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Browns legend Frisman Jackson is now the WR coach for the Tenn Titans

Those that cant do, Teach. he couldnt catch nor run a route to save his life so maybe he will be a good teacher.

New Browns defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is adding another familiar face to his coaching staff after making yet another change.


The Browns fired defensive line coach Robert Nunn and will replace him with former Los Angeles assistant defensive line coach Clyde Simmons, a person familiar with the moves said Tuesday.
Nunn spent this past season with the Browns after coaching the defensive line of the New York Giants the previous six years. When the Browns fired five assistant coaches Jan. 10, including four on the defensive staff, Nunn was spared, only to be let go later.


Simmons, 52, spent the past five seasons as an assistant D-line coach with the Rams and the past three years with Williams, the franchise’s defensive coordinator from 2014-16. Simmons also worked defensive line coach Mike Waufle during each of his five seasons with the Rams. The Buffalo Bills hired Waufle last week.


The Browns finished the 2016 season tied for 30th among 32 teams with 26 sacks.


In the five seasons Waufle and Simmons led the Rams’ D-line, the team finished with the following rankings in sacks:


• 2016: tied for 24th (31)
• 2015: 11th (41)
• 2014: tied for 13th (40)
• 2013: third (53)
• 2012 tied for first (52)


Simmons played defensive end in the NFL for 15 seasons, spending time with the Philadelphia Eagles, Arizona Cardinals, Jacksonville Jaguars, Cincinnati Bengals and Chicago Bears. He earned Pro Bowl and first-team All-Pro honors in consecutive seasons (1991-92) with the Eagles and finished his career with 121.5 sacks.


He retired after the 2000 season and worked as a private mortgage officer and probation officer in Georgia. He also coached prep football at Greater Atlanta Christian School in Norcross, Ga.
He entered the NFL coaching ranks in 2010 as an intern with the New York Jets.


Since replacing defensive coordinator Ray Horton on Jan. 7, Williams has hired defensive backs coach DeWayne Walker and linebackers coach Blake Williams, his son. Like Simmons, they have worked under the elder Williams before.

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/br...mmons-1.740811

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18497328/san-francisco-49ers-offer-kyle-shanahan-head-coach-job

shanny must be #2

That is such a dumb-ass statement.

Let me try:

Those that don't want to learn.........Blame teachers.

And teachers who suck at their jobs...blame students.

Yep, I agree.

However, the first statement that Mourg made was an all-encompassing remark.

I do not believe it is fair or accurate to lump an entire group of people into one category. I thought you might not get that. Guess I was wrong.

You got all that from one sentence?

Been living it for years, bro.

We fired our defensive line coach and hired a new one.

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns...immons-1.740811

In - Clyde Simmons
Out - Robert Nunn

Today?

This kind of teacher is great:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LetJHQ_V05o

To Mike Silver:


https://twitter.com/DawgsByNature/status/821746049735950336

Mike Silver's Response:

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/821749514516074498

Browns hire offensive line coach Bob Wylie

By NATE ULRICH Published: January 18, 2017


Browns coach Hue Jackson witnessed Bob Wylie guide the offensive line of the Oakland Raiders to an impressive turnaround in 2011 and is hoping for some deja vu in Cleveland.

The Browns hired Wylie as their offensive line coach, a person familiar with the situation said Wednesday. The Beacon Journal previously reported the move would likely be made.

When Jackson was the head coach of the Raiders in 2011, Wylie helped them tie for fourth in the NFL in fewest sacks allowed with 25. The season before Wylie's arrival, only five teams surrendered more sacks than the Raiders when they gave up 44.
Jackson seeks a similar transformation after firing offensive line coach Hal Hunter last week. The Browns allowed 66 sacks this past season, 17 more than any other NFL team.

The Browns are the eighth NFL team to hire Wylie, 65. He has also coached for six colleges and two Canadian Football League teams, spending the past three seasons as the offensive line coach of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-brow...-wylie-1.741100

4th in the NFL?

Man that's good. So, the years we had joe Thomas, bitonio, Alex Mack, Greco, and Schwartz, what was our rankings in sacks?

That was 2014-2015 and 2015-2016 I think.

2014

6. Cleveland Browns (12th)

Pass Blocking Ranking: 2nd, Run Blocking Ranking: 7th, Penalties Ranking: 16th

Stud: What a year from Joe Thomas (+33.5). The sure-fire Hall of Famer continues to amaze with his play, never having an off year, looking like the best tackle of his generation.

Dud: When Alex Mack went down, Nick McDonald (-28.3) got 481 snaps at center. It did not go well… at all. Truth be told, anyone who got snaps at center struggled after the loss of Mack.

Breakdown: The pickup of Joel Bitonio reaped immediate rewards with this line playing as well as any. That was until they lost Mack for the year and that was a hammer blow to their chances of the top spot. Still, there aren’t many lines with as much talent on their roster as the Browns.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/4/

That's the sack ranking?

