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Browns personnel staff secretary and assistant said that the entire coaching and scouting dept. convenes after the senior bowl for a meeting headed by Depodesta to discuss how to avoid putting too much weight in familiarity and direct observation at the senior bowl as to not unduly bias evaluations toward senior bowl prospects over others. This year that meeting will be more extensive.

Jamal Adams is a consensus top 4 prospect

People think Jonathan Allen will fall in the draft b/c people are going to reach for traditional skill positions in the top 10 and many don't see his impact in the 43 as much as has been speculated.

That's how we end up drafting a GIlbert in the top 10

That's how we end up drafting a GIlbert in the top 10

All I am saying is that we have had FOs make a lot of mistakes because they were too lazy to do their due diligence. What we decide to do throughout the draft is built off that #1 overall pick. If Garrett is supposed to be the best player, he is the one you start with and do the most work on. You don't wait until last minute to finish your evaluation on him. Because if you find something that raises an eyebrow then you need time to investigate it. And if that raised eyebrow turns into something real, then you have to re-work your whole draft strategy.

It's one thing to not trade down but to think this front office would trade up is probably a waste of your time. The numbers just don't add up

It's one thing to not trade down but to think this front office would trade up is probably a waste of your time. The numbers just don't add up


What numbers?

I think he is talking about analytics. Isn't the idea to accumulate more draft picks rather than trading them away?

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Sorry, I don't think Kessler is it. You can't fix arm strength.

He is a good guy to have on the team. He will probably carve out a nice NFL career, playing for about as long as he wants to play.

He is a decent game manager and isn't going to lose many games doing stupid stuff. A perfect back-up. Much like Josh who has carved out a nice NFL career.

That's simply not true. You can definately improve arm strength. footwork, throwing technique, and certain exercises can definately improve how the ball is thrown. You won't fix it overnight but it can definately be improved.

I agree. These guys have been coached. They have great training programs. A few things can and will be tweaked, but the improvement of arm strength is going to be minimal.

Look at MLB pitchers. Why do we have pitchers who top out in the 100s and others who top out in the 80s if improving arm strength was so easy to do?

I have used the baseball analogy several times when discussing the topic. It just can't happen. Period.

What ought to be examined more is where these hard throwers are coming from. Some people have long been aware that average velocities are on the rise, but few have paused to consider how startling that is, given how quickly this has happened. I’ll repeat: there are three times as many hard throwers now as there were just six or seven years ago. Trends in baseball don’t happen that fast, and it’s not like teams are more selective for pitchers who throw hard. People in the game have always valued heat, probably too much. Hard throwers have always gotten priority. Now there are a lot more of them, on just about every staff.

Part of the explanation, I imagine, has to do with improvements in weight training and workout regimens, all the way down to high school and below. Maybe there’s greater understanding now of pitching mechanics. And an element is probably improvements in keeping professional pitchers healthy. It could be that hard throwers were always present in great numbers, but they used to get hurt more. At least, that could be a part of it. Never bet against progress when you’re dealing with such a profitable industry.