask any one of these guys and they'll say they do.

"That's our dream. That's my dream. I grew up a Cleveland Browns fan. I understand the rivalry between Cleveland and Pittsburgh and my ultimate goal is being there."


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I heard so many positives about Quinn when we drafted him, so when he began OTA's with trouble I was worried. Someone said the case was that the media just recently was allowed to go and guys generally didn't look during these practices. So that made me feel better.

But anyway, it's good to hear that Quinn is coming along and picking up the NFL. I hope we can work out a good deal and get him in on time so we can try and fix some of his mechanics issues that i hear about as well as getting him acclamated to the NFL.

I don't want Quinn against the Steelers Week 1 no matter what. Want him to sit the pine for at least the first half of the season. There's no reason to put him at risk for bad habbits which so many rookie QBs seem to develop. I don't really care if he's ready or not, I would like his rookie year to be as beneficial for him as possible and only QBing half a season and getting his feet wet before he jumps in just seems to make the most sense to me

I didnt expect Quinn to be Brady or Manning right away.. He has to learn.. all QB's have to learn..

He will get his shot.. probably not this season, but at some point.. unless there is an injury or something..

I may not be remembering correctly, but I don't think Brady was Brady right away ... (I'm guessing you mean Tom, not Quinn)

If Quinn plays this year 3 things have to happen. 1 he has to be in camp by the time the vets get in. rookie camp would be better but if he makes it by the time the vets show he still has a shot.

Next he has to blow away the competition. If it is close he wont start. Romeo wont play a rook unless he blows away the competition.

Last the Browns are going to have to show that they can protect the rook. Not just the OL but the running game and the defense.

To be honest I hope he holds out.

I do not want to see him on the field this year.

Do you even remeber Tim Couch?

Weren't you like 9?

I'm one in Fryes corner, but mostly I want the players who give us the best chance to win on the field, if there rookies and ones Qiunn than so be it, If not than he sits and learns how he can be the one who gives us the best chance to win...I just wanna Win, rookie or veteran....


we Browns fans deserve to win, we deserve a winning season....

If we're losing early and mid-season and QB is the ONLY position we were sucking at, I'd say go ahead, give Quinn a shot.

How did this turn into a Couch thread Geez.

Anyway, I only want to see Quinn on the field if he's the best we have and even then, I'd rather see someone else out there until the rest of the O starts to gell better..

I could be wrong here, but I get the impression that these guys,, all of them on O, are struggling to understand Chuds Offense. I know it will most likely get better as they play together longer, but still, I wonder how many games into the season it will be before these guys are at a point when they just run the plays without thinking about it.

Death, Taxes, Couch Threads....

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I wonder how many games into the season it will be before these guys are at a point when they just run the plays without thinking about it.

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My guess is 6 games.

Death, Taxes and Couch Threads,,, yup, that's about right

.. " The Browns are becoming all about excuses, and I'm tired of it. " ...

..... Sorry to say , I'm with ya on that one ! .. This is the year we " Start " to turn it around !

I can understand wanting to protect the kid, but it's not going to kill him to get out there and play. Plenty of players have done it and succeeded.

Bottom Line.... if the coaches feel he is ready and that he gives us the best chance to win, then he plays... no two ways about it.

If he does well enough to beat out Frye and Anderson and whatever else we trot out... how is it bad that he gets the playing time that he's earned??

Being a rookie doesn't mean you are some magically fragile child that needs protection.... it just means that you need to get acclimated. And if he is able to beat out the incumbent starter and his backup from a year ago, I would call that acclimated, wouldn't you?

General reply: If he's made such big strides from OTAs to the end of minicamp, then who says that if he gets in on time (or even a few days late), he can't improve to the point that he passes the other QB's?

NFL Live today, both Schlereth and Jaws said the Browns should start Quinn from day one. Both mentioned we now have protection for him and he has the ability to do it.

So, if he proves himself, why not? He won't magically be ruined.

I don't care who starts at QB as long as its the best player.

