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The wheels of this administration continue to come off one-by-one.

Flynn said he never negotiated or discussed Obama's sanctions against Russia, Pence also goes on tv saying he didn't now it comes out that he may well have done (and even told a senior officer that sanctions were discussed). Now Flynn says he can't "recall what was said in his meetings with Russia". Meanwhile Conway says Trump supports Flynn yet, an hour later Trump tells the press he is "evaluating" the situation. Now they say it is "fluid".

Flynn is our National Security Advisor.

Do these people really instill confidence?

Unbelievable.

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Flynn will probably be Trumps second, "You're Fired!"

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Flynn will probably be Trumps second, "You're Fired!"


Not even a month into the job. At this rate it won't be long before somebody says to Trump..."you're fired".

What an embarrassment.

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Quote:
can't "recall what was said


Haven't heard that phrase before...

Look, this is what we get when we hire a business man to do this job. We hired a guy who said he would bring jobs back to our country.

Will he? Don't know. Some things look good, others look like he took credit for things that were going to happen.

Whatever the case, he's a whopping 23 days into his presidency. The problem is, who's leaking this stuff? These conversations ought not be public this soon I don't think.


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It all depends on what your definition of "is", is.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
It all depends on what your definition of "is", is.


ISn't it? rofl


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the leak was cool when it was happening to the dems, remember?

so i'm enjoying the leaks. keep em coming.

conservatives sold us out to big business, yet somehow was complaining about special interest in washington.

well, we got pro russia, goldman sachs, big oil, big money, and people who straight up bought a cabinet position (Betsy Devos). and managed to [censored] off all of our allies, including Australia, which i wasn't even aware was possible to do.

but atleast we're cool with the kremlin, right?

what an awesome job you guys are doing. smh.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Enjoy yourself, its only America you root against.


Much to the contrary. I want America to be successful and respected. What we are increasingly seeing with this Administration is bumbling unprofessionalism and poor judgement. The rest of the world are laughing at us while being equally concerned for their own safety.

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Well you will be happy to know, Flynn, YOU'RE FIRED!

Its official. He resigned.

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This admin just seems to be in disarray. This guy was our National Security Advisor!

I mean we are talking...this is at the highest level and we are not even one month into his admin. Incredible.

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Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
This admin just seems to be in disarray. This guy was our National Security Advisor!

I mean we are talking...this is at the highest level and we are not even one month into his admin. Incredible.


Your post here just shows you won't be happy no matter what. People were ticked about his appointment. Those same people are now ticked he quit.

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This administration isn't even a month old and is working out the kinks just like every new administration does.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
This administration isn't even a month old and is working out the kinks just like every new administration does.


rofl

In the first 3 weeks, the National Security Advisor being fired, endless internal leaks, executive orders being quashed by the courts etc. etc. seems more like the keystone kops than "working out a kink".

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I know you are overjoyed at this but it has verified Trumps assertions from the beginning that he did not trust the Intelligence community as leak after leak goes to the Press before it ever reaches the Presidents ear.

Subversion? Oh yea. Treason? Hmmmmmm

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I know you are overjoyed at this but it has verified Trumps assertions from the beginning that he did not trust the Intelligence community as leak after leak goes to the Press before it ever reaches the Presidents ear.

Subversion? Oh yea. Treason? Hmmmmmm



No more overjoyed than you would be if this were happening to Obama's admin.

But, the leaks could well be coming from within his own cabinet as there has been reported infighting and distrust amongst people he appointed. If it indeed comes from the Intelligence perhaps he shouldn't have publicly disrespected the agency?

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Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
This admin just seems to be in disarray. This guy was our National Security Advisor!

I mean we are talking...this is at the highest level and we are not even one month into his admin. Incredible.


Your post here just shows you won't be happy no matter what. People were ticked about his appointment. Those same people are now ticked he quit.



Ummm, what? This makes no sense.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
This admin just seems to be in disarray. This guy was our National Security Advisor!

I mean we are talking...this is at the highest level and we are not even one month into his admin. Incredible.


Your post here just shows you won't be happy no matter what. People were ticked about his appointment. Those same people are now ticked he quit.



