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I would ask you to please not use the Lord's name in vain. Please. There are other ways to express the same sentiment without doing so. Thanks.

Sam Hinkie is coming out this season looking golden. His plan is basically work exactly as he planned out. Every crappy team should be trying to hire him as their GM.

It's kind of what the Browns FO is trying to do. Bottom-out and load up on picks and cap space. The fans hate it, but it's better than wallowing in mediocrity for years.

Sam Hinkie is coming out this season looking golden. His plan is basically work exactly as he planned out. Every crappy team should be trying to hire him as their GM.

If they were overstocked on Gs or Swing guys it'd be a completely different story.

Play small, or trade one for a big.

Too many bigs? Eh. There's no return on value there. And you can't play "big" in the NBA these days.

The problem with the "plan" is you have to be lucky enough to have a Superstar come out when you're picking high.

Hell they only got Nerlens because Chris Grant is an idiot.

Asked why he didn't wait until closer to Thursday's trade deadline to make a move, he said, "Most likely we would get less, because I had a better deal two days ago."

They'll never reach a Finals without some serious help. The NBA isn't a big man league anymore. Quite frankly, they'll be an afterthought once the novelty wears off.

Until the playoff and the game slows down and controlling the paint becomes more important. Great trade for the Pelicans

looks like the cavs just wasted the exceptions

Nothing. You just sound really mad for someone who isn't a 6ers fan. Also it's literally been the strategy for most NBA teams...

Lebron came back here because he saw what we had built

No disrespect intended, but I don't buy that one. Not for a minute.

I think LeBron came back here to rectify a wrong and cement his legacy as one of--if not thee--greatest players in the history of the NBA.

How many years has it been since Philly started the "Trust the Process" BS?

Oh yay, were talking about building the team again. Which allows me to do one of my favorite things.

Go back and look at who we could of had. Instead of what we got. Using extreme hyperbole.

Kylie Irving
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond

That woulda been a fun team.

Lebron left 7 years ago because the team Cleveland had wouldn't be able to win a title. The team we had three years ago was one of the reasons as to why he came back. Yes, he wanted to right the wrong he made, but if Kyrie doesn't sign that extension and we don't get the #1 pick to trade for Kevin, no way he comes home. Even as good as Lebron is, he can't win a title with crap around him.

Plus, had the Heat beat the Spurs the previous Finals, he stays in Miami another year or more so he can attempt to win 4 in a row, something Jordan never did.

NBA
LeBron: I'm coming back to Cleveland


Friday July 11th, 2014

Before anyone ever cared where I would play basketball, I was a kid from Northeast Ohio. It’s where I walked. It’s where I ran. It’s where I cried. It’s where I bled. It holds a special place in my heart. People there have seen me grow up. I sometimes feel like I’m their son. Their passion can be overwhelming. But it drives me. I want to give them hope when I can. I want to inspire them when I can. My relationship with Northeast Ohio is bigger than basketball. I didn’t realize that four years ago. I do now.

Remember when I was sitting up there at the Boys & Girls Club in 2010? I was thinking, This is really tough. I could feel it. I was leaving something I had spent a long time creating. If I had to do it all over again, I’d obviously do things differently, but I’d still have left. Miami, for me, has been almost like college for other kids. These past four years helped raise me into who I am. I became a better player and a better man. I learned from a franchise that had been where I wanted to go. I will always think of Miami as my second home. Without the experiences I had there, I wouldn’t be able to do what I’m doing today.

I went to Miami because of D-Wade and CB. We made sacrifices to keep UD. I loved becoming a big bro to Rio. I believed we could do something magical if we came together. And that’s exactly what we did! The hardest thing to leave is what I built with those guys. I’ve talked to some of them and will talk to others. Nothing will ever change what we accomplished. We are brothers for life. I also want to thank Micky Arison and Pat Riley for giving me an amazing four years.


I’m doing this essay because I want an opportunity to explain myself uninterrupted. I don’t want anyone thinking: He and Erik Spoelstra didn’t get along. … He and Riles didn’t get along. … The Heat couldn’t put the right team together. That’s absolutely not true.

I’m not having a press conference or a party. After this, it’s time to get to work.

When I left Cleveland, I was on a mission. I was seeking championships, and we won two. But Miami already knew that feeling. Our city hasn’t had that feeling in a long, long, long time. My goal is still to win as many titles as possible, no question. But what’s most important for me is bringing one trophy back to Northeast Ohio.

I always believed that I’d return to Cleveland and finish my career there. I just didn’t know when. After the season, free agency wasn’t even a thought. But I have two boys and my wife, Savannah, is pregnant with a girl. I started thinking about what it would be like to raise my family in my hometown. I looked at other teams, but I wasn’t going to leave Miami for anywhere except Cleveland. The more time passed, the more it felt right. This is what makes me happy.

To make the move I needed the support of my wife and my mom, who can be very tough. The letter from Dan Gilbert, the booing of the Cleveland fans, the jerseys being burned -- seeing all that was hard for them. My emotions were more mixed. It was easy to say, “OK, I don’t want to deal with these people ever again.” But then you think about the other side. What if I were a kid who looked up to an athlete, and that athlete made me want to do better in my own life, and then he left? How would I react? I’ve met with Dan, face-to-face, man-to-man. We’ve talked it out. Everybody makes mistakes. I’ve made mistakes as well. Who am I to hold a grudge?

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/11/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers

Standings[edit]
Central Division v t e W L PCT GB Home Road Div GP
y-Indiana Pacers 49 32 .605 16.5 30–11 19–21 13–3 81
x-Chicago Bulls 45 37 .549 21.0 24–17 21–20 9–7 82
x-Milwaukee Bucks 38 44 .463 28.0 21–20 17–24 7–9 82
Detroit Pistons 29 53 .354 37.0 18–23 11–30 8–8 82
Cleveland Cavaliers 24 58 .293 42.0 14–27 10–31 3–13 82

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Cleveland_Cavaliers_season

I think we're all a bit right here. Lebron wanted to right the wrong of leaving Cleveland, but no way he would attempt to come back without Kyrie's extension, have the Wiggins trade chip and the "tradeable" assets we had at the time (didn't we trade Waiters like 10 games into the season?).