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I listened to the presser and he did indeed LIE his butt off....

Ok, but why is this news?

That the president is lying his ass off?

Are you seriously asking that question?

Seriously, He lied about something that he wasn't even asked about. He lied in order to make himself more important. He lied. What about that isn't news.. The president lied..

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/02...rcent/21715880/

I love bad ratings for Trump

Obama left us nearly 20 trillion in debt. EVERYTHING your citing is a mirage. My fianances and job creation would look great if i borrowed 15 billion per month, but the checks going to come due one day.

We are headed to the Greatest Depression in history and Obama's HORRID fiscal policy will be the cause of it. It takes a few years for all the Trillions he peed down the drain to come to a head.

The only thing Obama did for American was put every American into inescapable debt....every child born in the USA today is in debt 156,000 dollars the moment they take their first breath....thats hope and change you can believe in...(sarcasm)

Obama was a terrible President, Bush Jr was a Terrible President, Bill Clinton was a terrible President, and Trump may turn out to be a terrible President. Folks need to stop defending these clowns...Herbert Hoover was a better President then Obama, he promised a chicken in every pot when folks didn't even have a pot to cook a chicken in, but he didn't spend 12 trillion dollars down the drain spending away any future Americans would ever have for generations.

[quote=40YEARSWAITING]You are wrong as usual. I listened to what Trump said. Not Brietbart and Infowars. You apparently didn't listen to the Presser yourself.

He also said they had reached out to Cummings a couple of times with no response. He said Cummings was probably told by lightweight Schumer that it would not be good, politically, to meet with the President. He is looking to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus now.

It is a shame when your elected officials would rather play politics with Black lives t

Keep making stuff up,, It's ok

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-elijah-cummings-is-excited-about-meeting-trump/

It's all a lie!!! Don't believe the stats!! Believe me instead!!!

Nah, I'm good bro.

Spot on, I am sick of people bashing trump after 100 days...no idea how he's going to turn out, but man 8 years of Obama were the worst 8 years for a president i can remember, but it's ok because he's black and its wrong to question him..I could list tons of statements Obama was caught in a lie, or things he's done that's hurt this country.. Like getting us out of the war...75% of all soldiers killed died during his presidency.
The national debt increased more during Obama's first three years and two months than it did during all eight years of George W. Bush's presidency.

Although Obama had promised to prosecute Wall St. criminals, during his entire first term, his administration did not file any criminal charges against any of the top financial executives.

Renewed the unconstitutional Patriot Act

Or remember In 2011, after Boeing had hired 1,000 new employees to work at its new factory in South Carolina, the Obama administration ordered Boeing to shut down the factory, because the factory was non-union. Tell again how he's created jobs...

i could go on and on an on..i have 8 years worth of lies.. liberals are hilarous

(this is for Daman too)

I am. He lied about having the most Electoral votes ever? So what?

How much money is that out of your paycheck?
What Rights have you lost or have infringed?
Who has died or is in more danger because of that?

I'm not saying his lying or diarrhea of the mouth isn't a negative reflection of his character. It certainly is.

What I'm trying to wrap my head around is why what he claimed is such a huge when politicians and other presidents have lied about way worse, things that do impact people.

Pres Obama lied through his teeth about the ACA, something that negatively impacted more people than it's helped, in serious ways... but Trump throwing out some BS to pump his ego is somehow worse than people paying healthcare premiums on par with a brand new car payment or their small business going under?

Look, when he starts lying about policies and real problems that the Nation faces, I'll be with y'all. If the healthcare plan he puts through does the opposite of what he says it will do, I'll be just as critical of him as I have Pres Obama for the ACA.

If Dems were truly serious about bringing Trump down to size they'd read the Art of War. Say what you will about the guy, but he's shown he has an ability to use absurdity and the subsequent chaos to his advantage. It's how he got elected! Instead, ignore the clown when he says stuff like that. Let him pump his ego up in a room full of crickets. Don't give him the attention on such nonsense. Instead spend the time on things like his policies, things that actually have consequence.

Trying to make a big deal out of lying about the Electoral votes isn't going to change a single mind. 2 types of people voted for Trump 1) Those who jumped all aboard the Trump Train and are riding it down the rails at max speed. They aren't going to care because they are his fan boys.

