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I just can't get behind drafting Trubisky in the first round. Even the statement you make below about him having a 2nd rnd skill set, but reaching for him in the 1st doesn't make any sense to me. If "we" (re: the coaches, scouts, organization) know he is a 2nd rnd talent, why are we reaching for him in the first? Particularly the 1.01 pick?!? It doesn't compute.

I'd rather go BPA in the first round and not reach for a QB. Garrett. Allen. I don't care which one, just get the BPA. I do like Foster at 12. Not sure how I feel about another WR in the first 4 rounds - we took a lot last year that haven't seen time yet.

I was one of the first to start talking about Trubisky, but there's zero chance I'd take him with #1 overall.

It is Garrett at #1 for me and nobody else at this point. There's 3 players I'd personally target at 12, and Foster is one of those, so no complaints from me on that pick. For the rest of the draft, it is ok. Fills needs for sure, and some quality players, but I'd want to see who was available at those spots, likely I'd have a few changes, but again, not bad.

The thing is, if we want one of the QBs (Trubinsky, Watson, Kizer) then we have to take them with the first pick. You can't chance one of them falling to #12. Especially if you do not have all 3 rated the same.

Not saying I would do it, as I would not. But the only way we score one of those QBs is with the first pick.

Of course, JMO

Agree 100% -- and that's the million dollar question.

Coin flip on the #1 overall - if Hue is 100% sold on Trub, then this works and I am really happy with the draft overall.

If they went Garret #1 overall and then selected these players in the draft I would be very happy too.

If this were to happen I have a huge prediction. You guys might think I'm crazy. I predict I'll be much more likely to just stay in the muni and drink than waste money on tickets

Actually...no. And I would probably join you for a brew or two, or more...

I make damn good spiked cider. Just look for the camo tent with the old red chevy

I really hope we don't choose a QB first. There will be a lot of people here in an uproar if we do so.

Please take Garrett instead.

For those who say we'd be reaching if we took any QB #1, by who's standards? Your's, Mel Kipers Big Board, any mock draft you see online from the so called experts? They all have a different take. Who's to say Garrett will be a beast in the NFL? He has just as much chance of being a bust as any other position we take. When we took Courtney Brown, he was supposedly the safest bet in the entire draft and we took him #1. How'd that work out? Bottom line is we miss on any position so why not at least try for the most important position on the field by far?

+1

I don't think Gabber...error trubisky has a single blue chip attribute. But my apologies if my 1st comment was rude you are entitled to you own.

Actually, late in the season, you could get a ticket for less than it costs to park in the Muni Lot. lol

Mitch at #1 would be a serious mistake IMO. We are in a position to get a good player. QB's are always a gamble. We can't blow this.

Remember, we can go for a QB next year. We need to bolster the D and get some players in place.

I don't consider Courtney Brown a bust. Never have. He simply caught the injury bug, and could never shake it. When he was healthy, he was a beast, and, was a good pick.

I don't blame a guy who gets hurt.

I'm not of the opinion that Trubisky is worth the first pick. This draft is so deep in defensive talent, that it would make no sense to go with a QB that high. The other picks I'm fine with.

The Bengals biggest need is a MIKE linebacker. I'd be stunned if they passed on Foster at 9.

We have been QB Starved since Kosar, we have the top pick now, if they are saying he is good enough for Niners @ 2 or The Bears @ 3 why not us @ 1 I mean sooner or later we have to go for a franchise QB ... And if this draft (which I believe it is) is so deep on D we have a bunch of picks to fill those positions ... JMHO

Brown was good when healthy (which wasn't often), but certainly no game changer by any means. For a first pick and including the injuries, as I do, he was a bust at pick 1. That's my opinion on it.

Valid question. Personally, I don't feel Trubisky is a first round talent. If the projections and pundits are accurate, I think the talent of Garrett/Allen is simply greater than Trubisky. (Disclaimers, and YMMV)

Unless Trubisky turns out to be a consensus top 5 pick, there's no way I pass on Garrett. From all accounts, he's as safe a prospect there's been in a while

I think Trub #1 overall would be a colossal mistake. Nothing about him makes me go wow, and if i'm picking #1 overall it better make me say wow..both Garrett and Allen make me say wow when i watch them..just because you need a QB doesn't mean you act stupid and take one #1 overall in a very weak QB class. Thats just about as close to throwing away a pick just to pick need instead of BPA, and not a single QB in this class I think is worth a top 10 pick then alone first overall..for me its Garrett or allen, and then let the rest fall where they may. jmo

Give me Garrett over Trubisky every time IMO

I really hope they don't choose Miles Garrett first. There will be a lot of people here unhappy if they don't, but what do they know.