Or, instead of making excuses for this incompetence that is playing out before us maybe you can accept that this has been a disastrous 3 weeks for this new administration.

And no, while a man who boasted about sexual harassment and assault is our president I wont be happy.

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But you were ok with Clinton cheating on his wife and whoring himself around Washington?


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But you were ok with Clinton cheating on his wife and whoring himself around Washington?


Eve wins the prize. So predictable I knew one of you would make that comparison.

For the record. No I was not.

But, we are also not talking about Clinton...that was 20+ years ago. We are now talking about this admin. But, I also don't remember Clinton ever boasting about sexual assault or saying "when you are famous you can do whatever you want".

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I'm fairly certain I didn't make any excuses for anyone. So, if you could point out where I did, I would be very appreciative. Thanks in advance.

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Clinton treated women like sex objects. But apparently thats ok with you if it happened in the past. And it's not ok with you to discuss previous democratic presidents, because that would point out your hypocrisy. Got it.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Clinton treated women like sex objects. But apparently thats ok with you if it happened in the past. And it's not ok with you to discuss previous democratic presidents, because that would point out your hypocrisy. Got it.


Great SPIN job you did there. After some more firings take place there may be a job in this admin for you. At the rate we are going that job may be sooner than you think. Atlanta isn't too far from DC either.

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I only want Spicer's job because yelling at the press looks like fun. tongue


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I only want Spicer's job because yelling at the press looks like fun. tongue



That dude needs to start doing some mindfulness exercises or yoga because his stress levels seem like they are through the roof.

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This shakeup should be of concern to us all.

This position chairs the joint meetings of the Sec. of Def and Sec. of State.

This position controls and filters the flow of info to/from the POTUS to the 2 most influential people who oversee our international affairs.

And now, it's being 'temp'd' by the current Chief of Staff- forcing him to do two full-time jobs until his replacement is secured.

How well do any of us think Keith Kellogg is going to excel at this new full-time job? How well will he execute his duties as CoS, while he gets caught up on the latest international movements? How long will it take for Flynn's successor to get up to speed? Who will (s)he be?

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All politics aside, I've been watching this level of stuff happen on a regular basis since 1999.

Because I'm a Browns fan.



I'm really surprised that more of you haven't seen (or at least mentioned) the parallels... no matter WHO you voted for. It should be obvious to anyone who's watching: America is currently being run- by a typical Cleveland Browns front office.



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Flynn is our National Security Advisor.



He resigned... for better or worse? I don't know.

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40, who seen this coming? OCD that's who! lmao

Really though, Flynn is gone in less than a month, think about that. I can't remember a high level cabinet member being gone in less than two years in the past. He must of had more egg on his face than we know about for Trump to so easily accept this humiliation.

And it looks like at least some of the Russian stories had real teeth. Makes me wonder what other rumors are true.

I do have to hand it to Trump though, especially on his handling of the media; looks like he is going to be personally responsible for the return of real investigative reporting... wink

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jc...

The sweet talk for Russia coming from Trump and his surrogates was one of my greatest concerns with the election and the Republican candidate. I found it very odd that any serious Presidential candidate and his people would be so supportive of Russia and the talk of lifting the sanctions.

The reason Flynn resigned was because the FBI and the Justice department warned Trump that Flynn might be compromised by the Russians. We will never know everything that is in Flynn's file but there might be more than anyone might imagine. When security services uses the term, "might be compromised", it can cover a very large area of the individuals life and dealings. In the news it says Flynn lied about the subjects he had been discussing with the Russians. That may or may not have been why the security service felt Flynn was vulnerable to blackmail and had been compromised.

We are supposed to believe that Flynn was not acting on Trumps behalf..that he was not discussing an agenda with the Russians that Trump wanted to pursue.

JMHO, but Flynn is the fall guy and in no way, shape or form do I believe that Flynn was not pursuing Trumps agenda.

I don't know where this is heading, but I seriously doubt that Flynn's resignation is anywhere near the end of the situation with Russia. I wonder what Trump's vulnerability for compromise is, based on his past "business" dealings with Russia.

When it comes to the United States national security, their are no repubs or dems..and that is the way it must remain. Putin's Russia cannot be trusted and anyone who believes differently, is living in fantasy land.


