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I can't speak for Vers, but one of the reasons I said he wasn't worth the 1st pick was his own team let him walk for nothing in return. Although 2006 was really poor talent wise in hindsight I don't see how you can call a guy #1 pick worthy when not only the drafted him let him walk for nothing, but the team who signed him afterwards cut him as well.

He was a really good player, but if Garret has a similar career most here will not be happy. Good news is Garret is WAAY better than Mario...I hope..lol.

Because the cap! Ndamukong Suh basically did the same thing and was #2 pick overall. He walked from the Lions who couldn't afford to pay him market rate. Does that make him a bust?

Mario Williams is now considered a failed draft pick?

I've officially seen it all on this board. Never considered a top 5 DE? Seriously?

Mario Williams until recently has been a defensive threat that causes offenses to change because of him. If that's not worth a #1 pick, I dunno what it.

What, you mean to say that they will show an omission of quilt?

Incorrect hyperbole. Only about 14 or so players drafted overall number one are in the HOF - some of which were QBs. Sorry.

I found that a bit bit crazy myself.

steve, I wasn't taking sides. I barely read it. I just feel that if you draft a guy that high and he isn't on your team and you get no compensation for him, than it was a failed pick.

I apologize if I was unclear.

The arm strength thing isn't even debatable. There are a ton of smart QBs who worked their butts off, but they just didn't have the arm. Ken Dorsey is a prime example. There are a couple of guys just flexing their internet muscles rather than using logic.

Agree with this.
Vers, I can't agree with your premise that Mario was a failed pick. We're Browns fans , we KNOW what a failed pick looks like.

No problem, bro.

Oh they wouldn't show it and would never admit that was the reason... they would say they didn't want Wentz... QB [insert name here] is the guy they were targeting all along.. blahblahblah.. it worked out exactly as they had hoped..

J/c

I hope the FO has enough courage in their convictions that they are following a plan and not making decisions based on fan/media reaction.

I am not worried about their " courage or convictions " it is their ability ! lol

no, it means they were horrible at managing their cap.

the year they had to let Williams walk, they had 15% of their cap tied up in dead money. Williams got a huge contract. There was nothing wrong with the player, so there was nothing wrong with the pick. Bad cap management doesn't make a draft pick a bust. Your argument is a non-sequitur.

Mario Williams played for the Texans for six seasons. When healthy he was very good. He was totally worth the #1 overall pick (especially when you consider the other two options were Reggie Bush and Vince Young).

If we drafted Garrett first overall and he had the exact same six years that Williams had, I would be very happy with the pick.

I believe your expectations for what you are getting out of the first overall pick are a little out of whack. There have been five non-QBs (Courtney Brown, Williams, Jake Long, Eric Fisher, and Jadeveon Clowney) selected since 1999, Williams is clearly the best and it's not close (although Clowney is gaining on him fast).

Depending on where you live and what you keep your thermostat set at, an omission of quilt can cause some pretty chilly nights.

Yes I am human (admission)

Because this happened a few short years ago:

EJ Manuel
Geno Smith
Mike Glennon
Matt Barkley
Ryan Nassib
Tyler Wilson
Landry Jones
Brad Sorensen
Zac Dysert
B.J. Daniels
Sean Renfree

+1. Look at all those stud QBs, makes you want to remember- Mr. Johnny Football, Weeden, Quinn, Frye,etc,etc, etc. Damn, we've done great job picking Qbs.....WOW, how we've wasted picks on Qbs.....Go Browns!!!

No fishing trip with pops??

Myles Garrett isn’t planning to attend the draft

Posted by Josh Alper on February 10, 2017, 1:29 PM EST

It’s not hard to find mock drafts that predict defensive end Myles Garrett will be the first overall pick in Philadelphia in April, but it looks like it will be hard to find Garrett among the draft prospects in attendance for the opening night of the process.

Brent Zwerneman of the Houston Chronicle reports that Garrett is not planning to attend the draft, which kicks off on April 27. Garrett intends to watch the draft at home in Arlington, Texas with his parents and other family members and tells Zwerneman that nothing will get him to change his mind.

Garrett’s desire to stay at home rather than sample a cheesesteak, run the steps like Rocky and shake Roger Goodell’s hand won’t have any impact on where the Texas A&M product is going to be drafted. His skills as a pass rusher and ability to disrupt opposing offenses is what’s going to be important to teams and Garrett’s shown enough on both fronts to ensure he won’t be around into the second hour of the draft barring a real curveball in the next couple of months.

If Garrett does go first, he’ll be the first Texas A&M player to come off the board that early and it would break a string of two straight years with a quarterback being taken with the top pick.

Well, I do like our history of first round draft picks that weren't present at the draft ...

I came to post and say the exact same thing !

