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word on the street is they want to see if Cardale can take over.


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word on the street is they want to see if Cardale can take over.


Good. Anything to get Taylor on the free agent market.

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The Tyrod Taylor deadline is closing in. Here's my guess: Bills let someone else pay up for the QB and roll with a low-cost veteran.


https://twitter.com/TyDunne/status/832669037544955904


I would agree that this will happen. And didn't Whaley draft Cardale Jones? Now that Ryan is gone and there is a new coach, I wouldn't be surprised if he get the go-ahead to start. Whaley already seems like he is on the hot seat....might as well live and die with Cardale at this point. You drafted him.

If I'm Sean McDermott, I let it play out that way. If Cardale fails, you can say it had nothing to do with you. He wasn't your guy. Sean might get even more time as the new QB is identified and committed to.


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The Tyrod Taylor deadline is closing in. Here's my guess: Bills let someone else pay up for the QB and roll with a low-cost veteran.


https://twitter.com/TyDunne/status/832669037544955904


I would agree that this will happen. And didn't Whaley draft Cardale Jones? Now that Ryan is gone and there is a new coach, I wouldn't be surprised if he get the go-ahead to start. Whaley already seems like he is on the hot seat....might as well live and die with Cardale at this point?


Yes. He also drafted E.J. Manuel!

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The Tyrod Taylor deadline is closing in. Here's my guess: Bills let someone else pay up for the QB and roll with a low-cost veteran.


https://twitter.com/TyDunne/status/832669037544955904


I would agree that this will happen. And didn't Whaley draft Cardale Jones? Now that Ryan is gone and there is a new coach, I wouldn't be surprised if he get the go-ahead to start. Whaley already seems like he is on the hot seat....might as well live and die with Cardale at this point?


Yes. He also drafted E.J. Manuel!


Crap. I totally forgot about him. Yeah, I guess he's higher on the pecking order in Both aren't his guy.


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The Tyrod Taylor deadline is closing in. Here's my guess: Bills let someone else pay up for the QB and roll with a low-cost veteran.


https://twitter.com/TyDunne/status/832669037544955904


I would agree that this will happen. And didn't Whaley draft Cardale Jones? Now that Ryan is gone and there is a new coach, I wouldn't be surprised if he get the go-ahead to start. Whaley already seems like he is on the hot seat....might as well live and die with Cardale at this point?


Yes. He also drafted E.J. Manuel!


Crap. I totally forgot about him. Yeah, I guess he's higher on the pecking order in Both aren't his guy.


just keeping them made them his guy...


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Not sure why anyone would want T. Taylor here?

Secondly, if memory serves correct, Rex was instructed to play EJ Manuel, not Cardale Jones at the end of the year. I was never a fan of EJ, even though some guys on the board loved him when he came out.

I don't like Taylor as a qb, but he is better than EJ.

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I agree, TT seems a lot like RG3. Don't think Hue gets it that this is not a little guys division.

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I agree, TT seems a lot like RG3. Don't think Hue gets it that this is not a little guys division.




He's been in the division a while, heading up from Cincy.


Plus, our division is no better or more special that any other.


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Plus, our division is no better or more special that any other.


I'm glad to see someone else agrees with me. The AFC North is not the best division in football


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I agree, TT seems a lot like RG3. Don't think Hue gets it that this is not a little guys division.


The Bengals have made the playoffs five out of the six years Andy Dalton has been in the league (and their starting quarterback). Andy Dalton is 6'2". Tyrod Taylor is 6'1". That one inch doesn't make much of a difference.

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I agree, TT seems a lot like RG3.


In what way? He's black and fast?

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I agree, TT seems a lot like RG3.


In what way? He's black and fast?




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I agree, TT seems a lot like RG3. Don't think Hue gets it that this is not a little guys division.


I'm confused...this is sort of stating we are in hot pursuit of TT.

Just cause Hue compliments a player which seems what he does to any player in the NFL.

I will be shocked if TT becomes Hue's guy!

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Why are people opposed to a guy who put up top ten QBR's and back to back seasons as a starter? A guy with an arm and good mobility.

And a guy who stays healthy?


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We swung and missed on RG3... no big deal. It was a low risk shot. If we can sign Taylor to a similar deal, I would not be opposed to that at all.

Assuming, of course, that means the end of RG3. I don't really like having both on the roster. We should have Cody and another young guy on the roster.


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I don't think this is the year we answer the 'QB question'. If they go that route, with Lee as the QB coach, bringing in Taylor wouldn't be a bad way to fill the position without having to answer the question. He would allow Kessler and any other drafted QB to develop. I'm coming more to believe Garoppolo isn't leaving NE, nor Cousins Was. Romo wants another chance to the big dance before he retires and he won't get that here. I don't want Kaep.