The other are people like me. I don't expect him to be George Washington and the Cherry Tree, so I won't hold him to that standard. Second, I know darn well the guy has a massive ego and is a huge self promoter. I expect that he'll say things to puff himself up.

Busted!

Here's the rub. If he can't tell the truth about the simple, easily disputed stuff, then how am I to trust him to tell the truth with anything else?
If your child never told the truth about the little things would you trust them with the bigger stuff?

I don't trust trump. At all. He seemingly can't tell the truth.

When Obama referred to all 57 States, it was just an error, he misspoke.

Trump is a lying.



The final death throes of the Liberal/Progressive movement is really something to see.

If he'll lie about something like that, then why should I believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

And please don't act like this is the first time he's gotten caught lying...

Do you honestly think Obama thinks there's 57 states? Did it ever come up again? Did he ever insist there were 57? No.
trump on the other hand has continued to 'misspeak' over and over and over and over and over again. Despite being called out. Despite obvious contradictory facts being well known and/or easily accessed. He's not misspeaking, he's lying. Or he's completely delusional and off his rocker.

(correct sp)=hilarious

What's really hilarious but not really is, this Administration is whining over things they have control to change but continue to whine about Hillary and Obama instead of kicking the Russians out of our local sea's as they test our electronic counter measures and defenses.

When Fox News calls out Trump, you should listen

http://americannewsx.com/hot-off-the-press/shepard-smith-trump-lying/

I did not have one year under Obama that I lost money, either in the market or 401k. I did very well in his 8 years
I don't know what chart you were looking at or if you turned it sideways/upside down or something. But you specifically stated the last 5 years the market was flat.

The Dow on December 30, 2011 was 12,217.
The market at the end of the day on October 31, 2016 (one week before the presidential election) was 18,142.

If you didn't make money in that, it isn't Obama's fault

Don't waste your time. She's playing the victim again. Obama ruined her life the second he took the oath 8 years ago and along with The entire republican administration they're all still whining about that instead of working for US once again.

spelling nazi...gmafb..Trust me my spelling is fine, typing on a phone isn't. If we want to go down that road...have the russians done anything? remember Nobama calling ISIS the JV team...yeah...or how about Fast and Furious...yeah that was a great call to keep the country safe..or maybe the recommendation to release the lockerbie bomber..sounds like a great idea..Swore he wouldn't have lobbyist in his administration, then promptly had 40.In March 2012, NObama announced a new set of bailouts for speculators who had caused the housing bubble.


yeah he sounds like such a swell guy

Sounds alot like the liberals complaining about a guy who's been in office 28 days...like i said liberals are hilarious

I'm just going to leave this here


http://www.dailywire.com/news/7970/7-facts-show-obamas-economic-recovery-has-been-aaron-bandler

Just a little light reading for those that think Trump is all that and a bag of chips

https://theintellectualist.co/psychiatri...-warning-trump/

No No No ... thats more BS from the right .... u know the nazi, racist, fascists ....

Trump who may be the biggest a-hole ever ... won DESPITE THE FACTS that

- the economy is humming right along ... BEST EVER ...

Hell .. everyone I know is THRILLED ... everyone i know is making more money and working less hours that than they were 8 years ago ... its been GREAT ....

The biggest a-hole ever WON DESPITE the fact small business is creating jobs left and right in spite of all the goverment regulations and taxes and oBUMa care and increased minimum wages in many states ...

YUP .... the a-hole won DESPITE ALL THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH and the outlook ... it just shows just how stupid those conservatives are ....

It makes his victory even more amazing .... such a great economy and such a great economic outlook and the biggest jackass ever won ...

I don't disagree with your point.

But can you think of any reason as to why I should believe that the current exuberant efforts to hold Trump 'accountable' by the Dem Party, the media, and even some on this board has anything to do with taking the highroad?

Maybe you should learn to read simple charts. Liberals arent very bright.

Cry somemore. Your tears are delicious.

About Trump's incorrect comment regarding the electoral victory margin: that was an unfortunate moment in an otherwise great press conference. Don't let that overshadow how savage that presser was. Many of us are every bit as turned off by the media as he is. You have probably read about it on here.