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People are weird when it comes to politics. Just 3 weeks ago, we had an administration that wouldn't fire anyone, no matter what they did. Scandal after scandal happened in that admin, and everyone was employed. You couldn't kill enough vets, cops, boarder guards, or poison enough water to even be considered of having your job terminated. No lie was too big, and no scandal was too big either. Now I'm watching liberals overjoyed at the fact that Trump had to do what was right.

Flynn lied to the VP. What's that saying, it's not the crime it's the cover up? He should be out of a job.

So, let me see if I have this right. The obummer administration perpetuates a lie that is repeated by administration over and over, and that's ok with liberals. I'm talking about Susan Rice repeating the video lie about Benghazi. She got promoted. Hitlery Clinton lies directly to the families of those killed in Benghazi, and liberals would vote for her no matter what. The VA admin is caught in a scandal where vets died due to their lies, and the obummer admin wanted him to stay. He retired out of shame against the obummer admin's wishes. I honestly don't think someone in the obummer admin would have been fired if he molested one of obummer's daughters.

Liberals are going to be the death of this country.


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Obama's National Security Adviser spied on the American people and when questioned about it, lied to us all.

It took Trumps election to put him out of office.

There is nothing to celebrate here.

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Clinton treated women like sex objects. But apparently thats ok with you if it happened in the past. And it's not ok with you to discuss previous democratic presidents, because that would point out your hypocrisy. Got it.
Didnt he clearly say he was not OK with what Clinton did? But it has zero to do with what is going on now.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Obama's National Security Adviser spied on the American people and when questioned about it, lied to us all.

It took Trumps election to put him out of office.

There is nothing to celebrate here.
Maybe this all true, and it certainly is part of the reason that the president we have now won the election.

But does any of that have anything to do with what we have going on now?


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Clinton treated women like sex objects. But apparently thats ok with you if it happened in the past. And it's not ok with you to discuss previous democratic presidents, because that would point out your hypocrisy. Got it.


Hypocrisy works both ways. If you didn't like what Clinton did, then how can you support Trump?

Or were you perfectly ok with Clinton's transgressions so therefore, our crotch-grabbing POTUS is cool with you too?

What's worse is that Clinton did it while in office and did not have a widely-known publicized history before being elected. What he did in office was awful but it was already too late. If I personally would have known he was like this, no WAY I would have supported him.

We all KNEW Trump was a sexist PIG before being elected but instead of learning from Clinton's past, people supported and elected Trump anyway.

That is a MUCH worse form of hypocrisy.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Enjoy yourself, its only America you root against.


Now Now...I can remember not too long ago that many here were rooting for Obama to fail, but not necessarily for America to fail.

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Clinton treated women like sex objects. But apparently thats ok with you if it happened in the past. And it's not ok with you to discuss previous democratic presidents, because that would point out your hypocrisy. Got it.


Hypocrisy works both ways. If you didn't like what Clinton did, then how can you support Trump?

Or were you perfectly ok with Clinton's transgressions so therefore, our crotch-grabbing POTUS is cool with you too?

What's worse is that Clinton did it while in office and did not have a widely-known publicized history before being elected. What he did in office was awful but it was already too late. If I personally would have known he was like this, no WAY I would have supported him.

We all KNEW Trump was a sexist PIG before being elected but instead of learning from Clinton's past, people supported and elected Trump anyway.

That is a MUCH worse form of hypocrisy.








It's not hypocrisy because I don't complain about either of them unless the liberals start with their whining. Then I have to point it out.


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Donald Trump did rape a child though.

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I only want Spicer's job because yelling at the press looks like fun. tongue


Your watching too much SNL.


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I don't need to watch SNL because I watch real life as they keep preempting my soap with "Donald Trump News Breaks" It's starting to make me mad.

Yesterday no soap because Trump and Trudeau were playing kissy face.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I don't need to watch SNL because I watch real life as they keep preempting my soap with "Donald Trump News Breaks" It's starting to make me mad.

Yesterday no soap because Trump and Trudeau were playing kissy face.


True, the media doesn't need to be covering tweets from anyone anymore.


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