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I remember hearing it, but couldn't find it. It doesn't appear to be in any of the written transcripts, though I haven't checked the ones earlier in the season. I was going through the videos that didn't have the transcript written, and didn't hear it there either. Those were rather depressing.

I wonder if the Browns took it down? Not a very reassuring thought to me if they are seeing a franchise QB and are trying to hide it.

Yup, for a crappy team's first next year, and not past seven. It could look something like this:

Your score is: 10840 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 7 (LAC): Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio State (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: [censored] Tabor, CB, Florida (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan (A)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: David Sharpe, OG, Florida (B+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Garrett Sickels, DE, Penn State (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin (A)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (LAC)
2019 Round 1 Pick

I'd take that draft in a heartbeat.

SF yes, #2 and a 2nd this year or next.
Chicago yes - #3 and next year's first would be enough, but I'd certainly take more.
Jacksonville yes, #4, 2018 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
Tennessee yes, #5 and #18, plus a pick next year in the 20-50 range.

Beyond that, no.

LAC threw me off. That is the Clippers, not the Chargers.

lol Gonna be hard to get used to. Also, it's funny Te ez gets censored.

NFL analysts chime in on the best QB in the draft:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...b-on-your-board

2 go for Kizer, 2 for Mitch and 1 for Watson. The venerable Gil Brandt goes with Mitch.

Grimm, Fair enough. Though I will say this. I don't know if you're one of us who watches a lot of tape but I'm not concerned with Garrett's motor like some are. If you are not concerned with his motor don't be concernEd with mcdowells. Mcdowell makes a lot more plays in pursuit or down the line than garrett does.

Your score is: 9521 (GRADE: B-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Jabrill Peppers, SS/OLB, Michigan (B+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy (B)
Round 3 Pick 1: Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Blake Jarwin, TE, Oklahoma State (B)

need to do another one...not thrilled I picked Watson

im not thrilled you picked peppers #1 overall.

there would be riots in the streets.

lol Swish I went with what was supposed to be the "best value" player to see what would happen...doing another one with what I what do personally...should be vastly different.

Your score is: 9115 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 2 (S.F.): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A-)
Round 5 Pick 32: Carlos Henderson, WR, Louisiana Tech (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas (A-)

ok this is what I wanted to do vs "best value"...forgot to trade up again to get Hooker darn it.

I am going to have to start a "mock draft" this is too fun...off topic i know, but this next one took almost everything to get the three guys I want the most lol wow..my other two drafts scored alot higher...but this one was the funnest

Your score is: 8557 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 2 (S.F.): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M (A)
Round 5 Pick 32: Aarion Penton, CB, Missouri (B-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Carlos Henderson, WR, Louisiana Tech (A)

Here is a crazy draft I thought was fun!!! The main idea was to collect as many 2nd round and first round picks as I could. I got 3 first round picks and 7 !!!!!! second rounders. That is a lot of talent to pick up!

Your score is: 9549 (GRADE: B-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 1 Pick 17 (WASH): Garett Bolles, OT, Utah (B-)
Round 1 Pick 19 (T.B.): Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (B+)
Round 2 Pick 7 (NYJ): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 12 (BUF): David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A-)
Round 2 Pick 13 (ARI): Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 15 (BALT): Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (A)
Round 2 Pick 16 (IND): JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A)
Round 2 Pick 23 (NYG): Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (B)
Round 3 Pick 23 (NYG): David Sharpe, OG, Florida (B)

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lol that's crazy I like it.

Thanks! I think just about everyone in that draft would start or push to start on our team. I'm sad I didn't get garrett but for a complete upgrades all across the team I think it was worth it.

no I like it bro...I went the other way in trading up lol and only drafted six players but five of those I think would be instant starters filing at least five holes in one shot...but I like your take on it as well...well done

Peppers #1? Maybe if we wanted a defenseless Steeler fan sucker punched after a game

not a fan...but J. Harrison eh..another story

Dude, I love James Harrison. Dude is the poster boy of what a football player should be. He spends a ton of money on keeping himself in shape. He plays hard. He defies age. He is not dirty, but he will kick your ass if he is able to.

Dude is the ultimate professional.

lol you love em, I hate em...just my opinion...great player sure...cheap shot king to me tho...again just my take on him. HOFmer for sure...still hate em tho

plus he is a steeler...seals the deal for me...lol...yea I maybe a tad biased on this one

I get where you are coming from.