Please take a quarterback instead.

Kam Wimbley, Beke Mingo, Sheard, if they needed a Garrett so bad they should have developed there own.
And how much better does having 1 particular rusher, even if he's grouped with a bunch like the Texans,
Clowney, Watt, Mercilus, and one more, and they STILL didn't win a playoff game this year.
But just like Trent Richardson was a must have, and just like Eric Berry was a must have, I just think these are mistakes.

None of those came into the NFL with the perceived potential of MG.
Try again.

Furthermore , is JJ Watt the reason Houston can't win a playoff game?
No.
It might be the QB situation down in Houston.

Every pick is always a gamble. They should try not to blow this, but they have in the past.
Jeremiah Pharms, Justin Gilbert, (player from Chadron State).

Remember they can go for the fill in positions next year.
They need to bolster the win colum and get that QB in place, so he can grow over the next 10+ years of Cleveland Browns greatness.

Besides , lets look at the picks the Browns took in the top 120 overall over the last 4 years, ok well lets go all the way back to 2006, it appears almost always they bolster the Defense and the offensive lines,
And still last place in the division, about every year.

Besides in just the last TWO years, they took
Ogbah, Nassib, Schobert,
Shelton, Xavier Cooper, Nate Orchard, and Ibrahiem Campbell.

If it worked! The Defense should be GangBusters!

Draft the Quarterback. And not, I'm NOT talking about Trubisky.

My first 4 round mock, did very little research, went from the heart, the websight stopped me before I could continue round 3.

So, ok, Deshaun Watson, why not, I'm willing to see what'll happen, could be worse, and #1 overall, ... (can he help me beat the steelers? I think there's a chance.)
Kosar beat Flutie, I put high stock in how they play in a bowl game/ big game.

Next pick, Fanspeak had me at 20 overall, oh well I didn't realize it until now. pick from the heart.

I took Amara Darboh Wr, Michigan, with the 2nd 1st round pick. A pick from the heart, I really love that I got this guy,
He iirc, had a good OSU Michigan game, I think even if he failed, I look back at someone like Golden Tate, who overachieved " after" he got to the NFL,
I think I really want to see an offense with Pryor, Coleman, and Darboh able to stretch on the opposite side.
( the ones from last year, picked later than the 3rd, are still works in progress.)
** does he help me beat the steelers? I think so, can he be a 10 yr nfl player, I think so.**

Next pick 31 overall, hey, they had RaeKwon McMillian from Ohio State still available,
with Joy I'd select RaeKwon McMillian, I think he might be the best player in the draft, he came up big in big games, he's the one Buckeye I want on the Brown's
** can he help me beat the steelers? heck ya!!!!**

wow, very soon at #50 the pick was up again,
I wanted one of the top 5 tight ends in this draft, the one I really like is Hodges from Virginia Tech.

TE Hodges, from V.T. yes, I'm selecting from the heart, I'm talking about matchups, I'm looking at a guy who looks like,? could he be a 10 yr nfl player? yes.
** does he help me beat the steelers?** Ya! I think so, especially over time. another one I want.

next pick was up , it was the Browns 3rd rounder, Now I'd watched about 14 players go marked edge rusher off the list, when what d'ya know all of a sudden
T.J Watt from Wisconsin
I saw this guy coming up big in a big game, and I'm stoked to see him availbale. I know I've got 5 players now that look the part of difference maker, and I'm stoked.

So what I havent' addressed the O-line, or the D-line, they do that every year , how's that workin out for ya? I think it's time to give Shelton, Cam Erving, and Shon Coleman more time to develop, and
what's the difference, also rans that come up big like Paztor have been the best surprise anyways.

and I LAUGH, because now that I look back at this, not only do these guys seem to be good guys that I like and are difference makers, but I think these guy look like analytics guys also.
And I wasn't even trying.

I don't want to see em win in April,...
April doesn't mean anything, I'd much rather have a bad draft, that everybody complains about in April, where they all stud out and make the team competitive, even Winners, in, When it counts!

I left the DB group a sorry pile? I did leave the Db group like that, but hey, not keeping the team together created that, What a waste it might be to spend a draft pick on a DB, just to get a Db, when Free Agency or even "wait and see" might get as good of a replacement .

the history is meaningless, man. QB prospects in 2017 are questionable.
We need a pass rusher and more difference makers on D. I don't watch college ball but I like what I read and hear about Garrett.