I guess you have some homework to do.

I love assignments.

So with the best offensive line talent we ever had for two years (2014-15, 2015-16):

Sacks allowed:

2014-15: 20th with 31 sacks allowed

2015-16: T-30th with 53 sacks allowed.

And we all know this years ranking.

Hopefully this is a good hire.

The Jaguars didn't end up hiring Kelly as their offensive coordinator.

maybe they brought him in to pick his brain on Kaepernick

I guess SF did offer Shanny the HC job. I think he would be crazy to take that job. If I were him, I would wait one more year and take a head coaching job w/a more stable organization. SF is almost as bad as we are.

Here is a video about it: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video/kyle-shanahan-turn-around-dysfunctional-151021856.html

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...aa-f64ce982b7ba

Official press release on coaching hires^

We know about all of them. No offensive hires besides Wylie as the offensive line coach. My guess is that Al Saunders and Kirby Wilson got promotions.

Browns add 5 to coaching staff


Browns defensive coordinator Gregg Williams fills staff; O-line coach hired




The Cleveland Browns have added five assistants to their coaching staff. Jerod Kruse (assistant defensive backs), Clyde Simmons (defensive line), DeWayne Walker (defensive backs), Blake Williams (linebackers) and Bob Wylie (offensive line) have joined the 2017 coaching staff. Simmons replaces Robert Nunn, who has been relieved of his duties.


“Over the last two weeks I’ve spent a lot of time interviewing coaches and have had some difficult decisions to make,” said Head Coach Hue Jackson. “As I’ve said before, that’s part of my responsibility in my role as head coach of this football team as we are constantly chasing improvement and success. Coaching is always going to be about teaching and it was very important that we found the right coaches that will come in and be able to help our players reach their full potential. We always talk about creating the right environment for our players to succeed and I believe the group we’ve been able to assemble will help us accomplish just that.”


Kruse brings 16 years of coaching experience. In 2016, Kruse served as the defensive coordinator for Lee’s Summit West High School (Mo.) after 15 years of coaching on the college level. In 2015, Kruse worked as the associate head coach and special teams coordinator at Southeastern Louisiana University after serving as head coach at William Jewell College from 2010-15, where he was named Great Lakes Valley Conference Coach of the Year in 2014. Kruse also served as the defensive coordinator for his first three seasons (2010-12) as head coach after serving as defensive coordinator from 2008-09. Prior to William Jewell, he coached the secondary at Baker University in 2007 and at his alma mater of Emporia State from 2001-06. Kruse worked with Browns defensive coordinator Gregg Williams as a guest coach in the summers from 2008-11 with New Orleans and 2012-15 with Los Angeles/St. Louis.


Simmons spent the last five seasons (2012-16) with the Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams as assistant defensive line coach. Simmons helped coach three-time Pro Bowl DT Aaron Donald, who earned Defensive Rookie of the Year Honors in 2014, and All-Pro DE Robert Quinn who set a single-season franchise record with 19 sacks in 2013. The Rams finished third in the NFL with 217 total sacks during Simmons’ tenure with the team, including leading the league with 52 in 2012. Prior to his time with the Rams, Simmons spent the 2010 season as a coaching intern with the New York Jets, primarily working with the defensive line. Before entering the coaching ranks, Simmons was a two-time Pro Bowler and two-time All-Pro over the course of a 15-year NFL career. A ninth-round pick of the Eagles out of Western Carolina in the 1986 NFL Draft, Simmons’ 121.5 career sacks ranks in the top-20 in NFL history, including a career-best 19 in the 1992. His 236 games played are tied for fourth in NFL history among defensive linemen. He is a native of Wilmington, N.C.


Walker brings 11 years of NFL coaching experience and most recently served as defensive backs coach with Jacksonville the past four seasons (2013-16). In 2016, Walker was tasked with the development of first-round pick CB Jalen Ramsey and helped him become the first rookie in franchise history to record an interception in back-to-back games and the first to return an interception for a touchdown. Walker has also spent time as secondary coach with the New York Giants (2002-03), Washington (2004-05) and New England (1998-2000). On the college level, he served as the head coach at New Mexico State from 2009-12 following three years at UCLA as defensive coordinator. Walker also spent 2001 as the associate head coach/secondary coach at USC and spent time at California (1996-97), Oklahoma State (1995), Brigham Young (1994) and Utah State (1993). Walker began his coaching career in 1988 at Mt. San Antonio College, serving as the defensive backs coach for four seasons and defensive coordinator for one. As a corner and former starter at the University of Minnesota, Walker played for the CFL’s Edmonton Eskimos in 1982 and spent two seasons (1983-84) playing in the USFL.


