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Cole: Browns, 49ers could be destination in trade for Kirk Cousins

According to Jason Cole of Bleacher Report, the Cleveland Browns and the San Francisco 49ers are viewed as potential destinations for Kirk Cousins if the Washington Redskins were to trade him. Note: In order for a trade to even be a possibility, the Redskins would have to franchise tag him first.

Here is exactly what Cole said via his Washington source:

A Washington source indicated that are willing to weigh their options this offseason with quarterback Kirk Cousins, including the possibility of trading him with either San Francisco or Cleveland being the most likely destinations. The 49ers would chase Cousins once they hire Kyle Shanahan, and perhaps include the No. 2 overall pick in the deal. The Browns also have interest, and Cousins played in the Hue Jackson offense under Jay Gruden.

There are already a bunch of scenarios the Browns could take at quarterback next year, so I guess throwing one more person into the mix won’t hurt anyone, right?

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/1/23/1...or-kirk-cousins

Personally, if we are going to trade for a QB, I think I'd prefer Garoppolo over Cousins.

Can we call him Kirky C?

just taking the Browns out of the mix for a moment....why on Earth would the Redskins get rid of Cousins?

They didn't miss the playoffs because of Cousins. they missed the playoffs because their defense is trash.

they have a good QB who in a few years might go into elite category, and for what? to get the #2 overall and take a question mark?

i get drafting a QB if you don't already have one. but they have one. this makes absolutely no sense.

They might not want to pay him what he wants. I believe this was an issue between the two parties last year as well.

The # 2 overall pick???

I don't rule out the fact that the Redskins' camp could have thrown Jason Cole a news story bone and at the same time attempt to scare the hell out of the Cousin's camp that he could possibly be going to one of two bad teams right now.

IMO, they could want to do what we should do.....Draft the best D on the board and fix their Defense. I hope we don't use the #1 on a QB, just draft D.

man...when you finally find the guy, you have to pay him. i get that nobody wants to give up Andrew Luck money, because they are screwed for the foreseeable future, but damn....pay the man.

i feel you, but that still doesn't make sense on their part.

give up a top 10 QB in order to draft someone on defense that they have no clue is gonna actually be good or not?

this is what happens when you have an FO/ownership group who wants to be cheap asses.

What would it take to get him? Would #12, next years 1, our 2nd 2nd round pick this year and our 2nd 2nd round pick next year get it done?

Yes. Anyone would accept that overspending.

I agree with you 100% bud. A starting QB should get starting QB money. If the QB is smart they will do like Tom Brady and take less money so the team can afford a better support cast but not many QB are willing to do that on their first FA contract.

If the Redskins are dumb enough to trade him, the Browns should be first in line.

I would not want to give up the draft pick compensation required to get up Cousins AND pay him like a top five QB (I probably wouldn't want to do either).

I would just feel too bad for RG3 to have it happen to him all over again to make that trade.

If the redskins franchise him, we could still sign him for two 1st rounders right?
Then why would we trade more than that?

lol bro what if, in bizarro world, they trade with us in exchange for a 2nd round pick and RG3 hahaha

I second this...

I would, also, although I'd take Cousins right now.

Then RG3 would find new and become a superstar while Kousins would have a career ending injury ... I mean thats how it normally works right =P

"No way in hell do I believe Cousins leaves Washington... sounds like a Dan Snyder negotiating ploy to me."


This.

My vote for dumbest post of the year.

With that said, I agree w/Swish and others who aren't buying this story. Washington would be stupid to not keep one of the better QBs in the league. He is a two-year starter and is only going to get better.

Once you find a franchise QB, and make no mistake--Cousins truly is a franchise QB, you keep him.

I'm in agreement that this is all smoke an mirrors. It is a tool for negotiation probably started by his agent to create interests in Cousins. Let's try to drive his price up by creating suitors for his services. Let's also create a scenario where the franchise tag has to be used to max his 1 year earnings. This is garbage.

Is there anybody you'd spend money on that isn't a HOF lock?

Lots of guys. Not Kirk Cousins though.

If your read it close there must be a typo. Cleveland does not have the #2 pick.

You think the agent started those rumors? Did you read the article?

I highly doubt they trade Cousins and roll with Colt McCoy. Even if we trade our #12 pick for him and they went with one of the top 3 QB's this years draft, that would be ummm...not so smart on their part...but I would and we would win that trade scenario.

rather have him then Jimmy G...but I dont see that happening tho.

Kirk Cousins is a quality QB, despite the uneducated opinions of one of our posters.

He has ranked 6th in QBR the past two years. he is ranked above guys like Carr, Big Ben, Stafford, Wilson, Rivers, etc and guys like Ryan and Brees in one of the two years.You can view that here: http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr


If you don't like QBR, Cousins has a 97.2 rating this year and a 101.6 rating last year.

He threw for 4,917 yards this year and 4,166 yards last year.

He threw 25 TDs this year and 29 last year as opposed to 12 picks this year and 11 last year.

He took a team that was floundering w/RGIII to the playoffs last year and to the brink of the playoffs this year.

Anyone NOT wanting him is not being objective and simply talking out of their behinds.

haha If he runs down our tunnel screaming "DO YOU LIKE THAT HUH? DO YOU LIKE THAT"

i would say ..."why yes I do" lol

Call me the extremist but id listen to deals including #1

I don't think Cousins is bad, but I don't think it is wise to pay top five QB money for a guy that is not a top five QB. Paying a guy that much inhibits what you will be able to do with the rest of your team (see: Flacco; Joe).

Off the top of my head I would definitely take nine QBs over him (Rodgers, Brady, Roethlisberger, Luck, Rivers, Carr, Newton, Ryan, and Brees).

I guess I would backtrack and say that if Cousins were a true free agent, I would go after him. But because we would have to trade high draft picks for him and pay him, I don't think it is even an option.

(Also, like others have said, I don't think he is even available. Washington basically has to re-sign him.)

You aren't factoring in age into your qb evaluations. Would you really give big money and long-term contracts to guys like Brees?

And how in the world would you rank Cam over Cousins?

sorry bro,

I must be missing something.

I keep hearing top five money...Is that what he is currently making?

Or is it what it would take to get him?

Mind you I am not a football intellect by any means, just a die hard fan.

so I just dont keep up on that stuff. I could tell you 100% who is a Brown and our history.

but about 2% on who is on any other team lol.

I did... and agents to this stuff all of the time. These deals can't be negotiated without the agent's involvement. The source is close to Washington.. and can be masked as "someone close to the organization" or in this case.. A Washington source. No specifics on who the source is ( as in the organization or associated with the organization). Everyone is testing the waters right now.

Contract negotiation are fierce eh?

Charger (& Brownaholic), I don't think it's a typo. The first post suggests that the 49ers would be Washington's most likely suitor, with Browns also in the mix. When Swish referred to the 2nd pick, he was talking about a possible Wash-SF trade, as I read it.

Yes... he has some quality to his play. But is he worth first round pick consideration. Is he worth top 5 money? Stats are great (including QBR)... but is he really elevating his team? Has he reached his ceiling as a player? Does he fit our system (will he maximize the system's effectiveness)? Can he take over a game and will a team to win?

If elevates his team and has a higher ceiling, then I would consider a "way" late first / second round pick. But not for top 5 money.

However, in this case, I wouldn't trade for him and surrender a top 15 for him. I believe there are some players (and Qbs) in this draft that can have a higher ceiling than Cousins when developed.