Anyway, about the electoral victory comment: do you think it is possible that he wasn't lying, but he was just given incorrect information and didn't verify it?

That was what I was thinking....He gets mis-information from time to time, does that mean we should condemn him and call him a liar? He does tend to exaggerate from time to time, but that does not make him a liar. We all exaggerate.

That press conference was the biggest snowflake whiny nonsense I have ever witness from a POTUS.

So we're definitely not gonna agree on that.

As far as the electoral college bit, it would be insanely easy to just blow it off as an honest mistake.....if it was an isolated incident.

And that's the problem: it's not. How many times have we seen this guy and his sidekicks in the WH say incorrect information, then double down on the comments when the media tries to correct them, only to walk the comments back when he realizes that the public doesn't agree with his stance.

Once is a mistake. Multiple times in a week, every week, is a pattern. I don't under why it's like pulling teeth to expect a leader of our nation to verify information before YOLO tweeting or winging it during press conference.

It's simply unprofessional. If you kept giving incorrect information at your job you would be fired. So why keep giving him a pass? Why is it a bad thing to expect the president to not constantly say dumb ass comments every time he steps in front of a mic?

Politics

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's messy case that he inherited a mess
JOSH BOAK and CALVIN WOODWARD,Associated Press 17 hours ago .
Washington (AP) — President Donald Trump on Thursday made a messy case that he "inherited a mess" from his predecessor. Economic stats and territorial losses of Islamic State insurgents don't support his assertions about the problems handed to him on those fronts.

A look at some of his claims in a news conference Thursday and how they compare with the facts:

TRUMP: "To be honest I inherited a mess. It's a mess. At home and abroad, a mess."

THE FACTS: A mess is in the eye of the beholder. But by almost every economic measure, President Barack Obama inherited a far worse situation when he became president in 2009 than he left for Trump. He had to deal with the worst downturn since the Depression.

Unemployment was spiking, the stock market crashing, the auto industry failing and millions of Americans risked losing their homes to foreclosure when Obama took the oath of office. None of those statistics is as dire for Trump.

Unemployment is 4.8 percent, compared with a peak of 10 percent during Obama's first year as president. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was cratering until March 2009, only to rebound roughly 200 percent over the rest of Obama's term— gains that have continued under Trump on the promise of tax and regulatory cuts.

When Trump assumed office last month, a greater percentage of the country had health insurance, incomes were rising and the country was adding jobs.

The Trump administration has noted that a smaller proportion of the population is working or looking for jobs. But even this measure began to turn around toward the end of the Obama era.

Yet it's true that jobs at factories and coal mines have been disappearing for more than three decades, while many Americans with only a high school diploma have seen their incomes fall after adjusting for inflation. The home ownership rate has slipped even as the economy has improved, leaving many pockets of the country feeling left out of a recovery that technically began more than seven years ago.

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TRUMP: "ISIS has spread like cancer, another mess I inherited."

THE FACTS: The Islamic State group began to lose ground before Trump took office, not just in Iraq and Syria but also in Libya. The gradual military progress achieved in Iraq during Obama's final two years has pushed IS to the point of collapse in Mosul, its main Iraqi stronghold.

It remains a potent danger beyond its shrunken territory, encouraging adherents to stage acts of terrorism. The analogy with cancer is an echo of Obama's last defense secretary, Ash Carter, who repeatedly cast Obama's counter-IS campaign as an effort to reverse the extremists' "metastasis" beyond the "parent tumor" in Iraq and Syria.


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TRUMP: "I see stories of chaos. Chaos. Yet it is the exact opposite. This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine, despite the fact that I can't get my Cabinet approved.

THE FACTS: Did he just say a "fine-tuned machine"?

Trump's first month has been consumed by a series of missteps and firestorms, and produced far less significant legislation than Obama enacted during his first month.

Republican-led congressional committees will investigate the Trump team's relations with Russians before he took office and the flood of leaks that altogether forced out his national security adviser in record time. His pick for labor secretary withdrew because he didn't have enough Republican support.

