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Agree or not...Fake or not... Nobody is going to stop the fishing for Trump's dealings with Putin, Russia, womanizing, sexual indiscretions, unpaid taxes, and shady financial deals. Probably thinking just like the GOP leaders have. Something is going to stick sooner or later if they follow the GOP model. It's how it's done now.

What is it like to be so bitter all the time?


rofl ...After 8 years, you should know by now.


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Agree or not...Fake or not... Nobody is going to stop the fishing for Trump's dealings with Putin, Russia, womanizing, sexual indiscretions, unpaid taxes, and shady financial deals. Probably thinking just like the GOP leaders have. Something is going to stick sooner or later if they follow the GOP model. It's how it's done now.

What is it like to be so bitter all the time?


rofl ...After 8 years, you should know by now.

I assume you're referring to Obama's presidency, and while I'm no fan of the guy, I've defended him as much as I've criticized him. Maybe you're thinking of somebody else? In any case, there were times in the past that I thought Obama was treated unfairly. However, due in no small part to people like you, I now realize that Trump has been treated worse by the left than Obama was by the right. It's not even close.

In any case, I've been enjoying politics lately. I've mainly just been lurking and observing. It's all so funny watching the same old tactics play out over and over again. Racist this, white supremacist that, claims of Russian hacking, and now this over-the-top dossier about golden showers invented by online trolls. You are welcome to come back to reality, whenever you want to.

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I just have one very important question...

Can someone please ask Trump why he couldn't use American prostitutes?


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Trump has been treated worse by the left than Obama was by the right.


Whining again, already?


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Hey Haus, it ain't over. The story still stands.


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President-elect Donald Trump’s Wednesday morning press conference devolved into a shouting match between himself and CNN’s White House correspondent Jim Acosta. Trump yelled, "you are fake news!" as Acosta tried to press him to answer a question. The exchange was prompted by Trump calling BuzzFeed a “failing pile of garbage.” He said, “I think they’re going to suffer the consequences. They already are.” He added, “As far as CNN going out of their way to build it up....It’s a disgrace what took place. It’s a disgrace, and I think they ought to apologize to start.” Acosta said: “Since you’re attacking us, can you give us a question? ... Since you are attacking our news organization—can you give us a chance?” Trump responded: “Not you. Your organization is terrible.”

Give 'em hell Donald! rofl

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Yeah nice going, golden pee all over the place. So classy.


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I think that Trump loves it when things like this pop up, because they play into his larger narrative. There could be a real scandal in the future, but so much fake news has been thrown at Trump that no one is going to believe it. (except true partisans)


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I'm absolutely Anti Trump. But this, I believe, is about as fake as fake gets... JMO


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Trump says he’ll get F-35 costs ‘way down,’ and Lockheed stock falls

Lockheed Martin just responded to Trump's comments saying...

We understand President -Elect Trump's concerns about the F-35 program and we've given him our full commitment to drive down costs aggressively.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
President-elect Donald Trump’s Wednesday morning press conference devolved into a shouting match between himself and CNN’s White House correspondent Jim Acosta. Trump yelled, "you are fake news!" as Acosta tried to press him to answer a question. The exchange was prompted by Trump calling BuzzFeed a “failing pile of garbage.” He said, “I think they’re going to suffer the consequences. They already are.” He added, “As far as CNN going out of their way to build it up....It’s a disgrace what took place. It’s a disgrace, and I think they ought to apologize to start.” Acosta said: “Since you’re attacking us, can you give us a question? ... Since you are attacking our news organization—can you give us a chance?” Trump responded: “Not you. Your organization is terrible.”

Give 'em hell Donald! rofl

CNN is the absolute worst.

I've often heard that MSNBC is on the left and Fox is on the right and there is certainly some truth to that. MSNBC is indeed a liberal mouthpiece, but I still view them as having some journalistic integrity.

CNN is the type of station that will literally change Trump's quotes to make him look bad (e.g. inserting "racial" into general comments about profiling), and leak questions to the Clinton camp before the debates. Hence, Clinton News Network. It should be no surprise that they were the ones who cracked the door open for these bogus charges.

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The News.
Another respected institution the Left has perverted. thumbsdown

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Please let all this be true.


Keep digging. The only thing at the bottom of your sewer is yet another liberal democrat.


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Read between the lines 40...Donald ripped into CNN and then also insulted the BBC. So, freedom of Press no longer stands? You are ok with him not answering very important questions because he is feeling the heat from the intelligence documents? As an American citizen shouldn't you demand more from your President? Especially as you wrote in another thread about how you are prepared to defend our Constitution. Seems like the 1st amendment isn't as important to you as the 2nd.

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Read between the lines 40...Donald ripped into CNN and then also insulted the BBC. So, freedom of Press no longer stands? You are ok with him not answering very important questions because he is feeling the heat from the intelligence documents? As an American citizen shouldn't you demand more from your President? Especially as you wrote in another thread about how you are prepared to defend our Constitution. Seems like the 1st amendment isn't as important to you as the 2nd.



As an American citizen we should demand more of our press.


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He answered every question the Press freely asked of him.

He ignored the janitor, the lighting guy and CNN.

Nothing unConstitutional there.

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As an American citizen we should demand more of our press.



I agree with this statement.