Quinn will probably end up starting if we can Crennel, if we are out of the playoff race, or if Anderson stinks and then Charlie stinks too when we put them in (which probably goes hand in hand with the first two possiblities). Either way I don't see Quinn not playing in at least 5 games this year, probably more. Young and Leinart pretty much started most of their rookie season's and that worked okay, I think Quinn will be fine by Sept./Oct. once he has been with the team for more than a couple months.

People, people, people.

Brady Quinn has been the 3rd and sometimes 4th best QB during practices. Yes, even Dorsey has looked better than him at times. Quinn is not NFL ready, and I wouldn't be holding my breath on him starting anytime in 2007.

The starter is going to be Anderson or Frye. Quinn's only going to see the field this year if the Browns are 3-10 at one point or due to injuries.

You very well may be right in your guessing, but I believe the discussion was more along the lines of *should* not *will* he.... and IF he steps up, then he SHOULD. IF he does not (as your observation then begins to point to) then he WONT.

You had the right church, but the wrong pew

JMHO

The way Cincy did Palmer was probably the best way to go. Palmer was every bit as NFL ready as people claim Quinn is, but Palmer sat, and learned, then came out in season 2 ready to go. We ruined Couch, and we didn't do Frye any favors by playing them as rookies. Why throw another rookie QB down the tubes?

By the way.... does anyone remember how this time last year we were bragging about having a vastly superior O - Line? A Line sooooo good that Droughns would easily be able to gain 1500 yards behind it, and Charlie would be able to take us to 11 - 5 and a Division Championship... ...

Take a year and see how things shake out. Sit Quinn down, and give the kid a chance to learn... State it up front, and stick with it, just like Cincy did with Palmer. We might end up with a Pro Bowl Quarterback, and not another Tim Couch....

I think you have it half right in that you should look at the other models for success that have been used... but where I feel you go astray is in sticking dogmatically to one that you've chosen and not taking it based on the individual and how he performs, adapts and responds.

I have yet to see a single valid reason to not play him if he shows himself to have earned it.... but that is the big catch. He has to earn it. If he's ready, he starts. If he's not, he sits. It sounds like a RAC quote, but that's probably because most people try to make something way more complicated than it really is.... it really is as simple as stated. It's not rocket surgery

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To be honest I hope he holds out.

I do not want to see him on the field this year.

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I don`t think rac likes to play rookies all that much.......whether he holds out or not....

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If he does well enough to beat out Frye and Anderson and whatever else we trot out... how is it bad that he gets the playing time that he's earned??

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I agree 100%

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I heard so many positives about Quinn when we drafted him, so when he began OTA's with trouble I was worried. Someone said the case was that the media just recently was allowed to go and guys generally didn't look during these practices. So that made me feel better.

But anyway, it's good to hear that Quinn is coming along and picking up the NFL. I hope we can work out a good deal and get him in on time so we can try and fix some of his mechanics issues that i hear about as well as getting him acclamated to the NFL.

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I saw a clayton report on espn the other day. He did a most impressive/most disappointing rookie so far. You guessed it Quinn was the most disappointing. They then showed him in practice. Only 2-3 passes but each one was right on target. Placed perfectly. Made me say "Hummm?" to myself.

Peyton Manning started day 1 on a colts team that had squat on that team then....he is fine....Couch started game 2 and he is out of the NFL...Roethlesberger started early and kicked butt as did Vince(albeit by his legs and leadership and not his arm), Lienart, and Cutler.At least to the point that none of their teams are by any means looking for a nother QB. Palmer sat and he turned out for them. Brady sat for over a year and turned out good. Dan Marino started day 1 and turned out great. matt Hassellbeck sat for years and stunk for a few years before the lights came on. Gannon sat forever, was a journeyman, then was finally good.....

Quaterbacks have sat and did not pan out. QBs have started early and succeeded. the reverse is also true....the point is that tou start the QB either when he is ready or because you have no other choice.There is no magical formula for grooming QB's It all depends on the QB. Start Quinn either when Quinn is ready or because we have no other choice. Throwing him in before he is ready can hurt him....But holding him back can do damage as well.

If Quinn has earned the start for game 1...the Quinn starts.....PERIOD. If he has not earned it...then he doesn't...how much plainer can it be????