By many measures, the administration is in near paralysis in its earliest days, leaving allies unsettled and many in Congress anxious about what Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., called the "constant disruption." To many Republicans — never mind Democrats — the "fine-tuned machine" seems in danger of its wheels coming off.

In his first month, Obama signed a $787 billion stimulus package into law, as well as a law expanding health care for children and the Lilly Ledbetter bill on equal pay for women. Trump has vigorously produced executive orders, which don't require congressional approval and typically have narrow effect. The one with far-reaching consequences — banning entry by refugees and by visitors from seven countries — has been blocked by courts.

Trump's biggest initiatives, such as tax cuts and a replacement for Obama's health care law, have not emerged. On Thursday he was signing into law a rollback of Obama-era regulations on mining near streams. Congress has sent him little else.

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TRUMP, bragging again about his Electoral College vote total: "We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before, so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan."

THE FACTS: Not even close. In the seven previous elections, the winner of five of those contests won a larger Electoral College majority than Trump. They were George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996; and Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012.

When a reporter pointed out that Trump was overstating his winning margin, the president said: "Well, I don't know, I was given that information." He then called it "a very substantial victory."

Trump actually ended up with 304 electoral votes because of the defection of two electors in December, but he had won enough states in November to get to 306.

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TRUMP, saying the appeals court that blocked his selective travel ban "has been overturned at a record number."

THE FACTS: Other appeals courts have seen their decisions overturned at a higher rate than the San Francisco-based 9th Circuit that froze his action on immigration.

In the most recent full term, the Supreme Court reversed 8 of the 11 cases from the 9th Circuit. But the Atlanta-based 11th Circuit went 0 for 3 — that is, the Supreme Court reversed all three cases it heard from that circuit. And over the past five years, five federal appeals courts were reversed at a higher rate than the 9th Circuit.

The 9th Circuit is by far the largest of the 13 federal courts of appeals. In raw numbers, more cases are heard and reversed from the 9th Circuit year in and year out. But as a percentage of cases the Supreme Court hears, the liberal-leaning circuit fares somewhat better, according to statistical compilations by Scotusblog.

Most cases decided by appeals courts aren't appealed to the Supreme Court, and the high court only accepts for review a small percentage of those that are.

But the very act of the Supreme Court's agreeing to hear a case means the odds are it will be overturned; the court reverses about two-thirds of the cases it hears

You're right-- we're not going to agree on that, LOL.

I admire a man who will stand up for himself, and his supporters, in the face of relentless and unfair criticism. I don't admire somebody who will just sit there and take it, with no resistance whatsoever. That is not an admirable character trait.

You're overstating the number of times they have put out incorrect information, but yes, it does happen from time to time. Arguably it has happened too many times. That Electoral comment does bother me; I genuinely do not believe it was a 'lie' as much as it was bad information, but it's hardly excusable.

- ctrl + T
- electoral victory margin [enter]
- *scan results*
- tab+enter [or click] Wiki link
- scroll down and verify

That takes like 15 seconds. The President shouldn't have to verify all this little data, he has more important things to take care of, but he should have some awesome people who take care of that kind of thing. I should take Clem's suggestion from back in the summer and figure out a way to get on the Trump team.

You are admiring a man who is blatantly lying to you.

We definitely have different standards.

When Obama took office, the economy completely tanked. (continuing what started under Bush) Businesses cut employment to the bone. Other businesses close. Employment shrunk to the point where there were few cuts left to make.

Then the economy slowly, very slowly started to recover and expand. However, the expansion was so slow that fewer jobs than expected were created on a regular basis. Employers added as few employees as they needed, more slowly than they might normally do. Also, with Obamacare, many smaller employers went with part time employees, so as not to tip the scales on the law, forcing them to raise their employee costs above what they could afford.

Part time employment exploded. Full time employment did not. The middle Class shrunk, and Middle Class wages and net worth dropped quite a bit.

The economic recovery was horrible. The other things on the link are things that many of us on this board had mentioned, but which were dismissed by many Obama supporters. (and they still are)

We need a Middle Class recovery, and that's not happening until we remove many of the cost pressures on employers.

What we definitely have are different views and interpretations. "All well."

See, that just doesn't work. The term is "Oh well".

you always turn into a grammar police when you have zero argument. all well.

