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Where will we be in 4 years with Trump and his picks with control of both houses and the court?

Where will the unemployment rate be?

Will more jobs be created than the last 4 years of Obama?

We he get trolled into a war with North Korea, China, Iran, etc?



Will the stock market be higher than it is today-19,850?

Will we enter a recession/depression?

Will the deficit keep increasing?

What will health insurance be like? Will it keep increasing in cost much faster than the rate of inflation?


And then the wedge issues? Comment on whatever comes to mind.

I will play.

In 4 years we will be reelecting Trump for another 4 years!

Trump will be impeached for something (conflict of interest, sexual assault charges something he does that puts the country in jeopardy etc.) and Pence will be our President.

In four years the country will elect a salt of the earth, union Dem from the industrial midwest or northeast who has the ability to speak to both the conservative union Dem as well as the west coast and Boston liberal.

That would be fine as Pence would take over and he is a real Conservative, Lib hater!

So the unemployment rate is 4.9.

Johnson owns the record for lowest unemployment average at 4.2

Ford and Reagan own the highest average at 7.8 and 7.5.

Here's a good article on that:
http://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president

So what's a good number for Trump? Dunno, but if his economic policies are gonna at 10 trillion to the national debt...well....I dunno.

The deficit will continue to increase. Repealing the ACA will add 1.5 trillion, his economic policies another 10 trillion. The wall, if it's even built, will add at least another 25 billion.

Recession.....maybe.

If they don't offer a viable solution, then expect less people covered with higher rates because corporations just got the leash taken off.

Obama has 75 straight months of job growth. I don't see trump continuing that success.

Notice tho I predict you lose in 4 years as most folks, both Republican and Dem, don't want to be run by the Christian right.

Obama's chicken jobs. The worst and slowest recovery in history. Average 2.4 percent growth.

Reagan inherited Carters mess and fixed it with 4-6 percent growth.

Only conservatives can complain about a slow recovery after wrecking our economy.

Face it, you just can't accept the fact that a black man had to clean up your mess.

I can take what you predict, add $5 bucks to it and get a coffee at starbucks!

Didn't Carter inherit Nixon & Ford's mess?

Not even with a 10 foot poll would I touch that one!

I don't go to Starbucks. I'll use the $5 for a used record. Preferably one from a lefty or militant group singing about how we need to resist the Right, and in particular, the far right/Christian zealot.

"For god sake, bring the power to the people"!!

Don't mess with Ford, he is the only President we ever had who was never elected President or Vice President! Respect for pulling that one off.

Just remember, in the end, it will be the Christian Zealots who bring the weenies to your roast.

I don't know. Some Jews could bring Nathans.

"Weenies"? Is that because your political savior has little hands?

Hey northlima, good thread!

Oh goodie, goodie , goodie, I love playing games.



Where will we be in 4 years with Trump and his picks with control of both houses and the court?

Hopefully we’ll be here in the United States, in our homes. His picks?


Where will the unemployment rate be?

It will be lower.


Will more jobs be created than the last 4 years of Obama?

Yes.

Will he get trolled into a war with North Korea, China, Iran, etc?

No.

Will the stock market be higher than it is today-19,850?

Yes.

Will we enter a recession/depression?

No.

Will the deficit keep increasing?

No.

What will health insurance be like? Will it keep increasing in cost much faster than the rate of inflation?

Yes.

And then the wedge issues? Comment on whatever comes to mind.

No comment.

Retirement in the tropics...yippeee!

#Highroad...thank you Michelle Obama.

Hey rockyhill...you forgot to add a photo of the board game 'Risk'.

Trump's inexperience and dangerously reckless attitude towards intelligence agencies and foreign policy will have all of us sitting on the brink and countries stockpiling their armies/weaponry.

Quote from PDX:

“Hey rockyhill...you forgot to add a photo of the board game 'Risk'”

No I didn’t:



(Next to Battleship.)


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Damn shame he did a lousy job of it.

I can accept the fact that George Bush spent the better part of his presidency cleaning up Clinton's mess though.

Obama added over 9 trillion our debt, you didn't seem to care. Trump wants to spend 24 billion and you have a problem with this.

I'll just say going into the next 4 years we better party like it's 1999.

Trump will destroy the entire world's economy, pull off the biggest heist of American tax payer money in history and bring us to the brink if not fully into nuclear war.

I have zero faith in this man's ability to tie his own shoes, let alone lead the world's most powerful nation.

The ONLY positive note will be getting to watch 40 eat his words.

j/c:

Another thread where everyone is open-minded and fair.

I had to get off and get back to work and now I am finally home and waiting for our IT guy to let me into the system so I can finish another 12 hour day. But I will play my own game.

[color:#FF0000]There are wedge issues like womens rights, abortions rights, planned parenthood, LGBT equal rights which are going get revised; it comes with the party. I am wondering what Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare are going to look like in a few years and how the people of this country respond.

Greater restrictions on abortion, trickle down economic farces that show no meaningful economic growth, and a vocal minority voice. Democrats will control the House and Senate in four years.



A few more employed, but the jobs will lack benefits.



Yes, but I doubt many of them will make a living wage, or receive decent benefits.



I don't think so. He can't be that dumb.



Around the same.



Stagnant.



Of course. Shift spending from one area to another, and not ramp income tax back to where it was.



We will have a single payer system in at least six years. Trump and Co. with their wonky "reform" of the ACA will point the American public towards the public option.



