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Wanted to create one thread to discuss our free agents and guys we could look at. After Haden and Thomas our next top 3 highest paid players are RGIII, Tramon Williams and Josh McCown. Those 3 are scheduled to make 22 million next year. We can save about 19 million by cutting all three, which I would probably do.

I'd cut all three as well, especially if we have a plan at QB (whether it's Kessler, Jimmy G, Romo, Trubisky, whatever).

In FA, I'd like to see us sign Collins and Pryor ... that would be a start IMO

Yes, let go of RGIII, Tramon, & McCown. I have a bad feeling we will retry the RGIII experiment.

Definitely resign Collins and Pryor. Even if you have to overpay. I'd say Collins is a higher priority.

Pickups? Kevin Zeitler (Cinci guard) would be an epic get, but that seems too unlikely. Same w/ Andrew Norwell (Panthers guard) & Larry Warford (Lions guard).

A.J. Bouye (Texans CB), Logan Ryan (Patriots CB), or Stephon Gilmore (Bills CB) sound good?

Gregg Williams is familiar w/ Dominique Easly (Rams DT)

Giants are going to let Johnathan Hankins go. I'd love to pair him and Shelton to stop the run.

Hankins would be a good get ... as would Zeitler

Micah Hyde (Safety-Packers) is a FA, as well as Trumaine Johnson (CB-Rams). Both those pickups would really upgrade our secondary. Hyde played well last night and has been good all year in a banged up Packers' secondary. Hyde may opt to start (and get paid) elsewhere. Just supposition on my part. He's also from Toledo...

Johnson has the Williams connection.

I'd like to see us pick up a receiver and a DT, either FA or draft.

I don't' think the Browns will take up any free agent older than 27. It seems to be an important factor for them.

We need to get a Hank Fraley type of center this year. A good guy who can stop in and play the spot for a few years.

I actually legit think we may have a shot at zeitler. The arrow is pointing down in Cincinnati and he's the exact kind of FA our FO is willing to pay for. Young, diligent, consistent and obviously he knows hue. Him locking down RG for 5 years would allow Greco to Fraley for us and make rt a competition. There's enough bodies I think we could get at least an average rt with a full off season and finally have some depth.


Thomas, bitonio, Greco, zeitler, maybe pazstor, drango, cam, Coleman, reiter, maybe a 4th round C, fabiono and bailey. That's a very good camp OL with some great competition and depth. Make those bottom guys fight for a spot.

Just give all of our cap space to Eric Berry and be done with it. Tell him he won't have to play a team that has a horse as the mascot. He will jump at the opportunity.

I've went through the chiefs cap outlook and I don't see any way he stays a chief. He's been one of my favorite players since he came out. If he landed here I'd lose it.

Eric Berry was the guy I wanted in the 2010 draft (we ended up with Joe Haden).

They will cut Nick Foles and save over $10 million and probably Jamal Charles and save $7 million. They can also cut their punter and save $4 million.

If they want to keep Berry, they definitely can.

I agree. Maybe 28 depending on position played, QB and maybe kicker excluded. Those guys can usually play well near 40. Lot's of QB's and kickers have done that.

I don't think we will be looking at signing a FA to a high dollar, 4 year deal that takes him past the age of 33.

Yes but they have Dontari Poe to resign as well and they already franchised Berry once. They will likely prioritize Poe. They can't afford both

Washington interviewed Rob Ryan for their defensive coordinator position today. Pray for them.

Also, it looks like Chip Kelly is going to end up being the offensive coordinator for the Jaguars. That's really weird.

can chip kelly fix Blake Bortles?

Got my eye on Trumaine Johnson too. I think he would be a great addition. However, as we recently signed Taylor to a decent deal and we have Haden I don't know if we would go for him.

I don't think the salary cap is a big issue anymore. It was in the early 2000s, but teams can easily manipulate the cap these days.

I would argue it still is a very big issue it's just that executives have gotten better at dealing with it. That may be what you mean though.

To fix something is to imply it used to run properly.

Bortles was never good.

Maybe with the influence of someone who knows how to run an NFL offense (Doug Marrone), Kelly can tweak his offense to suit Bortles. It'll be interesting to see if the Jaguars pick up Bortles fifth year option.

I admittedly rely on others for most on players on other teams but was bortles not on fire in 2015? I never liked him as a prospect but I counted myself wrong until he 180d this year. Was 2015 not as good for him as it looked?

He had a lot of garbage time stats. Also, he is the king of the backbreaking interception.

cfrs has always had a chip on his shoulder regarding Bortles. He is not the guy to listen to if you want objectivity on that particular qb.

Bortles was a project coming out. I think he was drafted earlier than he should have been. Most of us thought that he should have sat and learned for at least two years. Instead, he was thrust into the fire. He has had his ups and downs.

He has not been all that good. He throws too many picks. However, to say he is a finished product is stupid as hell. The guy has a ton of physical talent that most can only dream of. He is very young.

I am NOT saying he will be good, but it's way too early to make the comments that guys like cfrs are about Bortles.

Put it this way................I'd much rather have him alone than all four qbs on our roster.

This isn't the Coach Movement thread, guys.

What?

definitely disagree on that.

Tallest midget. I'd take him over all our guys too. That is more of an indictment of the guys we have and not a vote of confidence for Bortles.

My opinion is that Bortles is not a done deal. He still has potential to become good. To classify him as a bust is premature given his extreme athletic ability.

Brian Winters got paid well. I guarantee the Bengals can't afford Zeitler and the Ravens can't afford Wagner now.

We have 107 mil in cap space. If we cut RG3, Mccown, and Tramon that'd give us 126 million. I'd like to consider cutting Hawkins because of his age. That'd put us at 128 million in cap space.

I may shoot somebody if I hear the phrase "we need to manage the cap space" as a reason for not signing somebody. That type of insanity turns you into a meme on the Internet.

I think that teams do a better job of spreading out cap hits, and also do a better job of not throwing franchise money at average players. (overall) Teams also got a huge bump in the 2016 cap,that helped teams be able to do some things to better work the cap. (like having room to cut bad contracts and take the cap hits, etc.)

The cap does need to managed. It's bad process to overpay guys just because you have money.

We don't just have money. We have 20 million more than the next team behind us. We could easily make it almost 40 million. Time to spend money.

I'm not saying don't spend money. I'm saying don't overspend.

Overspend on Eric Berry.

Yes. As I said before, give him all of our cap room.

Harrison smith's deal is 5 yr 51 mil as the hughest paid S. I'd gladly give berry that though I'd rather it be for 4 yr

No way Chiefs take Dontari over him.