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Kansas family’s pet deer shot by game warden

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JANUARY 4, 2017 7:38 PM

BY MICHAEL PEARCE
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A western Kansas family is angry that game wardens killed a deer that had been their pet for 22 months and “was like one of the family.” Kim Mcgaughey said the deer would butt its head on the door to be let inside the house, go on walks with the family, snuggle with people and play with her grandson and dogs.

“She was a very much a big pet. There was no reason for her to be killed,” said Mcgaughey, of rural Ulysses.

“Her being domesticated was her own doing,” Mcgaughey said. “She chose to stay. I never kept her from going away and being with other deer.”

It is illegal to keep a wild animal as a pet in Kansas. State wildlife officials say something had to be done about the 2-year-old mule deer.

At least two people have been killed in Kansas by pet deer, according to the Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks and Tourism. The department said it was trying to protect people from being physically injured by the deer, and eliminate the possibility of disease being passed to humans, livestock and other deer.

“In these cases our officers have to decide what options there are. That might be to relocate the animal, release it back into the wild or take it to some kind of rehab facility,” said Mark Rankin, law enforcement assistant director for the wildlife department. “Unfortunately once they’ve become imprinted on people, (euthanasia) is almost always the final outcome. Our officers on the scene felt (shooting the deer) was about their only option.”

Mcgaughey plans to speak at a Kansas Wildlife, Parks and Commission meeting Thursday in Emporia.

Robin Jennison, the Wildlife and Parks secretary, said he’s confident the game wardens acted within their authority, but would like the agency to reexamine its policy on euthanizing wildlife.

“All of our people have a real heart for wildlife. I can’t imagine any of our employees enjoying something like this,” Jennison said. “These things are never easy, but I think we really need to come up with policy that better handles these kinds of things.”

Debate

The shooting has drawn debate within the state’s wildlife community. Some say it’s important that wildlife not be kept as pets. Others say it can be beneficial to the animal and, more importantly, to humans interested in wildlife.

Jim Mason, director of the Great Plains Nature Center in Wichita, said such laws are often made to protect wildlife from people who don’t know how to care for an animal. All too often, he said, young animals have been taken by well-meaning people not knowing they were still being cared for by the natural mothers.

He said it’s possible an animal as large as a deer could hurt a human. In some cases, pet buck deer, charged by hormones during the annual breeding season, have gored people. Even females, Mason said, could eventually be dangerous.

“It would probably be like being pounded with a claw hammer,” he said of a doe slashing someone with its hooves. “People actually get killed by deer that were their little buddy only a week before.”

Ron Klataske, Audubon of Kansas director, said the risks are minimal. Giving the public a close-up look at a deer, coyote, squirrel or raccoon can spark interest in conservation. Many of history’s greatest conservationists, including Theodore Roosevelt, had wild animals as pets. Klataske said he had pet vultures, coyotes and other animals when he was growing up on a Kansas farm in the 1950s. He thinks he’s a better naturalist because of the experience.

An ‘instant connection’

Mcgaughey said she’s always had “a way” with animals. As a child she had a pet mouse she could walk on a leash, and her horses, dogs and cats were especially well trained, she said. A few times she’d mentioned to neighbors in Grant County she’d always wanted a pet deer. Her wish came true in March 2014 when she walked over to the house of some neighbors who’d been keeping a mule deer they’d found as a fawn the year before.

“It was an instant connection and she just followed me home, about four miles,” said Mcgaughey. “She’d bonded some with the other people but not like she did with me.”

Within a few weeks the mule deer, which they named Faline, after Bambi’s friend and future mate in the cartoon movie, “considered herself part of the family,” Mcgaughey said. The deer continually followed Mcgaughey in and out of their home 12 1/2 miles from town, and played with all members of the family and their pets.

Taryn Mcgaughey, Kim Mcgaughey’s daughter, has photos of her 8-year-old son playing with the deer, as well as the animal standing on the couch looking out the window or being hugged by family members. They say the deer never made a mess in their house, and would butt its head against a door, or bleat loudly, when it wanted to be let in.

“She was just like a dog. She’d put her face up to you to be petted,” said Taryn Mcgaughey. “I have pictures of us laying together out in the yard.” She also said the deer would follow family members when they went for walks, just like one of the family’s dogs.

The Mcgaugheys admit they fed the deer, and placed a collar on her neck. The collar, they said, was not to restrain the animal but to let deer hunters know she was a pet. When the deer came home with a broken leg, the family splinted it with a plastic pipe. It healed, but the animal carried a limp.

Kim Mcgaughey said she called a game warden in Lakin in early 2014 and asked what she could legally do.