Devil says that isn't a real position in the police force. find another profession.

I was just needling Swish because he likes to use the phrase "all well". I may start using it nonsarcastically though. It's a pretty cool saying.

It's costing a fortune to protect the Trump family

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/costing-fortune-protect-trump-family-062440454.html

Protecting the president isn't easy or cheap, and according to estimates from The Washington Post, the cost to protect President Donald Trump and his family is on track to supersede what it cost to protect former President Barack Obama and his family by hundreds of millions of dollars.

Judicial Watch, a conservative group that tracked the cost of travel expenses for Obama, estimated that $97 million was spent during his eight years in office.

However, based on the first four weeks of Trump's presidency, which included three trips to his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, Trump is well on his way to jump past that figure.

The Post rounded up a handful of estimates of the costs of protecting the Trump family incurred by the US departments of Defense and Homeland Security and local police agencies.

Here are a few:

Three trips to Mar-a-Lago since Trump's inauguration may have cost about $10 million, based on a government report from October that analyzed White House travel, The Post said. The expenses include the cost of US Coast Guard patrol boats on the shoreline.
Palm Beach County officials say they will request reimbursement of tens of thousands of dollars per day from the White House for their deputies who provided security and logistical support around the city.
Police officials estimate that it would cost New York $500,000 a day, or $183 million a year, to guard Trump Tower, where first lady Melania Trump and son Barron Trump live.
Secret Service and US embassy employees paid about $100,000 in hotel room bills during Eric Trump's trip to Uruguay, where he promoted a Trump-branded building.
If the Pentagon secures rental space in Trump Tower — needed for when the president returns to New York — it could cost $1.5 million per year, according to the building's website.
Secret Service paid $12,000 for tents, portable toilets, light towers, and golf carts during Trump's Super Bowl weekend trip to Mar-a-Lago.
Donald Trump Mar-a-Lago
(President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump, hidden at left, dine with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, third from left, and his wife, Akie Abe, right, at Mar-a-Lago on February 10.AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

“This is an expensive way to conduct business, and the president should recognize that,” said Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. “The unique thing about President Trump is that he knows what it costs to run a plane,” Fitton said about Trump's travel to Mar-a-Lago in Florida. He suggested Camp David may be the better choice, since Trump can easily get there by helicopter.

Funding the Trump family's complex travel and protection needs may not be the only issue, The Post reported.


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“There was an anticipation of how stressful it was going to be on the agency," said Jonathan Wackrow, a 14-year Secret Service employee who served during Obama's administration. "But the harsh reality is that the stress is just overwhelming." According to Wackrow, agents are “at severe risk of burnout."

The Secret Service, however, maintains that it is ready, willing, and able to protect Trump. "Every administration presents unique challenges to which the Secret Service has effectively adapted,” an agency statement cited by The Post read.

"Regardless of location . . . the Secret Service is confident in our security plan."

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well, you guys were complaining about the cost with the Obama's, so i expect equal disappointing post with regards to Trump now, yes?

lol, who am i kidding, probably not.

Tears on you pillow...

Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Revealing Obama 2013 Africa Trip and Honolulu Vacation Cost Taxpayers $15,885,585.30 for Flight Expenses Alone.

Judicial Watch: Obama Travel Expenses Cost Taxpayers Almost $97M, according to documents the Secret Service and the Air Force provided to Judicial Watch.

Some of the expenditures in the $96,938,882.51 total:

-April 22, 2015: trip to Florida Everglades to give a speech about global warming: $1,012, 367.76.
-October 2015: fundraising trip to San Diego: $2,181,655.99.
-February 2016: Michelle Obama and daughters' ski trip to Aspen, Colorado: $222,875.58. Secret Service cost for that trip: $165,806.78.
-March 2016: trip to Cuba and Argentina: $7,146,015.18.
-June 2016: Michelle Obama and daughters' trip Morocco, Spain, and Liberia: $450,026.40.
-July 2016: for Hillary Clinton to accompany Obama on North Carolina campaign trip: $360,236.
-August 2016: Vacation to Martha's Vineyard: $450,295 in flight expenses.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Obama-travel-taxpayers/2017/01/04/id/766709/