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I know a lot don't care for TT. I'm a proponent. I don't veiw him as the future but I do think he is better than anything we've had outside of DA's anomaly. Depending on the team around him I think he's shown he can range somewhere from the 10 to 20 secondary range of qbs. The positives of going his route are plentiful. It saves us from this classes top 3. It solidifies the position for the time being while we strengthen the roster to support the qb of our choosing. While I understand RG has attributed to people not liking the idea of this move I don't think that's a fair point.

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I think that if we sign Taylor, we are only prolonging the inevitable. We will still need to get a qb as I don't think he will be the long-term answer.

I would much rather we go all-in on Jimmy G and hopefully solve the qb dilemma once and for all.

I do understand there is a risk w/Jimmy G, but I also believe he is the ONE guy who has the potential to be a franchise qb.

I am not saying I am correct........I'm just sayin'......

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I know a lot don't care for TT. I'm a proponent. I don't veiw him as the future but I do think he is better than anything we've had outside of DA's anomaly. Depending on the team around him I think he's shown he can range somewhere from the 10 to 20 secondary range of qbs. The positives of going his route are plentiful. It saves us from this classes top 3. It solidifies the position for the time being while we strengthen the roster to support the qb of our choosing. While I understand RG has attributed to people not liking the idea of this move I don't think that's a fair point.
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I think that if we sign Taylor, we are only prolonging the inevitable. We will still need to get a qb as I don't think he will be the long-term answer.

I would much rather we go all-in on Jimmy G and hopefully solve the qb dilemma once and for all.

I do understand there is a risk w/Jimmy G, but I also believe he is the ONE guy who has the potential to be a franchise qb.

I am not saying I am correct........I'm just sayin'......


I'm pretty much in the same boat. Though from various posts I do think I value TT higher than you personally but even I don't want a 6 year deal or anything crazy like that. 3 would be ideal and I've stated multiple times I like mahomes in unison with him.

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I don't mind Taylor.

I think for drafted QB's next year with guys like Rosen, Jackson, Darnold, and Browning is the year to draft a QB. I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade down out of 12 to pick up another 1st rounder next year so we have plenty of ammo to make our move on a QB.

Hard to say where we pick next year. I actually think we can be pretty good this year. I doubt we get the first pick, we might be somewhere around 10, give or take a few slots. Still not so low we couldn't move up to get our guy.


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I'm just tired of the 2nd, 3rd tier QBs. We've been doing that ever since Couch. Holcomb, DA, Hoyer, Garcia and those have been the better ones. I put TT in that category. JUST SAY NO TO BANDAIDS AT QB!

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I'm just tired of the 2nd, 3rd tier QBs. We've been doing that ever since Couch. Holcomb, DA, Hoyer, Garcia and those have been the better ones. I put TT in that category. JUST SAY NO TO BANDAIDS AT QB!

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Oh I agree, but we can only do what we can do. There is no clear cut Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, etc this year.


It's not like it's an easy decision. Sometimes you gotta play the hand your dealt. Tyrod Taylor (who might not be available) or Mike Glennon or someone like Tony Romo but be our only option.

But who knows, maybe Cody Kessler will come up like a man on fire weighing an extra 15 pounds of pure arm strength, with a concussion proof helmet, and he'll just set the world on fire

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There is Jimmy G, though!

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There is Jimmy G, though!


Yes there is, but we aren't even sure how available he actually is.

I'd love to have him, but man, giving up the number 1 pick is a big push. I really want Myles Garrett. And what if that's just not even enough?


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I don't know what it would take to get him, but I don't believe it would take the first overall pick. I know Diam has said that, but I really haven't heard any reports about that being the asking price.

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I don't know what it would take to get him, but I don't believe it would take the first overall pick. I know Diam has said that, but I really haven't heard any reports about that being the asking price.


That's exactly it. We don't know. I'm all for giving up the 12 at this point. I really was hoping we didn't need to do that (as I wanna use the 12 on someone in the secondary), but if that's what it takes. I'm all for it.


I don't have much faith in Watson or Kaiser. My view of Watson this year was that he wasn't that impressive. He plays well in big games, but we need someone to get us to the big game, lol


And Trubisky has played 13 games. That's not much of a sample size at all




I do believe Jimmy G is available. Everyone is available. Even Aaron Rogers. But at what price......

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I'm thinking #33 and our 2nd round pick next year will be a steal for BB. Maybe we can do better (for us meaning less) but I think at the end that is what we can do. 49ers and Bears I don't think will give up #2 or #3 so that means our 33 is better then their 34 n 36.

jmho we might have to sweeten it with a 3rd rounder next year or as I said 2nd rounder which we have two of.



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I'm thinking #33 and our 2nd round pick next year will be a steal for BB. Maybe we can do better (for us meaning less) but I think at the end that is what we can do. 49ers and Bears I don't think will give up #2 or #3 so that means our 33 is better then their 34 n 36.

jmho we might have to sweeten it with a 3rd rounder next year or as I said 2nd rounder which we have two of.



I dunno man. Like it or not, Tom Brady is 39. BB can keep JG for two more years if he chooses to franchise him.