Projected No. 1 pick Garrett has a message for Jerry Jones Former Texas A&M star Myles Garrett says he'd love to play in Dallas and makes a plea to Cowboys' management to trade up to select him.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/18661161

This is the most accurate on Williams and the Texans... he was let go because of the cap mainly.. smith didn't want to pay him big money especially coming off two years of being hurt... and they just drafted JJ who was the future of their defenders... Williams didn't fit into their new defensive scheme as well since they switched him to LBer but the main reason he walked from the Texans was money... he was very good for them for the years he was there.

I am trying to take my heart of of it, but I can't see this as anything but immature.....

They are drafting 28th....even if we wanted Romo, it would take 3 first round picks to get from 28 to 1. This was clearly not thought out well.

I think it's definitely a bad look for him.

Does the word "maturity" appear in any of his scouting reports?

He wants to play for his home town team. Big deal.

This is a non-story.

Myles Garrett shows Browns some love, but says he wants Cowboys to trade up for him in draft


By NATE ULRICH Published: February 10, 2017

Texas A&M defensive end Myles Garrett has been universally labeled by draft analysts as the front-runner to be picked first overall by the Browns on April 27, but apparently he has a different fantasy.


In a video published Friday on ESPN.com, Garrett begged Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to make a blockbuster trade with the Browns so he can play for the Cowboys, who have the 28th overall pick coming off a 13-3 season in which quarterback Dak Prescott thrived as a rookie with veteran Tony Romo idle.


Garrett is a native of Arlington, Texas.


"I'm talking to you, Jerry," Garrett said. "Mr. [coach Jason] Garrett, make it happen. Dak Prescott is leading our team right now. I need you to take Tony Romo, take a couple picks and give them to Cleveland so you can pick me up. Please. I'd love to play in Dallas. Just make it happen."


For what it's worth, Garrett told the Houston Chronicle the Browns are his second favorite team, after his hometown Cowboys.


"They have the No. 1 pick," he said Friday of the Browns. "I want to be known as the best."


According to Houston TV Station FOX 26, Garrett also said Thursday he would love to play for the Browns, who set a franchise record for losses last season and finished 1-15.


"Definitely," Garrett said in a video by FOX 26. "People might say they're this, they're that or I made a comment about cold weather and they kind of put it toward Cleveland. It doesn't matter to me. I'll play wherever they put me, and it's about your mindset. If you go out there with a mindset that you're going to turn things around, you can make that contagious and people start to believe in it, you can turn into a winning program wherever you go."


In late December, when it was still uncertain whether the Browns or San Francisco 49ers would have the No. 1 overall pick, Garrett told the Houston Chronicle he would not want to play in a cold-weather city.


"Doesn't matter [which team gets the No. 1 overall pick] but I'd like not to go anywhere cold," Garrett said. "Whoever picks me up, I'm going to try and play my best for, to be the best player on the field at any given time. It doesn't matter who picks me up, I'm going to try and be a franchise player for them."


No matter which team picks Garrett on April 27, he doesn't plan to attend the draft in Philadelphia. He told the Houston Chronicle on Friday he instead wants to watch the draft at home with his friends and family.


It's not unprecedented for a top pick to stay home on draft day.


Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston didn't attend the draft when he was picked No. 1 overall in 2015.

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-...draft-1.746663

It's definitely not a non story. I wouldn't call it a red flag either but it's something he needs to answer for, this was not thought out well.


With that said, I say the same thing about Garret as I did Eli Manning back in the day.....I don't care where you want to play, I am drafting you, sit out if you dare.

Sorry I fell for ESPN click bait.

Non-story.

LOL that doesn't make it a non story.

It's February 10th. No one has anything to talk about besides Charles Oakley. This is not news, this is a player talking and saying he wants to play his hometown team.

This is hilarious.

https://theringer.com/myles-garrett-is-a-poet-texas-a-m-49dd3a466fa9

He is just a kid wanting to play for "his" team.

I don't read anything more in to that.

You're crazy. He's just a kid wanting to go to "his" team. I find nothing wrong with that. I'd bet at least evey player who knows thay are going to be drafted high hopes for this or that team to draft them. You start sinking to the late 4th round, you are grateful for whoever calls your name.

Myles Garrett is the best prospect in this draft.



End of story.

I admit it hurt the gut a little bit but who freaking cares. The guy loves his home football team. Who wouldn't. I do worry about resigning him in the future now though because he might want to give his hometown team a big discount to be able to play for them later. Who knows. At the worst we can have him for 7 years(5 rookie and two franchise). Sounds good to me =)

Who cares? I've seen Trubisky call the Browns his 'home town team' and I've seen no one comment on it either way.

I don't care where he wants to play... If he's our guy... Draft him...