“He told me as long as the deer was not confined, and wasn’t kept in any kind of enclosure, I was fine. Legal,” she said, adding that she doesn’t remember the game warden’s name.

She said the deer was never confined, and that it regularly showed up at a neighbor’s place 2 1/2 miles away. The deer also had dozens of chances to move off with a number of wild deer that inhabit that area.

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In early December Kim Mcgaughey became worried when the deer didn’t come to her home for several days and she asked in a Facebook post on Dec. 9 if anyone had seen the animal. The deer eventually came home, but Rankin, with the wildlife department, said the post led to a complaint being made to his department.

Rankin said game wardens found Kim Mcgaughey at her workplace in Ulysses on the afternoon of Dec. 19 and issued her a ticket for “unlawful possession of wildlife without a permit.” Three game wardens soon met at her house and determined it wouldn’t be safe to capture the deer. They couldn’t find a veterinarian to tranquilize the animal.

Rankin said there was also concern that the deer could be carrying chronic wasting disease, a fatal deer disease spreading through Kansas, so their options on moving the deer were limited. Live deer cannot be tested for the disease.

Rather than taking a chance the deer might not be there if the game wardens left and came back later, Rankin said game warden Tanner Dixson shot the animal near some trees on the Mcgaugheys’ property, at the edge of the driveway.

Taryn Mcgaughey shot video of the three game wardens following the deer around the yard, the driveway and eventually herding it toward where Dixson was waiting.

Dixson said he could not comment and referred inquiries to Rankin.

Kim Mcgaughey questions the rush, saying the deer was dead within 45 minutes of the game wardens approaching her at work. During that time, she said, she contacted three zoos to see if they would take the animal. She said one, the zoo in Hutchinson, was interested but the person she needed to talk to was gone for the day.

“After having her 22 months, they couldn’t even give us 12 hours to try to take her to a sanctuary,” said Taryn Mcgaughey. “They said they were worried about our safety, but cats and dogs carry more diseases than any deer ever would.”

Rankin said nobody within the wildlife agency feels good when a wild animal that’s been made into a pet has to be destroyed, but that the agency is following the law and providing as much protection as possible for wildlife and humans.

Klataske, however, said it’s time to change the law and use some common sense.

“You can get a permit to kill a deer, or you can kill as many crows or prairie dogs as you want in a day, but you can’t have one in captivity or have it as a pet,” he said. “I think things have gone too far.”

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I just watched the video, it was heartbreaking. I'm actually tearing up as I type this. They should have just left the people alone and not killed the deer. If something bad happens, so be it.

P.S. I must admit I just had a venison steak yesterday! Yes, I'm serious. It was delicious. But it wasn't someone's pet. ...Oh boy. willynilly

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The older wild animals get, the more dominant and unpredictable they become, especially during breeding season. If 2 other people in the state have been killed by pet deer, I sure wouldn't be letting my 8yo child play with it. This animal doesn't have generations of domestic breeding behind it, and its behavior will never be completely predictable. I can see the warden's point. Mule deer are fairly large animals, it must have been a trip letting that thing in their house.


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Killed in the state since when tho?

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Does it matter? They are wild animals. There was a guy not far from where I live that was severely injured by a "pet" deer that he raised from a fawn.


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Yeah man, Kansas and the department of wildlife have been around for a long time.

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Sounds like what so many on here rail against all the time.

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I was more worried about the 8yo kid.


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Let's see, two killed by deer in the state. Yet the kid probably rides in a car several times a week. Unless someone is abusing their child, I believe the government needs to stay out of peoples family issues.

According to your rational, I would suggest animal control go around killing dogs. I bet more people die from dog attacks than deer attacks.


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Wild animals spread disease.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention discourages direct contact with wild animals for a simple reason: They can carry diseases that are dangerous to people, such as rabies, herpes B virus, and Salmonella. The herpes B virus commonly found among macaque monkeys can be fatal to humans. Tens of thousands of people get Salmonella infections each year from reptiles or amphibians, causing the CDC to recommend that these animals be kept out of homes with children under five. A 2003 outbreak of monkeypox was set in motion when African rodents carrying the disease were imported for the pet trade and infected native prairie dogs, who were also sold as pets.

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Can't say this upsets me too much . Deer can be dangerous animals and are unbelievably strong and during rut they are nuts !

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For me, if I'm going to shoot an animal it's going to be with a camera. I have no desire to kill anything. Yes, even though I own 15 guns. It's always sad to see an animal put down but I have to question what these people were thinking letting a deer in their house. As cute as a deer may be, it's not domesticated and certainly not house broke. That had to be disgusting.

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The older wild animals get, the more dominant and unpredictable they become, especially during breeding season


I get the same way in the springtime. naughtydevil

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Well hopefully the government won't get the power to come onto your property and kill you without your consent.