It's cool, dawg.

Another day another great draft at the expense of letting garrett go. Got my personal best score with this one too.

Your score is: 11057 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 7 (LAC): Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 1 Pick 18 (TENN): Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9 (CINN): Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (B+)
Round 2 Pick 13 (ARI): Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A)
Round 3 Pick 9 (CINN): Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A)
Round 4 Pick 13 (ARI): Nico Siragusa, OG, San Diego State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 13 (ARI): Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (LAC)
2019 Round 1 Pick

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As you can see I got us another 1st round pick for 2018! woot! Having two first round picks next year puts us in a nice spot if Trub doesn't work out or there is a player we GOTTA have =)

I got 6 probable starters at DT, DE, CB, QB, RT, and C. Granted QB might not start year one but no doubt he would end up being our franchise QB for better or worse. I like that there is a good balance of players for both sides of the ball. Defense would gain the most in this draft though and it would be a big gain.

What you guys think?

Your score is: 11525 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4 (JAX): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: [censored] Tabor, CB, Florida (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 3 (JAX): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 4 Pick 3 (JAX): Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 4 (JAX): Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (A)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (JAX)
2019 Round 1 Pick

Daniel Jeremiah Mock 1.0:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...s-fill-qb-needs

Browns picks:



Now without debating his picks, here are some guys would be available at 33 - who do you take?

Robinson OT
Peppers SS/LB
Tankersley CB
Humphrey CB
Brantley DT
Mahones II QB
Schuster-Smith WR
Cunningham ILB/OLB

Lots more, obviously.

IMO if Garret is the best player in this draft, or should I say the most talented, then take him. Don't trade down, don't get sucked in by a QB that may have a good workout, take him. This is what we need to start doing with our picks. We have good supporting players now get the impact guys.

Robinson, if he's there to solidify the right side. Assuming his off-field issues are behind him. Or Humphrey, maybe Peppers. Garrett, Cook & Robinson or Humphrey would be a good start. Kaaya or Mahomes in the third?

Really?!



They change the damn rules to accomodate this ape. Remember spearing? "Any opponent using the crown of his helmet to butt, ram, or spear an opponent. 15 yards and possibility of ejection."



This was still in the published NFL rulebook in 2011. In fact, it's still on their website. But if you look at the version updated since then, they quietly removed this one then to much fanfare added the rules that says if you are a receiver who can't protect yourself you can't get hit like this WHICH WAS ALREADY ILLEGAL.



Here's another one, launching crown of helmet into another player's helmet.



Here are some other rules he's broken with dirty hits on Browns players:

15 Yards (and disqualification if flagrant)

Striking opponent on head or neck with forearm, elbow, or hands whether or not the initial contact is made below the neck area.







He even signed this picture of this illegal hit.
Classy, Professional




http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5699976




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You want to admire his work ethic and conditioning? Fine. But he's a dirty POS who should have been out of the league a long damn time ago.

You must have hated football when guys like Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, Dick Butkus, Mike Curtis, Reggie White, Ray Nitsche, etc played.

If you want to like dirty players that's fine. But let's call a spade a spade. You said he wasn't dirty when he's one of the five dirtiest players in the league.

Burfict, Suh, Incongnito... not sure who else even comes close.

I disagree. Sorry.

Strange that I would take every single one of those players listed as dirty on the Browns, right now.

Non-sequitur. My reply was to the statement that Harrison was "not dirty."

So Peppers and Boulware?

Hasn't Cook had off-field issues, and several fairly major injuries?

All played within the rules of the game. Didn't get special treatment for doing what most other defensive players were getting flagged for.

This might be my favorite non-trade draft yet.

Your score is: 10591 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Forrest Lamp, OG, Western Kentucky (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Tanzel Smart, DT, Tulane (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+)

I don't think Kizer, Watson or Trubisky will last till the 20th pick of the 2nd round

I'm not a fan of picking him up as we have bigger holes but Jeremiah is more qualified than myself My post was more to share another view and to ask who folk would want of the remaining players at 33.

I think I'd go for Peppers as Williams' hybrid safety/LB guy.

Probably not, but I also think there is a crap-ton of hype right now that has the QBs rated high. Having said that, if say Kizer is the guy they want, they should take him whenever they feel the need, whether that's 1, 12 or 33. If none of the top three measure up, then draft BPA and go for Kaaya or Mahomes later. If done right, this could be the type of draft that could help fix a lot of problems. JMHO