Williams brings seven years of NFL coaching experience and most recently worked at the NFL league office in 2016. In 2015, he served as the defensive coordinator at Southeastern Louisiana University after working as a defensive coaching consultant at William Jewell College for two seasons (2013-14). In 2012, Williams coached linebackers and served as defensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams. From 2009-11, he was an offensive assistant working primarily with the offensive line for New Orleans, helping the team win Super Bowl XLIV. Prior to New Orleans, Williams served as linebackers coach and a strength and conditioning coach for Jacksonville in 2008 after getting his start as a coaching intern with Washington from 2006-07. A Princeton graduate, Williams played defensive back for the Tigers.


Wylie brings 35 years of experience coaching on the professional and collegiate levels. He has coached in the NFL for 16 seasons, CFL for six seasons and on the college level for 13 years. Wylie spent the past three seasons (2014-16) as the offensive line coach for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. During his stints in the CFL, he helped his teams play for the Grey Cup twice and coached his players to All-Star appearances at every position on the offensive line (tackle, guard and center). In the NFL ranks, he served as the Raiders offensive line coach on Hue Jackson’s staff in 2011. He also spent time with the New York Jets (1990-91), Tampa Bay (1992-95), Cincinnati (1997-98), Chicago (1999-03), Arizona (2004) and Denver (2010). He coached Pro Football Hall of Fame tackle Anthony Muñoz and his line opened holes for the NFL’s all-time leading rusher and Pro Football Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith. In 2001, his line helped the Bears produce an NFL-low 17 sacks, while blocking for running back Anthony Thomas, who earned NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year honors. Wylie is a native of West Warwick, R.I.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/...a-f64ce982b7ba

I think I would have tried to keep Nunn in some capacity, but other than that no one I'm particularly sad to see go (I suppose Cioffi, too, though he seemed more tied to Horton) I though someone did a good job with Shelton and that appeared to have been Nunn, we'll see how it goes.

Continuity would have been nice, and the replacements have a lot to prove. We'll see. Hopefully Hue got it right this time, and we can stick to the plan/the people fit it.

Mour didn't think of that himself

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Those+who+can,+do%3B+those+who+can%27t,+teach

I have more faith in GW as a D coach then RH. Let him bring in who he wants. I think our D will be much improved just with the new coaches. If we can add more talent in FA and the draft we may really have something.

Seems like I heard that one before. LOL

we will see. honestly, as much as i tried to defend Horton...i mean bro it can't get any worse than last. if the guy brings us from 31st-32nd to 23rd-25th, that's an improvement.

Swish that's what I'm trying to say. Something, anything, that has us moving in the right direction. Lord knows we're overdue. What happened to the law of averages? Shouldn't it apply to our Browns too?

Bro, my point was that posters were saying that very same thing just a year ago. We need to get new talent, not new coaches.

Vers, both of us hated the hire and thought horton would be gone after a year. Seriously, it was a really stupid hire made due to outside influences and not a great fit. Hue doesnt want to be the guy running the defense on a daily basis and he had to step into the D side just to often.

The having 10 men on D to start the game is the kind of stuff that costs a head coach his job. This was just after the week before when we had 10 men in the redzone and 3 dbs defending one guy while the TE and RB both were on a complete release. I believe the decision was probably made earlier to make the change but Hue was wanting to wait to make sure he could get a quality coach in here and not have to make the change again.

Firing horton wasnt a bad move, Hiring Horton to begin with was a really bad move.

I don't think anyone is arguing the fact that our talent was the #1 reason for our defensive performance. I think the upcoming draft will (somewhat) confirm that when our haul will be very D-heavy.

What I'm saying is that there is also room for improvement in terms of defensive coaching. No, it's not the #1 reason for the problem (D performance), but an improvement in coaching will result in an improved defense.

I'm getting to the point where I believe O Line coach is one of the most important positions in an entire organization.

Wylie is listed as an amateur Magician

(Let the dawgtalker jokes and puns commence)

A question for all of you guys who are so happy we fired Horton and 5 other coaches. How well has it worked out every other time we fired a bunch of coaches?

Did we improve or continue spinning our wheels?

Changing schemes. Letting decent players walk because we are changing things.

Joe Thomas has basically said the same damn thing that I am saying. Do you guys think he is stupid, too?

I see Willams as an upgrade over Horton. Simple as that.

I don't think the Browns will be intentionally letting players walk for a long time. That was a mistake and the results demonstrated it. You have to keep your good players.

No, Joe is not stupid. But Horton has been a bit over rated as a DC. History show that. History is more favorable to Williams.

Rick Dennison hired to run offense for the Bills.

Any word on Browns OC candidates?

Seriously? Pep wasn't even the OC last year. He was asst. HC and passing coordinator.

Hue will be the OC/HC like he was last year. Maybe Al Saunders gets a bump because of his track record to Asst. HC or something but I don't expect an "OC" to be hired.

Hue Jackson is the offensive coordinator.

My guess is that Al Saunders becomes the QB coach and Kirby Wilson gets a promotion. New staff hires would have been announced by now, the Senior Bowl starts Saturday.