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I dont see anything wrong with having a pet deer as long as you understand the risks. They were wrong to kill this deer. They should have allowed the family to take it to a sanctuary.

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I dont see anything wrong with having a pet deer as long as you understand the risks.


I don't think letting a full grown mule deer into the house and on the couch demonstrates understanding the risks.


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To me it's far more about the principal of the thing. Since when do people advocate allowing the government do decide to come onto your property and make these kinds of decisions for our citizens? I always loved deer hunting and have a taste for venison.

The government already intrudes on our personal freedoms enough.


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Horses are far more dangerous than deer. I dont see anyone getting worked up about the dangers of horseback riding.

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I know what you're saying Pitt, and I don't like government overstepping their boundaries. But I've seen a lot of problems with people trying to raise wild animals as pets, and I also understand the concern of the wardens. Letting a small child in close proximity to wild animals is reckless IMO.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Horses are far more dangerous than deer. I dont see anyone getting worked up about the dangers of horseback riding.


When was the last time you had a horse sitting on your sofa?


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A deer sitting on my sofa isnt harming me. Being bucked off and trampled by a horse is putting me in the hospital with broken bones and possibly killing me.

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I do understand your position as well. But on this one we'll simply have to agree to disagree.

I think it's nice we can have a discussion this way without all of the silly bickering.


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Originally Posted By: jfanent
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Horses are far more dangerous than deer. I dont see anyone getting worked up about the dangers of horseback riding.


When was the last time you had a horse sitting on your sofa?


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Horses are far more dangerous than deer. I dont see anyone getting worked up about the dangers of horseback riding.


When was the last time you had a horse sitting on your sofa?


laugh




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P.S. That's one "overly-domesticated" horse, huh?


Wow that is some quality furniture there to be able to handle that much weight. That would seriously destroy most furniture. You sure that is not photoshopped?


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I agree, too much weight, the chair wouldn't support it, that woman must be photoshopped.

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I do like how the couch cushions are even depressed by the horse's weight at all. lol

As far as dangerous .... someone brought up deer in rut, and they can he incredibly dangerous at that time. Also, deer will run through windows, or anything else in the way if something spooks them. Having on in the house, especially with small children around, is incredible irresponsible.


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A few years back, a deer crashed through an acquaintance's living room plate glass window. Did 12K worth of damage before it jumped back outside. Took all of about 30 seconds.


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You should check your local laws and you'll probably find that game warden has much more power than local and state police to intrude on your personal space without a warrant.


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Its Sad but the law is the law.

“She was a very much a big pet. There was no reason for her to be killed,” said Mcgaughey

The Mcgaugheys admit they fed the deer, and placed a collar on her neck. The collar, they said, was not to restrain the animal but to let deer hunters know she was a pet.

It is illegal to keep a wild animal as a pet in Kansas.

Rankin said game wardens found Kim Mcgaughey at her workplace in Ulysses on the afternoon of Dec. 19 and issued her a ticket for “unlawful possession of wildlife without a permit.” Three game wardens soon met at her house and determined it wouldn’t be safe to capture the deer. They couldn’t find a veterinarian to tranquilize the animal.

The law is the law, so I don't see the problem.
They did what they had to, To protect people.

IE: let say this deer go's down the road to another property up to another 8 year old the kid is scared and yells the deer
reacts and stops on the kid killing them, then all would be screaming why didn't the wardens do anything

So while its sad we all know its not good for any wild animal to lose its fright of people. all it dose is create problems.
They are not pets and should never be treated that way.

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No way I let a wild animal near my kids. This is some really bad parenting. They should have reported the dear 2 years ago so it could be relocated somewhere in the deep woods where it belonged. This is yet another reason you DON'T FEED WILD ANIMALS. Period.


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Originally Posted By: jfanent
I know what you're saying Pitt, and I don't like government overstepping their boundaries. But I've seen a lot of problems with people trying to raise wild animals as pets, and I also understand the concern of the wardens. Letting a small child in close proximity to wild animals is reckless IMO.


Letting children in close proximity to wild parents is even more reckless. willynilly


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Horses are far more dangerous than deer. I dont see anyone getting worked up about the dangers of horseback riding.


When was the last time you had a horse sitting on your sofa?


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P.S. That's one "overly-domesticated" horse, huh?


Wow that is some quality furniture there to be able to handle that much weight. That would seriously destroy most furniture. You sure that is not photoshopped?


It probably is but I have no idea, I just saw it on Google images.

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Please don't anybody tell the game Warden about my pet elephant.



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This is really crazy:


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Maybe when she's done there, she can go play with the cobra.



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