I'm just starting to get that gloomy feeling that getting my hopes up for JG is just not worth it. Just a tease. He's about as on the market as my dog. And I love my puppy

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Rapoport was discussing possible landing spots for Cowboys QB Tony Romo. He mentioned the Bills last in his appearance, but added, "From my understanding, it is probably a better chance they keep Tyrod now than actually cutting him."

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Rapoport was discussing possible landing spots for Cowboys QB Tony Romo. He mentioned the Bills last in his appearance, but added, "From my understanding, it is probably a better chance they keep Tyrod now than actually cutting him."


That's what I'm beginning to think too.


Pickings are slim, and the Bills aren't going to create some QB problem for themselves without having any real solution.

I remember Joe Banner tweeting that he thought that the contract for Tyrod Taylor really wasn't that bad. There's a big bonus coming up but maybe it gets better down the road?


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Hey the facts are out there.

This is his last year on the contract.
Brady won another SB and was considered in his best shape.he didn't lose a step... rofl

Brady is looking to stay another 4-5 years. The Pats will keep playing him as long as he is 80% of his past.

Yes the Pats can Franchise him he would be the most expensive back up in the history of the game.

What happens the following season when Brady is still playing like the starter...They going to Franchise him again with a 20% hike as a backup???
You think he will sign with the Pats after they Franchise his 2 years?

I think if that is out there its a leak to make his value rise.

I'm not sold on him 100% I'm leaving it up to Hue. I of course do not wish to give up a 1st rounder.

Cap space they are not in trouble but he would eat up 1/3 of the available cap.

Also how would Brady feel and the PATS look if they pay the backup 6 mil more than Brady???
??? is what do they do in 2020??? extend Brady. That is the JG year. He won't be there.

jmho...Unless the Pats are willing to do a Montana/Young thing...but Brady is still on the top of his game and won a SB. And I don't think JG is Young good.


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Last offseason there was speculation that the Bills wanted to draft a QB to replace Tyrod and I didn't believe it then.

The current rumors/speculation that the Bills would let Tyrod walk didn't make sense to me this offseason.

It does seem that Tyrod doesn't have firm support from somewhere within their management and it seems to get out to the media.

I remember their current OC Rick Dennison was part of the Denver staff that had interest in bringing Tyrod to Denver so he could be part of the shift in perception that the Bills will keep Tyrod.

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Rex Ryan fired: timing stemmed from dispute over Tyrod Taylor


Rex could have coached in Week 17 but wouldn’t coach if Tyrod Taylor wasn’t going to be his quarterback.
by Matt Warren Jan 3, 2017, 3:15pm EST

We have more insight into the firing of Rex Ryan and the strange timing of the move. Ryan was fired a day after holding a press conference with local media in anticipation of the season finale and now we know why.

“According to multiple people with knowledge of the conversation, Ryan, Pegula and Whaley had had their standard weekly conversation last Tuesday,” wrote Jenny Vrentas. “That’s when Ryan learned of the organization’s decision to bench Taylor, the starting quarterback the past two seasons.”

Vrentas has a media-coach relationship with Ryan and has profiled him twice since he became Bills head coach, so this account probably came from Rex himself or someone near him. She notes Tyrod Taylor was the main reason for the odd timing of the split between the Bills and Rex.

“The Bills were already eliminated from playoff contention and there would have been a financial risk to playing Taylor. His $27.5 million salary for 2017 is guaranteed for injury only, so if he suffered a significant one in the season finale, the Bills would have been on the hook for money they may not want to pay. They also wanted to see the other quarterbacks on the roster, EJ Manuel and Cardale Jones, get some game action.”

Rex didn’t take kindly to that move being dictated to him, especially with reports swirling about his impending firing, Vrentas continued:

“Both were obvious signs that the Bills were not committed to Taylor—or to Ryan, who had handpicked Taylor to be his quarterback. So Ryan, who for a few weeks had been hearing reports of his impending firing, asked to speak to Pegula one-on-one. Ryan had made a promise to Taylor, telling him that he’d be the Bills starting quarterback as long as Ryan was the coach. Ryan didn’t want to break his word, and he was worried how the team would respond. If you are already planning on firing me next Monday, Ryan told Pegula, then you might as well fire me now.”

And so he did. Pegula fired Rex without talking about it with Whaley because he was put on the spot. Still, if Whaley and Pegula were leaning that way already, it shouldn’t have surprised the Bills general manager.

There is something to be said for Ryan’s loyalty to Taylor in this situation. At least now we have an answer as to the timing.

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So we are going into next year with Hue as Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach.

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Do you think Tyrod Taylor is a good NFL QB?

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So we are going into next year with Hue as Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach.

Ed,

Do you think Tyrod Taylor is a good NFL QB?
Yes.

Why do you ask?

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So we are going into next year with Hue as Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach.

Ed,

Do you think Tyrod Taylor is a good NFL QB?
Yes.

Why do you ask?


Ed also thinks RG3 is a good NFL QB ...




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