But, we are a nation that plays video games, watches The Bachelor, enjoys TMZ and buys plastic crap that we don't need. So, what do you expect? I guess all of the above also explains why Trump is now our President-Elect.

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What's important here is this was all a crock.

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So, th IC has corroboration?

I'd be interested in seeing the proof. If true, can trump. If not true, the IC and everyone that ran with these "reports from un named sources", should apologize.

Fair?

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What's important here is this was all a crock.


I love how a bunch of people on a football fan site are saying they know the intelligence docs that were leaked were a bunch of "croc".

Tell us how you know? Is it via the media you choose to read that tells you so?

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Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
Read between the lines 40...Donald ripped into CNN and then also insulted the BBC. So, freedom of Press no longer stands? You are ok with him not answering very important questions because he is feeling the heat from the intelligence documents? As an American citizen shouldn't you demand more from your President? Especially as you wrote in another thread about how you are prepared to defend our Constitution. Seems like the 1st amendment isn't as important to you as the 2nd.


I know this is addressed to 40 but I have a few comments as well. First, what I wrote about CNN above was before I read of Trump's dismissal of the CNN reporter (I still have not watched it.)

I'm a staunch supporter of the 1st amendment and free speech in general. I think it was Rocket or maybe it was somebody else (CHS?) who said in one of these threads that speech that we disagree with the most is the kind of speech that needs to be protected. I'm paraphrasing there but the idea is that the things that hit the hardest, and have the potential to be most hurtful, sometimes have elements of truth that go along with them. Indeed, that is what tends to make things the most hurtful.

So with that being said, I do think we have to tread carefully, CNN is a garbage organization for sure but there is freedom of the press. What the line is between that and libel is always a contentious issue, but I don't see how Donald Trump not answering a question from CNN violates free speech? He has the right to dismiss CNN just as Obama had the right to dismiss Fox News, which he did many times throughout his presidency. Whether or not that's a good precedent to set is another issue... I tend to think not. It's a tough issue though because CNN has done Trump dirty on a number of occasions now.

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The New York Times in this case.

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The New York Times in this case.


During the campaign you thoroughly dismissed this organization. What gives now?

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The New York Times in this case.


During the campaign you thoroughly dismissed this organization. What gives now?


They actually made a wise decision to investigate this story instead of calling Hillary for what to say.

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Agree or not...Fake or not... Nobody is going to stop the fishing for Trump's dealings with Putin, Russia, womanizing, sexual indiscretions, unpaid taxes, and shady financial deals. Probably thinking just like the GOP leaders have. Something is going to stick sooner or later if they follow the GOP model. It's how it's done now.

What is it like to be so bitter all the time?


I don't know.

Posters on here did it for 8 years.

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These leaked "documents" could affect the election process in the u.s. Why are you not outraged by that? poke

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Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
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As an American citizen we should demand more of our press.



I agree with this statement.

But, we are a nation that plays video games, watches The Bachelor, enjoys TMZ and buys plastic crap that we don't need. So, what do you expect? I guess all of the above also explains why Trump is now our President-Elect.


Since I don't play video games, watch the bachelor, TMZ or buy (too much) plastic crap I don't need, you'll need someone else to answer this. If I were to venture a guess I'd say Trump is prez-elect because he got more electoral votes than the failed, pathetic candidate that was running against him.


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Since I don't play video games, watch the bachelor, TMZ or buy (too much) plastic crap I don't need, you'll need someone else to answer this.



Good. Neither am I. However, we are surrounded by many who do.

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So this guy still isn't releasing his tax returns.


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So this guy still isn't releasing his tax returns.



Valid point/question.

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So this guy still isn't releasing his tax returns.



What do u expect his tax returns to reveal?




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So this guy still isn't releasing his tax returns.



What do u expect his tax returns to reveal?


Don't know, Since he won't release them even though he said he would.


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So this guy still isn't releasing his tax returns.



What do u expect his tax returns to reveal?


Not much except to give some people something to bitch and gripe about - but he DID say he would release them if he got elected.

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So this guy still isn't releasing his tax returns.



What do u expect his tax returns to reveal?


Don't know, Since he won't release them even though he said he would.


I would imagine his lawyers told him not so fast ....

Hopefully 1/21 he gives himself amnesty to end the IRS witch hunt and then he can release them ... *L* ....

So u have no expectations on what there going to reveal ... there's no particular place U think there's a smoking gun? ...




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Sure there are.

But we went over this last year. No need to repeat post.

The guy said he'd release his tax returns. One has to wonder what's he hiding since he refuses to release them.


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The word transparency and Donald Trump don't belong on the same planet . What makes people , even his supporters, think that just because he is now The President that somehow the smoke and mirrors will go away ? His ENTIRE life is a series of back room deals , bargains and bullying to get what he wants and the only question is how that strategy will affect the American public .wait and see I suppose .

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The word transparency and Donald Trump don't belong on the same planet . What makes people , even his supporters, think that just because he is now The President that somehow the smoke and mirrors will go away ? His ENTIRE life is a series of back room deals , bargains and bullying to get what he wants and the only question is how that strategy will affect the American public .wait and see I suppose .


Not that it matters, but if that is your criteria, then no matter which of the candidates won, we'd be facing the same thing.

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Meh , as I said I'll wait and see but I can't help but feel that the tension that has been building in this country for years will come to a head under this administration .

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