February starts a more progressive democratic party, and a better willingness to educate voters. Maybe a few measures of social progress get rolled back, but I don't see it being too worse.

In four years I see Tulsi Gabbard as President of The United States with either Corey Booker, Keith Ellison, or Elizabeth Warren as the vice president.

I agree with you that Trump is going to try and force some things through that are going to drive Republicans absolutely bonkers. It will be interesting to see who wins in those cases.

The Republicans already put together a tax plan, and Trump said that it was still too unnecessarily complicated. I think that he is going to butt heads with everyone from tie to time. Maybe that will be a good thing. Who knows? What we have been doing hasn't been working.

As far as the unemployment rate, it wouldn't surprise me to have jobs created, and having the rate go up anyway, as more people return to the labor force. I don't think that Obama has done at all well in this regard. When we hit bottom after the 2008-9 recession, the only way to go was up, as far as jobs are concerned. Businesses had cut well into the bone, and they necessarily had to add labor if they grew at all. Further, there is a lot more part time work these days, instead of full time workers. One person working new 2 part time jobs worked as 2 new jobs. I wish we had a way of better judging the labor force by using full time labor, and jobs that pay well above minimum wage. I bet most people would be shocked at what the true un/underemployed rate.

As far as the rest ....who knows. Heck, I'm just guessing on these, and am choosing to be positive.

Check out: unemployment, u3, u5, and u6.

Just as gov't. is "allowed" to keep 3 or more sets of financial books, gov't. also has at least 3 different unemployment rates. Guess which one gets reported?

At (or near) where we find them now. Growth will stagnate, but not because of '1600 Penn' leadership. It will stagnate because of market forces and momentum trends that aren't set up to sustain long-term economic growth. We don't have an infrastructure in-place that's set-up to handle what is about to come.


Right where it is at present... give or take .1-.3 seasonal points, and .1-.3 seasonal/yearly points.


in 2 years.... right about where we find it at present. In 4 years? Who could possibly say?



It's possible.... but I pray not. If he won't, it will be because his cabinet prevails upon him to listen to them... since he's already shown that he's unwilling/reluctant to listen to (an historically non-partisan) Intelligence Community. Everything will be hinged upon what he's told- and if he believes what he hears from those whom he trusts. This one scares me above all others, because my personal profile of the man suggests that he's more reckless than cautious.



Guess: lower. World Investment Markets don't like uncertainty, and D.Trump is the epitome of a worldwide 'wild card.' My predix: stocks won't plummet, but they will take a dive... by 1K - 2k points... and work their azzes off to slowly regain the numbers we now see.



I predict that health care will move substantially toward the original 'single payer model'... and that the R's will do their best to claim it as their own. They will take the best that they can craft, move some pieces around, sign it into law, slap a label like 'TrumpCare' on it... and attempt to claim it for their own. It's the easiest, cheapest way to 'make a change' without substantially changing a thing. In short: they'll do exactly what the Dems wanted to do in 2008. They'll slap their names upon it- and claim that it was theirs from the start. It will become some mutated version of 'Obamacare' with Trump's name slapped on it. Because that's how politics works.




We could.... but I'm not ready to predict such a thing. Too many market variables determine such a thing. Depends on what Trump decides to do, from moment to moment. (It's one of the reasons I voted for 'H-Dogg' instead of DT... my investments would have been much less volatile under her....)



The 'wedge issues' will take a back seat, as Dems re-align themselves with the Blue-collar base that they lost. There will be a resurgence of unionism, 'Middle-Class Values".... and a groundswell of center-left populism that was initiated by Bernie in 2016.

This has happened time and again in our nation's history.
I've seen nothing in my 45+ years of cognizant American life on this planet that suggests that we won't break with longstanding convention.

Our nation's arc has always swung on a pendulum...
...but that arc has always swung toward progress...

...just as MLK told us, back in the early 60's..
And Darwin's Theory suggested, 2 generations before Martin

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I hereby predict:
Donald Trump will not complete 4 years as POTUS.
He will be expelled by:

A coalition of R's and D's who seek his downfall.
A fatal, ham-fisted international 'faux-pas,' which un-does him.
An impeachment, based upon his own lack of competence.
A series of 'conflicts of interest' that will disqualify him from Jump Street.

I will not make any predictions.

However, I hope that our president does a good job in running our country because that is what is best for the country.

I will support this president just like I supported President Obama because what is good for our country is also good for my family.

I refuse to wish ill on our new president just as I did w/our former presidents.

I will keep an open mind and evaluate each move as it occurs rather than being tied to a side.

I will continue to look down my metaphorical intellectual nose at all those who choose a side and refuse to judge a person fairly.

Let me ask



Dang it I don't know if I bought a Democratic or a Republican Magic Eight Ball.

I'm expecting Trump to be extreme right. I think the infrastructure plan was a lie and won't happen. People who believe that are as gullible as his voters. He *might* get paid family leave through, but that's the only left policy he will enable. I don't understand why people say he's centrist. There will be nothing left policy wise under his administration.

I can't. I never figured Americans would fall for Trump. Never in a million years did I ever believe that would happen.

So for me to predict is just a waste of my time, But I'll read your predictions.

Anyone, and I mean anyone of us that think electing a president who hates more than half of those he governs, are idiots..

On a recent Family Feud the question was "We surveyed 100 men 'When was the last time you cried in public?'"

If republicans dont get healthcare right they will be voted out.

Low cost healthcare for everyone or you are GONE.